FBI found hundreds of classified files on Petraeus biographer Broadwell’s computer

cawacko said:
Slap on the wrist? He lost his job. He's probably not allowed to work for the government again (though I don't know that for a fact). It's not like this is the first time a politician has done something criminal and then gone on to work in the private sector. If Hillary quits this campaign and is basically blackballed from getting a private sector job then I would agree there's a double standard.

At the end of the day when you are running for President you will held to a higher standard than everyone else. You can argue whether that's a good thing or not but that's reality.
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I bet Petraeus is crying all the way to the bank.

Last week, retired four-star Army General David Petraeus announced he was joining the New York-based investment firm KKR & Co. to run the firm’s new Global Institute, a group dedicated to studying how government policies impact investments...

CREW found that “70 percent (or 76) of the 108 three-and-four star generals and admirals who retired between 2009 and 2011 took jobs with defense contractors or consultants. In at least a few cases, the retirees have continued to advise the Department of Defense while on the payroll of defense contractors, suggesting the Pentagon may not always be receiving unbiased counsel.”

Sloan said she is not opposed to retired military brass making money based on their expertise. They all made less as generals or admirals than their skills would have drawn in the private sector and are entitled to cash in after their military service.

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Artic...tirees-From-4-star-General-to-7-Figure-Income
 
tsuke said:
putting it on your own private server guarded by your lawyers and IT team is actually a different level of wrong than sharing it with your mistress

Funny that dems call trump a facist dictator while their candidate did things to evade all accountability in her post.
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Do you understand that she's still being investigated and can still be prosecuted?
 
christiefan915 said:
Have you questioned the CIA's role in Benghazi? While it was being headed by Petraeus?
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Rand Paul did . he basically got stoned walled, because much of it is black ops.

I've put my efforts into the Libya war -a grotesque assassination of our allie on the war on terror ( qadaffi).
Hillary's Emails have been very helpful in showing how pathetic a move that was.
 
christiefan915 said:
I bet Petraeus is crying all the way to the bank.

Last week, retired four-star Army General David Petraeus announced he was joining the New York-based investment firm KKR & Co. to run the firm’s new Global Institute, a group dedicated to studying how government policies impact investments...

CREW found that “70 percent (or 76) of the 108 three-and-four star generals and admirals who retired between 2009 and 2011 took jobs with defense contractors or consultants. In at least a few cases, the retirees have continued to advise the Department of Defense while on the payroll of defense contractors, suggesting the Pentagon may not always be receiving unbiased counsel.”

Sloan said she is not opposed to retired military brass making money based on their expertise. They all made less as generals or admirals than their skills would have drawn in the private sector and are entitled to cash in after their military service.

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Artic...tirees-From-4-star-General-to-7-Figure-Income
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My best friend is a managing director at Blackstone and he has met with Petraeus a half dozen times in the last six months for a deal they are putting together with KKR. It's a huge investment and they will all get paid if it goes through.

But you're arguing Hillary and he should be held to the same standard. He lost his job she hasn't. What would you like him to do so that it's made fair to Hillary?
 
christiefan915 said:
Do you understand that she's still being investigated and can still be prosecuted?
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do you understand that she already admitted to all that is needed to show she set up a system to evade all responsibility (the setting up server part)

the classified stuff is just extra fluff and not important.
 
cawacko said:
My best friend is a managing director at Blackstone and he has met with Petraeus a half dozen times in the last six months for a deal they are putting together with KKR. It's a huge investment and they will all get paid if it goes through.

But you're arguing Hillary and he should be held to the same standard. He lost his job she hasn't. What would you like him to do so that it's made fair to Hillary?
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Although I think that Clinton is guilty, it has to said that Patraeus letting his floozy, who just so happened to be a journalist, keep classified documents on her own PC is pretty fucking dodgy. Again I can't help thinking that somebody lower down in the food chain would have been serving time for that.
 
Milagro said:
Although I think that Clinton is guilty, it has to said that Patraeus letting his floozy, who just so happened to be a journalist, keep classified documents on her own PC is pretty fucking dodgy. Again I can't help thinking that somebody lower down in the food chain would have been serving time for that.
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Fair enough if that's the case. I'm not hear to defend Patraeus's actions I'm just trying to understand what he needs to do to make it fair to Hillary.
 
we do know Syria was full of Libyan weapons; qadaffi had weapons caches allover the place including buried in the desert.
It's a safe bet Stevens was negotiating the buying of them under the guise of "cleaning up" the weapons- the official story.
He regularly met with local warlords/militias -seen coming and going -and Stevens was man about town-
regularly seen jogging around Bengazi

REPORT: The US Is Openly Sending Heavy Weapons From Libya To Syrian Rebels
http://www.businessinsider.com/obam...ending-heavy-weapons-to-syrian-rebels-2012-12

The Obama administration has decided to launch a covert operation to send heavy weapons to Syrian rebels, Christina Lamb of The Sunday Times of London reports.

