christiefan915
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That still doesn't tell me that there's a direct link between having a dem mayor and having crime. As in "correlation does not imply causation."
Don't you ever say 'black on black crime' again
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That still doesn't tell me that there's a direct link between having a dem mayor and having crime. As in "correlation does not imply causation."
You fucking racist..... (I am pretending to be Desh)
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Thats why you will never see an innocent black man, most are thugs and killers....
cawacko
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You were asking who ran the various cities so that's what I responded to. There are many big cities in this country that have been dominated by Democrats for decades. It's too facile an answer to say it's only Democrats fault or credit for what happens in these cities but at the same time when your policies have been implemented in an area for a long time they play a major role in the results.
christiefan915
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This isn't against you cawacko but I'd need to see exactly which policies by dems are playing a role here.
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cawacko
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Definitely, because each City probably has different policies and not every Democrat and Republican across the country all govern the same (especially on a local level) so there can be variance.
But if the question is which party's policies have played a bigger role in major cities (from a local level) the answer for better or worse is going to be Democrats.
Taichiliberal
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A link to DailyKOS.....
Blacks are afraid to look in the mirror and realize they are getting killed more by each other than one bad police shooting....
Idiot, did you even read what Christie wrote? Nope, you just bray like the blinders wearing jackass you are. Black leadership has been in the media for YEARS complaining about the lack of funding for local schools, jobs, etc., and the bad police work in the black community. Yes, black folk drawing attention to crime in their community. I know dummies like you ignore such, but that doesn't change the reality....nor does it change what Christie put in the OP. But if YOU insist upon myopic statistics, then it's more likely a woman, ANY WOMAN, is to be raped by a white man than a black man. Think about it, or in your case, don't...because you can't fault or disprove one iota of the Daily Kos content, you intellectually impotent coward.
Appalachia: The big white ghetto where
the rate of violent crime is lower than the national average.....98.5 percent white
The Top 10 Poorest Counties in America are in Appalachia
Nothing is complicated if you ignore reality and deny facts.....
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This is the kind of post I'm talking about.
I'm not even going to repeat everything I've already said. I know your mind gets a little full when I start expounding on circumstances.
I'd like to hear YOUR opinion: what conclusion do you then draw from the above? What conclusion are we supposed to draw, based on the fact that you clearly went out of your way to highlight - "98.5 percent white"? Why would you highlight that stat if you were NOT trying to say there was something inherent about African Americans?
You keep denying that you are saying or implying this. But re-read your post. What is someone supposed to think about what you are saying?
Black on Black crime is the reason life expectancy for Blacks is so low.
Perhaps you find the Black-on-Black homicide rate to be perfectly acceptable or normal for Blacks.
Homicide 'directly affecting' racial gap in U.S. life expectancy ...
www.nbcnews.com/.../homicide-directly-affecting-racial-...
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cawacko
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It's probably not surprising the wide range of responses to this topic. There's some straight up racism and there's this almost liberal denial of the problem.
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christiefan915
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We know blacks are incarcerated in higher numbers than whites so the argument can't be that dem mayors are softer on black crime.
based on the fact that you clearly went out of your way to highlight - "98.5 percent white"????????????
You must be looking at a different post....I certainly did not highlight '98.5% white'.....
You're not supposed to draw any particular conclusions from post except that poverty is only one of many causes of violent crime....
Poverty certainly has an affect on crime, as do numerous other factors....but it ain't the be all and end all cause...especially on violent crime such as murder and rape.
Sorry, I must have overlooked the post where you were 'expounding' on all those other circumstances....I only saw where you mentioned poverty.
So you tell us, what conclusions did you draw from it.
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Which liberal is doing that cawacko? I have never seen liberal deny there is a problem. We just don't chalk to it to the fact that they are black like the racists on this forum, I believe the word used was propensity. Liberals also realize the problem is complicated and unless the economics change for the inner cities, there will be little change in the situation.
christiefan915
Catalyst
Only half-true bravs.
