Go! Bernie Go! Kentucky and Oregon

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Nearly 2,000 people showed up at the Julian Carroll Convention Center in Paducah, Kentucky for a Bernie Sanders rally on Sunday, May 15.

The event kicked off at 11 a.m. Sunday, and Sanders took the stage a little after 1 p.m.

The Democratic senator from Vermont spoke for more than an hour to an adoring crowd. Sanders kept to his main points at the rally, sticking to most of the positions that have garnered him support from millions of Democrats and Independents alike.

He spoke on the issue of free education and free college tuition, an issue that has millions of young people flocking to the candidate.

He also talked about jobs and the unemployment rate, describing the federal unemployment rate as actually being higher than what most people believe.

Sanders said the real unemployment rate isn't talked about much, but it "includes people who have given up looking for work and people who are working part-time when they want to work full-time."

He said that when all of those factors are included, the real unemployment rate is somewhere near ten percent.

He also focused on his message of Wall Street's control over both other candidates and the nation's economy.

"If you don't think that that is what is happening, you are not paying attention," Sanders said to roaring applause.

He spoke a lot about the "redistribution of wealth", even calling out the owners of Wal-Mart, the Walton family, saying they are more wealthy than the bottom 40 percent of people combined.

"Why? Why is it happening? It is happening because the people on top want it all! Well, I got news for them! If together we make it to the White House, those days are over!"

Sanders also touched on the rising rate of drug abuse and addiction in the country.

"I don't know anyone who has a magical solution to the problem," he said. " But I do say this, we're not going to go forward unless we recognize that addiction, opiate, heroin addiction, substance abuse, have got to be treated as health issues, not criminal issues."

Sanders' stop in Paducah comes just before Kentucky voters will head to the polls on Tuesday, May 17 for the state's presidential primary.

Sanders' campaign stop comes amid his recent successes on the trail. He clinched victories over front-runner Hillary Clinton in both Indiana and West Virginia.

The same has been true this last week throughout Oregon. Young Oregonians are registering in record numbers. The major media aren't reporting any of this because they've written Bernie off. But the Bernie groundswell continues nonetheless.

Tomorrow’s primaries in Kentucky and Oregon are critical. Bernie is on a roll. Remember: It’s not over until it’s over.
http://www.wave3.com/story/31966171/bernie-sanders-hosts-campaign-rally-to-huge-crowd-in-paducah
 
the liberals were certainly quiet about what happened in Nevada......one might almost think they are afraid Hillary might lose.....
 
Many of these Bernie supporters will switch to Trump once Hillary gets the nomination. I will predict their numbers will be significant because Bernie's supporters agree with the Trumpsters on trade and that the system is rigged.
 
Many of these Bernie supporters will switch to Trump once Hillary gets the nomination. I will predict their numbers will be significant because Bernie's supporters agree with the Trumpsters on trade and that the system is rigged.
I do indeed.
It's not lost on me they are both capable of destroying swamp politics of DC, where everything gets mired down in Potomac river quicksand..
Clinton is unacceptable for that and other reasons.

And I'm much more a centrist then other Bernie supporters..but..I need to see more from him besides his ego.
I need to see him settle on some policies, and most of all need to see he has the temperament - which upto now is severely lacking.

Because there is always a 3rd party for us Bernie Bros to go to.
 
Many of these Bernie supporters will switch to Trump once Hillary gets the nomination. I will predict their numbers will be significant because Bernie's supporters agree with the Trumpsters on trade and that the system is rigged.

Around 30% of Bernie's people in WV will go for Trump in the general. It will be interesting to see how that translates nationally. I'd say the Rust Belt Bernie/Trump supporters probably approach the same percentage.

If so, things can get real interesting.
 
I am excited about what happened in Nevada and hope Bernie can do something in Kentucky.

I think HRC is still going to win, but Sanders has earned himself whatever position he wants in the Clinton administration and some significant policy concessions.

Anything that can bring HRC more toward the liberal side.
 
Many of these Bernie supporters will switch to Trump once Hillary gets the nomination. I will predict their numbers will be significant because Bernie's supporters agree with the Trumpsters on trade and that the system is rigged.

I believe that is wishful thinking on your part, the Democratic Socialists are going to vote for the Republican Business mogul? Don't forget Sanders has said he will do whatever it takes to prevent Trump from being president, that very likely includes indorsing HRC. Additionally, HRC has a VP slot to offer, and I am not sold on the idea that Sanders would turn down the opportunity to be the first Democratic Socialist on a major party ticket. Breaking the socialist barrier would be BIG.

Unless you think Trump is entertaining the idea of VP Sanders?
 
any mention from bernie of the nevada thing? :/
I doubt the candidates will say anything
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I have been trolling FB, and there are a LOT of Bernie supporters who won't support Hilary -I mean a lot.
But it's early,and Clinton is shape-shifting left.

The thing is though it's not Clinton's policies that need shaping -it's Clinton herself and she can't not be a corporatist warmonger.
so we'll see. Bernie supporter are much more idealistic when it comes to getting rid of big money etc
All the things Clinton embodies.
 