Diplomatic sources told the Sunday Times that the U.S. "bought weapons from the stockpiles of Libya's former dictator Muammar Gaddafi."

The heavy arms include mortars, rocket propelled grenades, anti-tank missiles and the controversial anti-aircraft heat-seeking SA-7 missiles, which are integral to countering Bashar Al-Assad's bombing campaign.

Many have suspected that the US was already involved in sending heavy arms.

The administration has said that the previously hidden CIA operation in Benghazi involved finding, repurchasing and destroying heavy weaponry looted from Libyan government arsenals, but in October we reported evidence indicating that U.S. agents — particularly murdered ambassador Chris Stevens — were at least aware of heavy weapons moving from Libya to jihadist Syrian rebels.

There have been several possible SA-7 spottings in Syria dating as far back as early summer 2012, and there are indications that at least some of Gaddafi's 20,000 portable heat-seeking missiles were shipped before now....
 
cawacko said:
My best friend is a managing director at Blackstone and he has met with Petraeus a half dozen times in the last six months for a deal they are putting together with KKR. It's a huge investment and they will all get paid if it goes through.

But you're arguing Hillary and he should be held to the same standard. He lost his job she hasn't. What would you like him to do so that it's made fair to Hillary?
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I don't understand how I can make this more clear. First, Hillary doesn't have a government job to lose. Second, Hillary hasn't been accused and found guilty of any crime.

My argument revolves around the point that there were no congressional investigations and little taxpayer money spent investigating Petraeus for leaking classified info to his mistress, and very little criticism of the CIA's involvement in Benghazi. Also there weren't years of criticism either. What classified info did Petraeus leak to Broadwell and how does it measure up to the classified info in Hillary's emails?

I want people stop calling for Hillary to step down before the investigation is completed and any charges filed. I know that's not going to happen, though.
 
tsuke said:
do you understand that she already admitted to all that is needed to show she set up a system to evade all responsibility (the setting up server part)

the classified stuff is just extra fluff and not important.
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She admitted setting up a private server. She is under investigation for that whole debacle. There hasn't been any resolution yet. Why is that so hard for you Trump hacks to understand?
 
cawacko said:
Fair enough if that's the case. I'm not hear to defend Patraeus's actions I'm just trying to understand what he needs to do to make it fair to Hillary.
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I already said he can't do anything, it's the people who gave him a slap on the wrist who can make it fair. I'm criticizing the people (congressmen, authorities, the public) who are holding Hillary to a higher standard than they held Petraeus.
 
christiefan915 said:
I don't understand how I can make this more clear. First, Hillary doesn't have a government job to lose. Second, Hillary hasn't been accused and found guilty of any crime.

My argument revolves around the point that there were no congressional investigations and little taxpayer money spent investigating Petraeus for leaking classified info to his mistress, and very little criticism of the CIA's involvement in Benghazi. Also there weren't years of criticism either. What classified info did Petraeus leak to Broadwell and how does it measure up to the classified info in Hillary's emails?

I want people stop calling for Hillary to step down before the investigation is completed and any charges filed. I know that's not going to happen, though.
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Typically if a government employee is under investigation they are suspended whilst the investigation goes ahead. So what would happen if Clinton became President would she be immune from prosecution?
 
Milagro said:
Typically if a government employee is under investigation they are suspended whilst the investigation goes ahead. So what would happen if Clinton became President would she be immune from prosecution?
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I'm guessing no but she might get the Nixon treatment, i.e. step down and let the VP take over.
 
christiefan915 said:
I already said he can't do anything, it's the people who gave him a slap on the wrist who can make it fair. I'm criticizing the people (congressmen, authorities, the public) who are holding Hillary to a higher standard than they held Petraeus.
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he copped a plea.hence the relatively light sentence
 
christiefan915 said:
I don't understand how I can make this more clear. First, Hillary doesn't have a government job to lose. Second, Hillary hasn't been accused and found guilty of any crime.

My argument revolves around the point that there were no congressional investigations and little taxpayer money spent investigating Petraeus for leaking classified info to his mistress, and very little criticism of the CIA's involvement in Benghazi. Also there weren't years of criticism either. What classified info did Petraeus leak to Broadwell and how does it measure up to the classified info in Hillary's emails?

I want people stop calling for Hillary to step down before the investigation is completed and any charges filed. I know that's not going to happen, though.
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Of course it's not going to happen. She's running for President. If you're being investigated by the FBI people aren't going to let that go.

""On April 23, 2015, Petraeus pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of mishandling classified materials. He was given a two-year probationary period and a fine of $100,000""

I copied the above from Wikipedia. I seriously doubt Hillary and her team are going to want to get into a debate about how her actions compared to Petraeus considering his outcome. (that obviously doesn't mean we can't do it here)

I'm just as partisan as the person so I no different or better than anybody else but this is a classic partisan case where you have no problem posting tons of negative things about Trump but get very defensive when it comes to Hillary. Again, all of us who engage in partisan politics do this myself included.
 
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