"Or travel to the Appalachian mountains, where my own ancestors settled and whose cultural values I still share, and view the poorest counties in America -- who happen to be more than 90 percent white, and who live in the reality that ‘if you’re poor and white, you’re out of sight,’" Webb said. Are the poorest counties in the U.S. located in Appalachia and more than 90 percent white? We asked Webb for proof. Amy Hogan, Webb’s daughter and occasional spokesperson, sent us links to the WikiPedia pages for Clay County, Ky. and Leslie County, Ky. -- two Appalachian counties located in the economically-distressed eastern portion of that state.
But Hogan didn’t point to any information that indicates those counties are the poorest in the U.S., although the Clay County WikiPedia page says its per capita income and median household income make it one of the poorest counties in the country. So we set out on our own search for the poorest counties, relying on data by the U.S. Census Bureau measuring the average yearly wealth from 2008-2012. As our colleagues at PolitiFact National noted in a July story, there are several ways to gauge the poorest counties. We compiled Bottom 10 lists based on three criteria.
Lowest Median Household Income:
- Owsley County, Ky., $19,624
- Jefferson County, Miss., $20,281
- Wolfe County, Ky., $21,168
- Brooks County, Texas, $21,445
- McCreary County, Ky., $21,758
- Hudspeth County, Texas, $22,083
- Hancock County, Tenn., $22,205
- Jackson County, Ky., $22,213
- Clay County, Ky., $22,296
- Holmes County, Miss., $22,335
Highest percentage of people below the poverty line:
- Shannon County, S.D., 49.5 percent
- Clay County, Ga., 47.7 percent
- East Carroll Parish, La., 44.9 percent
- Sioux County, N.D., 44.8 percent
- Todd County, S.D., 44.6 percent
- Hudspeth County, Texas, 42.7 percent
- Holmes County, Miss., 42.6 percent
- Corson County, S.D., 41.7 percent
- Wolfe County, Ky., 41.4 percent
- Humphreys County, Miss., 41.2 percent
Lowest per capita income:
- Wheeler County, Ga., $8,809
- Shannon County, S.D., $9,136
- Hancock County, Ga., $11,225
- Todd County, S.D., $11,417
- Starr County, Texas, $11,537
- Jefferson County, Miss., $11,771
- Willacy County, Texas, $11,895
- Zavala County, Texas, $11,919
- McCreary County, Ky., $12,213
- Holmes County, Miss., $12,278
There’s one Appalachian locality on this list: McCreary County, Ky., which is 90 percent white. Hancock County, Ga. is 60 percent white.The counties in Mississippi are about 85 percent black, the ones in South Dakota are about 90 percent Native American, and those in Texas are at least 87 percent Hispanic and Latino. In sharing these lists, we don’t mean to downplay the very real existence of poverty in Appalachian counties that span 13 states, including Virginia. The Appalachian Regional Commission says there are 311 U.S. counties that are economically distressed based on measurements of unemployment, poverty and per capita market income. About 10 percent of all U.S. counties fall into this category.
Our ruling
Webb said that the poorest U.S. counties are in Appalachia and "happen to be more than 90 percent white."
No doubt, some of the poorest are in Appalachia, particularly eastern Kentucky. But looking at several different measures of county poverty results in a more complex picture than Webb suggests.
Measured by median household income, overwhelmingly white Appalachian counties comprise six of the 10 U.S. counties with the lowest median household income. But measured by the poverty rate, only one mostly-white Appalachian county ranks in the 10 poorest. The other nine -- in the South, the Dakotas or Texas -- have larger majorities that are either black, Native American, or Hispanic and Latino. That pattern pretty much holds up when you rank the poorest counties by lowest per capita income.
So Webb’s statement is partially accurate, but needs context. We rate it Half True.
http://www.politifact.com/virginia/...bb-says-poorest-us-counties-are-appalachia-a/
christiefan915
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Please point out anything in my posts where I said that homicide rate is acceptable or normal. I'll understand if you can't.
cawacko
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When the focus is trying to make the number one reason for death of young black males equivalent in the white community when it's not even close that's denying the problem. It would be like denying AIDS most strongly hit the gay community in the '80's. Yes AIDS affects and kills heterosexuals as well but clearly the gay community was most affected.