I doubt the candidates will say anything
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I have been trolling FB, and there are a LOT of Bernie supporters who won't support Hilary -I mean a lot.
But it's early,and Clinton is shape-shifting left.

The thing is though it's not Clinton's policies that need shaping -it's Clinton herself and she can't not be a corporatist warmonger.
so we'll see. Bernie supporter are much more idealistic when it comes to getting rid of big money etc
All the things Clinton embodies.


Crazy Trump is not a shape shifter? Seriously, can I have some of what your smoking?
 
Crazy Trump is not a shape shifter? Seriously, can I have some of what your smoking?
I believe it was mentioned "I need to see him settle on some policies" -and he's certainly not going to pick up a lot of Bernie supporters.
But the premise that sanders and Trump are 'anti-establishment' holds true.

The question is can Clinton get them? I'm not sure this is '08 where PUMAS and such came back to Obama
once their feathers were smoothed out.
There is a real divide because Clinton is really anathema to many things Bernie stands for
outside of policies. (Donors/wall st/warmongering/corporatist, and the shitty way her surrogates go after Bernie)

Plus these are a lot of young people who would be more demoralized rather then old guys like me
whom are used to seeing America make shitty choices.
Like I said FB is extremely negative from his supporters to Clinton
 
It's not lost on me they are both capable of destroying swamp politics of DC, where everything gets mired down in Potomac river quicksand..

Bernie served as a congressman for 16 years before being elected to the Senate in 2006. How is he not an "insider", or "career politician?"

Why didn't he already destroy the "swamp politics of DC" in his 26 years there?

Just wondering.
 
I believe it was mentioned "I need to see him settle on some policies" -and he's certainly not going to pick up a lot of Bernie supporters.
But the premise that sanders and Trump are 'anti-establishment' holds true.

The question is can Clinton get them? I'm not sure this is '08 where PUMAS and such came back to Obama
once their feathers were smoothed out.
There is a real divide because Clinton is really anathema to many things Bernie stands for
outside of policies. (Donors/wall st/warmongering/corporatist, and the shitty way her surrogates go after Bernie)

Plus these are a lot of young people who would be more demoralized rather then old guys like me
whom are used to seeing America make shitty choices.
Like I said FB is extremely negative from his supporters to Clinton

And yet, Sanders said he will do whatever it takes to make sure Crazy Don does not get elected president.
 
Bernie served as a congressman for 16 years before being elected to the Senate in 2006. How is he not an "insider", or "career politician?"

Why didn't he already destroy the "swamp politics of DC" in his 26 years there?

Just wondering.
sure. his campaign is pure anti-insider. From big donors to wall st.
It's like a people power thing ( if you get the reference) rather then shifting around DC politics.

It's not pure populism, but it's a complete rejection of the same stale Revolving Door plutocrats making
DC function for themselves.
 
Bernie served as a congressman for 16 years before being elected to the Senate in 2006. How is he not an "insider", or "career politician?"

Why didn't he already destroy the "swamp politics of DC" in his 26 years there?

Just wondering.


He is an insider in that he has been serving in D.C., but he is an outsider to Party Politics, he only joined the Democratic party recently. Sanders has never been a party guy, Trump has been a Republican longer than Sanders has been a Democrat.
 
And yet, Sanders said he will do whatever it takes to make sure Crazy Don does not get elected president.
sure he's going to go after Trumps RW policies. But he's also said more consistently its not up to him to bring his supporters to Clinton.
And his supporters really do not like Clinton.
 
sure he's going to go after Trumps RW policies. But he's also said more consistently its not up to him to bring his supporters to Clinton.
And his supporters really do not like Clinton.


He is acknowledging that its not possible for a candidate to make such a choice, but I believe a Sanders endorsement will go a long way. Putting Sanders on the ticket would go even further.
 
sure. his campaign is pure anti-insider. From big donors to wall st. It's like a people power thing ( if you get the reference) rather then shifting around DC politics. It's not pure populism, but it's a complete rejection of the same stale Revolving Door plutocrats making DC function for themselves.


Think so?

Is Trump anti-big donor?

Is Trump a "man of the people"?

Is Trump a longtime crony of Wall Streeters like Jeffrey Epstein?
 
Around 30% of Bernie's people in WV will go for Trump in the general. It will be interesting to see how that translates nationally. I'd say the Rust Belt Bernie/Trump supporters probably approach the same percentage. If so, things can get real interesting.

Have you paid any attention to Bernie's energy policies, traitor?

I don't think he'll bring coal back....:rofl2:
 
He is acknowledging that its not possible for a candidate to make such a choice, but I believe a Sanders endorsement will go a long way. Putting Sanders on the ticket would go even further.
could be. that's all well and good traditional politics, and it worked in '08..but there is a real desire for more then just a Democrat this time.
They want revolutionary politics. No more oligarchy, no more $30,000/plate dinners like Clooney ..we're done serving the establishment
because the establishment serves only the rich.

Clinton is pure establishment. She's a poster child for DC politics.. so there is the divide.
 
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