Driver firing randomly on U.S. highway kills two

kaz said:
OK, let's go to the shootings. Sandy Hook, Virginia Tech, Columbine, Aurora, the Washington Navy Yard, Oregon, San Bernadino. Pick whichever one you want. Who was armed and shooting back? Go...
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:rolleyes: They became criminals when they killed, not because they were the only ones with guns.
 
Damocles said:
Actually, to be less facetious, though conversion to Buddhism would make a difference, I would suggest studying our actions during the times where gun violence was less of a problem. We used to teach gun safety in schools rather than gun fear. Kids did play "cops and robbers" and other games... Why was there less of an issue back then?
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Our culture changed as far as violence.
 
christiefan915 said:
Nice! If you let me know who it is next season, I'll start supporting the team a little more.
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His name is Ryan Vogelsong. He should be a starting pitcher. He and his wife are awesome and have a great back story. He grew up outside Philly and went to Kutztown. His wife grew up about 15 miles north of Pittsburgh somewhere near Oakmont so they have PA roots.
 
christiefan915 said:
Our culture changed as far as violence.
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You know I live in SF and there is a lot of history here and there was a LOT of violence in San Francisco's past. I would still argue violence has always been a part of us. With the advent of the internet and even cable TV (24 hour news channels) we are just getting exposed to it a lot more.
 
cawacko said:
His name is Ryan Vogelsong. He should be a starting pitcher. He and his wife are awesome and have a great back story. He grew up outside Philly and went to Kutztown. His wife grew up about 15 miles north of Pittsburgh somewhere near Oakmont so they have PA roots.
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It was in today's paper! My bff is a big Pirates fan so I'll tell her. Her favorite player this year was Francisco Cervelli.

The Pirates’ newest pitcher is a familiar old face. Ryan Vogelsong, a right-hander, signed a one-year deal with the team Friday, helping the Pirates fill their starting rotation. Vogelsong, 38, from Kutztown, Pa., pitched for the Pirates from 2001-06 before playing in Japan, then returning to the majors with the San Francisco Giants in 2011. The deal is worth $2 million, plus a possible $3 million in incentives, according to an industry source.

General manager Neal Huntington said Friday, "Because of [Vogelsong's] desire to come back and pitch in Pittsburgh, the contract he has agreed to allows us to redistribute dollars elsewhere."
Vogelsong, a Giants fifth-round draft pick in 1998, went 9-11 with a 4.67 ERA in 33 appearances, 22 starts this past season for the Giants. He is not the pitcher the Pirates knew a decade ago, nor are the Pirates the franchise he knew then. Vogelsong was an All-Star in 2011 and won World Series titles with the Giants in 2012 and 2014.

“He’s been where we’re working to get to,” Huntington said. “He’s going to be able to share that experience and what he’s seen and heard along the way toward those championship clubs … [He’s] a guy who is motivated to come back here, take care of business and help this club win.” Vogelsong will join Gerrit Cole, Francisco Liriano, Jon Niese and Jeff Locke in the Pirates starting rotation.

“As we sit here today, we plan on [Vogelsong] being in our rotation,” Huntington said. “He’s going to have to continue to pitch well enough to keep that spot.”

Asked whether he would be comfortable if the current rotation ends up as the starting five on opening day, Huntington replied:
“As you look back at where our rotation was going into 2015, with Gerrit Cole, Francisco Liriano, A.J. Burnett coming off a down year, Charlie Morton and Jeff Locke, I don’t think anybody would have projected that rotation was going to put us in a position to win 98 games.”

With this rotation, plus the money saved by swapping out Morton for Vogelsong, plus the pitching prospects who should be ready at some point this season, Huntington said the Pirates are not in desperate need of another starter.

“We feel like we’ve been able to reallocate dollars accordingly,” Huntington said, “and put together a club we feel will fight, compete and be in a position to potentially make a fourth run into the postseason.”

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/...gelsong-to-one-year-deal/stories/201512180274
 
christiefan915 said:
It was in today's paper! My bff is a big Pirates fan so I'll tell her. Her favorite player this year was Francisco Cervelli.

The Pirates’ newest pitcher is a familiar old face. Ryan Vogelsong, a right-hander, signed a one-year deal with the team Friday, helping the Pirates fill their starting rotation. Vogelsong, 38, from Kutztown, Pa., pitched for the Pirates from 2001-06 before playing in Japan, then returning to the majors with the San Francisco Giants in 2011. The deal is worth $2 million, plus a possible $3 million in incentives, according to an industry source.

