christiefan915
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Are you nuts?
Conservative keyboard crusaders: get into the fight, unless you're too scared
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Are you nuts?
Legion Troll
A fine upstanding poster
Possibly he is. But he is harmless.
christiefan915
Catalyst
That wasn't the point. You associated the Iraq conflict with protecting the nation and the constitution and that wasn't the reason for it. Did you think we had a legitimate reason to be there?
Your "freedoms" haven't been in danger for centuries.
christiefan915
Catalyst
I think 99% of the people who join are at least partly in sympathy with what the government orders and would do whatever asked. Pacifists and doves wouldn't enlist.
A few have disobeyed orders.
christiefan915
Catalyst
"Would you take in Syrians" must be the latest talking point on RW websites as you're all using it. Who are we supposed to volunteer to?
Maybe Syrian refugees would be afraid to live in some American houses, given the level of animosity toward their faith and all the hate out there.
christiefan915
Catalyst
Anybody who joins the military should know from the beginning that they're required to follow orders. I can't imagine why you enlisted, knowing that.
Legion Troll
A fine upstanding poster
My family friend join Army, and family ask what if he ordered to do something illegal. And he say, like what. And they ask, like murder innocent children. And he say Army cannot order him to that. And they say, but what if. And he say he no have to obey that order.
So, is he required to obey order to kill innocent children?
christiefan915
Catalyst
Honestly, I don't know. I've read that soldiers were ordered to kill innocents in war zones but don't know what happened if they didn't obey.
I would believe if soldiers would ordered that. But my family friend say, that no good soldier would follow bad order. He say, yes he must follow order, but not order against conscious or mind. Um, like, if order against his mind, he say, he do not have to follow, because he is not robot. I don't know, just what he say. I not allowed to ask question when he talk.
The battles we fought while I was in did not matter to the reason I chose to stand for this nation. Unless I was psychic I could not have known what battles the CIC and Congress may choose for us to fight.
And our freedoms are always in danger, usually from people in the US who do not appreciate them.
christiefan915
Catalyst
You seem so sensible most of the time, too sensible to fall for the bit about our freedoms always being in danger.
christiefan915
Catalyst
WADR I think of these militias as grown men playing glorified paintball games.
I am a libertarian Constitutional Conservative and have always been since you have known me. It is fundamental and central to almost every political opinion I hold. It seems absurd to me that you haven't understood that.
Indeed. But their existence directly shows the whole "yer guns aren't good enough to matter if the government goes bad" argument to be useless drivel.
christiefan915
Catalyst
You can be all that and still not hold the opinion that your freedoms are always in danger.
However you think of people who think we need to jealously protect our rights and freedoms matters little to what I believe.
christiefan915
Catalyst
I'm not asking you to think my opinion is important. I'm trying to understand from you and others why you think our freedoms are in danger. It's not obvious, as I think it would be if there were real danger.
You can find many examples in history of freedoms lost through a much slower leeching process. Usually in those examples people vote for the people who will eventually take their freedoms.
What is a libertarian Constitutional Conservative?