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Think so?

Is Trump anti-big donor?

Is Trump a "man of the people"?

Is Trump a longtime crony of Wall Streeters like Jeffrey Epstein?
no. but Trump isn't barfed up from the establishment either.
and Trump still has time to paint himself the populist.. Is he anti-big donor? not goingtinto the general, but it depends on how he paints it.

In other words....He's not going to get traditional progress Democrats that naturally go to Bernie as Progressive.
But he is a real alterantive to more of the same.

Trumps problems are his own negatives - and I think one thing we allagreeon it's going to be a very negative campaign.

So we'll see.
 
could be. that's all well and good traditional politics, and it worked in '08..but there is a real desire for more then just a Democrat this time.
They want revolutionary politics. No more oligarchy, no more $30,000/plate dinners like Clooney ..we're done serving the establishment
because the establishment serves only the rich.

Clinton is pure establishment. She's a poster child for DC politics.. so there is the divide.


Yes there is a larger than usual group that wants revolutionary politics, I am one of them. But Crazy Don is simply not the revolution we want or need, so I am out. I want Revolutionary, but only in a good way, not by trusting an arrogant tall tyrant with a short mans complex regardless of his height. Its clear to me that Crazy Don suffers from an inferiority complex that he is way over compensating for.

Anyway, a lot of Sanders supporters who want a Revolution are smart enough to see that they don't want the revolution Crazy Don would bring. Better to wait four years and find a better option, or force Clinton into promoting some revolutionary ideas using Sanders influence.
 
no. but Trump isn't barfed up from the establishment either.

It's hard to imagine anyone who embodies the establishment more.

Hasn't he been a fixture of political fundraising for decades?

Are you telling me he gave all those donations without expecting - and getting - a quid pro quo?
 
When someone like Crazy Don has to make fun of a handicapped reporter to bump up his own ego, he is a dangerous person to give power to.
 
I do indeed.
It's not lost on me they are both capable of destroying swamp politics of DC, where everything gets mired down in Potomac river quicksand..
Clinton is unacceptable for that and other reasons.

And I'm much more a centrist then other Bernie supporters..but..I need to see more from him besides his ego.
I need to see him settle on some policies, and most of all need to see he has the temperament - which upto now is severely lacking.

Because there is always a 3rd party for us Bernie Bros to go to.
You are an absolute idiot if you switch to Trump, I'm sorry there is no other word to describe people voting for Trump.

They are idiots
 
You are an absolute idiot if you switch to Trump, I'm sorry there is no other word to describe people voting for Trump.
They are idiots

You think Anatta is "switching" to Trump? How can he switch if he was a Trumpkin all along? :dunno:
 
I doubt the candidates will say anything
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I have been trolling FB, and there are a LOT of Bernie supporters who won't support Hilary -I mean a lot.
But it's early,and Clinton is shape-shifting left.

The thing is though it's not Clinton's policies that need shaping -it's Clinton herself and she can't not be a corporatist warmonger.
so we'll see. Bernie supporter are much more idealistic when it comes to getting rid of big money etc
All the things Clinton embodies.

uhm if this happened to us trump supporters trump would be shouting it from the rooftops. This is similar to what happened in Colorado and you saw what the backlash for that was.
 
no. but Trump isn't barfed up from the establishment either.
and Trump still has time to paint himself the populist.. Is he anti-big donor? not goingtinto the general, but it depends on how he paints it.

In other words....He's not going to get traditional progress Democrats that naturally go to Bernie as Progressive.
But he is a real alterantive to more of the same.

Trumps problems are his own negatives - and I think one thing we allagreeon it's going to be a very negative campaign.

So we'll see.

Painted or natural, a populist is a populist is a clown. Also, a candidate shouldn't be faking their ideological credentials.
 
Many of these Bernie supporters will switch to Trump once Hillary gets the nomination. I will predict their numbers will be significant because Bernie's supporters agree with the Trumpsters on trade and that the system is rigged.

Yes, Philly Cheesesteak doesn't care where he gets his nutjobs from, as long as they are clearly deranged. That's what makes him such an effective traitor.
 
I do indeed.
It's not lost on me they are both capable of destroying swamp politics of DC, where everything gets mired down in Potomac river quicksand..
Clinton is unacceptable for that and other reasons.

And I'm much more a centrist then other Bernie supporters..but..I need to see more from him besides his ego.
I need to see him settle on some policies, and most of all need to see he has the temperament - which upto now is severely lacking.

Because there is always a 3rd party for us Bernie Bros to go to.

You are not a centrist you idiot.
 
the liberals were certainly quiet about what happened in Nevada......one might almost think they are afraid Hillary might lose.....

If the JPP liberal representation is an example of liberals in general, it's very apparent that they are very much afraid and this can be seen by how they're stepping up their attacks on Trump; because they've taken the spaghetti approach of throwing anything they can against the wall, in an attempt to see if they can get something to stick.

Their behavior is amusing and pathetic at the same time. :palm:
 
Bernie served as a congressman for 16 years before being elected to the Senate in 2006. How is he not an "insider", or "career politician?"

Why didn't he already destroy the "swamp politics of DC" in his 26 years there?

Just wondering.

Why reply to nonsense?
This poster is a self deluded idiot.
 
sure. his campaign is pure anti-insider. From big donors to wall st.
It's like a people power thing ( if you get the reference) rather then shifting around DC politics.

It's not pure populism, but it's a complete rejection of the same stale Revolving Door plutocrats making
DC function for themselves.

Palinesque word salad has no meaning.
 
You are an absolute idiot if you switch to Trump, I'm sorry there is no other word to describe people voting for Trump.

They are idiots
it's not impossible.. and you telling me as a Clinton voter that I would be so, is idiotic in itself..
I am completely not committed at this point except opposition to Clinton -because Clinton is the embodiment of everything evil.

warmonger, hyperpartisan, reliance on executive orders as promised, her campaign is nothing but identity politics..anti-federalist..corporatist..
Is Trump worse then that?
 
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Painted or natural, a populist is a populist is a clown. Also, a candidate shouldn't be faking their ideological credentials.
curious as to your meaning here..do you disdain populism itself, or Trump as populist.

Ideology is the absolute last thing I look for in a candidate ( my criteria)..
The thing is our government is dysfunctional to the point of being broken'and serving only the rich...

So ya..I'm desperately looking for something else...
 
Bernie served as a congressman for 16 years before being elected to the Senate in 2006. How is he not an "insider", or "career politician?"

Why didn't he already destroy the "swamp politics of DC" in his 26 years there?

Just wondering.

you mean Bernie the Independent?......
 
He is acknowledging that its not possible for a candidate to make such a choice, but I believe a Sanders endorsement will go a long way. Putting Sanders on the ticket would go even further.
I think a lot of it is going to be how the fear driven campaign produces how much (quantity) of loathing for each candidate..
 
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