General manager Neal Huntington said Friday, "Because of [Vogelsong's] desire to come back and pitch in Pittsburgh, the contract he has agreed to allows us to redistribute dollars elsewhere."
Vogelsong, a Giants fifth-round draft pick in 1998, went 9-11 with a 4.67 ERA in 33 appearances, 22 starts this past season for the Giants. He is not the pitcher the Pirates knew a decade ago, nor are the Pirates the franchise he knew then. Vogelsong was an All-Star in 2011 and won World Series titles with the Giants in 2012 and 2014.

“He’s been where we’re working to get to,” Huntington said. “He’s going to be able to share that experience and what he’s seen and heard along the way toward those championship clubs … [He’s] a guy who is motivated to come back here, take care of business and help this club win.” Vogelsong will join Gerrit Cole, Francisco Liriano, Jon Niese and Jeff Locke in the Pirates starting rotation.

“As we sit here today, we plan on [Vogelsong] being in our rotation,” Huntington said. “He’s going to have to continue to pitch well enough to keep that spot.”

Asked whether he would be comfortable if the current rotation ends up as the starting five on opening day, Huntington replied:
“As you look back at where our rotation was going into 2015, with Gerrit Cole, Francisco Liriano, A.J. Burnett coming off a down year, Charlie Morton and Jeff Locke, I don’t think anybody would have projected that rotation was going to put us in a position to win 98 games.”

With this rotation, plus the money saved by swapping out Morton for Vogelsong, plus the pitching prospects who should be ready at some point this season, Huntington said the Pirates are not in desperate need of another starter.

“We feel like we’ve been able to reallocate dollars accordingly,” Huntington said, “and put together a club we feel will fight, compete and be in a position to potentially make a fourth run into the postseason.”

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/...gelsong-to-one-year-deal/stories/201512180274
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Awesome! My wife started babysitting for them when he was called up to the Giants in 2011. She and his wife hit it off and next thing you they were like our best friends.
 
Sheogorath said:
Both are crimes. But when one succeeds, they typically cannot be punished.
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"Historically, various states listed the act as a felony, but all were reluctant to enforce it. By 1963, six states still considered attempted suicide a crime (North and South Dakota, Washington, New Jersey, Nevada, and Oklahoma, which repealed its law in 1976). By the early 1990s only two U.S. states still listed suicide as a crime, and these have since removed that classification.

In some U.S. states, suicide is still considered an unwritten "common law crime" as stated in Blackstone's Commentaries. (So held the Virginia Supreme Court in Wackwitz v. Roy in 1992.) As a common law crime, suicide can bar recovery for the family of the suicidal person in a lawsuit unless the suicidal person can be proven to have been "of unsound mind."

http://www.gutenberg.us/articles/legal_views_of_suicide
 
christiefan915 said:
Why haven't you, instead of just whining about it?

Why didn't reagan, Bush41 and bush43 change it?

If you were honest you'd admit that the majority of the country is satisfied with the culture and the majority is not all Democratic.
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we didn't change it because drug crazed people do not listen and learn......we're waiting for your high to burn off......
 
Sheogorath said:
I'll remember that next time I'm drinking and driving. "Don't worry ma'am, it was an accident I killed your 8 year old daughter"

"Oh well that's ok have a nice day sir!".

You also ignored the whole "most gun deaths are suicides, which you should support".
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another afluenza victim!.......
 
cawacko said:
His name is Ryan Vogelsong. He should be a starting pitcher. He and his wife are awesome and have a great back story. He grew up outside Philly and went to Kutztown. His wife grew up about 15 miles north of Pittsburgh somewhere near Oakmont so they have PA roots.
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wtf.....my roommate in law school was a Vogelsong (Dutch for bird song, by the way)......until now I assumed that was an extremely rare name.......
 
Norah said:
I don't think that the amount of guns available to people makes violence go up since it's just an object. I think that if you look throughout history whatever a person has been able to carry with them has been used to commit a crime with or hurt or kill somebody with. Whether it's a knife or sword or ax or bow and arrow or poison or a bottle of black powder or even a match to set something on fire with were all ways of committing crimes or hurting people before the invention of guns but you didn't see a reduction in sword production until something better came along to defend yourself with or to use in a crime. In 200 years what will have replaced todays guns? The real problem is with self control and people. A guy has to go get his gun, load it, and bring it with him to do whatever it is that he already in his mind wants to do. If he didn't have a gun he would use a knife or a bomb or his car. The gun is just the tool, it's not the reason.
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