There you go again; pretending to be a dumbass. Oh wait, that is not an act.
88 Americans killed in gun violence every day.
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There you go again; pretending to be a dumbass. Oh wait, that is not an act.
Legion Troll
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Is that a fact?
Cite your statistical evidence for that assertion.
I'll understand if you can't.
So once more, you have nothing.
I'd have thought that since you've supposedly posted your "plan" 1001 times, you'd be prepared to give some details beyond rainbows and unicorns.
Guess not.
Now, post a GIF and capitalize TARD.
Too stupid to research it for yourself vagina man? Meanwhile, no plan from you.
I'll understand if you can't.
Once more you have nothing; but I understand why you can't post a solution.
Still making up Bullshit as you go eh TrollTARD? But I understand.
you'd be prepared to give some details beyond rainbows and unicorns.
Guess not.
Fascinating; you think your lack of details or a plan constitutes substance. But rainbows, unicorns and trolling are your expertise.
Cry harder TrollTARD.
Legion Troll
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christiefan915
Catalyst
Did you read Chopped Liver's and Stormy's posts? They pulled the race card.
christiefan915
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Cars aren't made expressly for killing. Neither are swimming pools nor any other bogus comparison of weaponry v. non-weaponry.
christiefan915
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If most gun deaths are perpetrated by blacks on blacks, the cons here are secretly thrilled.
Legion Troll
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christiefan915
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I would like to know, if gun deaths are being discussed, why introduce any race or ethnic group?
Legion Troll
A fine upstanding poster
Secretly?
christiefan915
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You're right. Openly.SmarterthanYou
rebel
and much like you are completely ignorant of my posts where I criticize republicans, I ignore nearly all of there posts.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
so we provide police with the specific intent on killing civilians?
Abatis asked you question....and your answer indicates their is no context in which you would be able to discuss the issue of urban Black youth killing each other without reverting to calling someone racist.....
so the problem seems to be YOU not Abatis....
What would YOU 'label' young urban black men that are killing each other by the hundreds ?
christiefan915
Catalyst
I have CL on ignore but still see his comments when someone responds to him
christiefan915
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The problem is you and others who seem to think black killing is worse than white killing when it's all bad.
I can see push-back if the permit system becomes a federal power grab and vehicle for federal registration.
I would prefer a state system along the lines of a state driver's license or even just a endorsement on one's driver's license.
Some states would be forced to relax their carry laws; the problem for certain aspects of the gun lobby will be in those states where concealed carry is recognized with no permit. They would need to institute a system and their residents would need to follow it (if they wanted to carry outside the state).
Of course they will. No doubt it is leftist policies that cultivate and nurture the criminality in Democrat run urban hell-holes; my measures wll remove some of their ability to protect the criminals.
The fact is that most murders are committed by those "in the game" and these violent offenders have had multiple contacts with the "justice" system before their act of killing someone.
Back in 2007 USAToday reported on this.
"In Baltimore, about 91% of murder victims this year had criminal records, up from 74% a decade ago, police reported. . . .
David Kennedy, a professor at New York's John Jay College of Criminal Justice, says the rise in criminals killing criminals has escaped policymakers' attention.
"The notion that these (murders) are random bolts of lightning, which is the commonly held image, is not the reality," says Kennedy, who has examined the backgrounds of murder suspects and victims in multiple U.S. cities. "It happens, but it doesn't happen often."
The slaying of truly innocent victims is so unusual in Baltimore that the chief prosecutor says the city has become dangerously numb to the carnage. "If we don't put human faces on the victims, we will become desensitized," State Attorney Patricia Jessamy says."
David Kennedy, a professor at New York's John Jay College of Criminal Justice, says the rise in criminals killing criminals has escaped policymakers' attention.
"The notion that these (murders) are random bolts of lightning, which is the commonly held image, is not the reality," says Kennedy, who has examined the backgrounds of murder suspects and victims in multiple U.S. cities. "It happens, but it doesn't happen often."
The slaying of truly innocent victims is so unusual in Baltimore that the chief prosecutor says the city has become dangerously numb to the carnage. "If we don't put human faces on the victims, we will become desensitized," State Attorney Patricia Jessamy says."
Nothing has changed for the better, given the Ferguson Effect and Freddie gray slowdown, if anything the hands-off, hug-a-thug policies obviously begat more murders . . . Baltimore went over 300+ murders this year.
It definately is lack of prosecution . . .
Take St Louis for instance. At a Conference on gun crime for police chiefs St Louis' Chief said:
"One thing we have to be aware of to give context to this whole problem is that we are looking at an urban problem. It’s much less a suburban or rural problem. It really affects young minorities— Hispanic and black males. I think that the suspects devalue life, the victims devalue life, and the system also devalues life. When you look at the shooting victims and suspects in these neighborhoods, you see 20 or 30 felony arrests, with eight convictions.
Often the convictions don’t result in any jail time at all; they’re getting probation on top of probation. This has caused a lot of us in cities to move toward federal prosecution, because we know on the state level it’s a hit-and-miss prospect: they’re arrested, they’re convicted, and they come out multiple times.
In Missouri, there’s a type of probation people can receive, and it has made it very difficult for us to establish a person as a convicted felon. I’ve heard other chiefs talking about the fact that a weapons charge in their state is only a misdemeanor offense. But in St. Louis, a weapons violation can turn out to be no offense at all. An individual will get arrested for a weapons charge, which is a felony, and often they plead to that case and get an SIS—a suspended imposition of sentence. It means that if you serve out your probation, which everybody does, that conviction is erased.
So if you’re arrested again with another weapon, you don’t have a conviction on your record, so you’re not a felon in possession of a weapon. If you continue to get multiple SISs, you never become a convicted felon. These offenders will often show up for other crimes, and if they never have a conviction, then you’re never able to put stiffer charges on them."
Often the convictions don’t result in any jail time at all; they’re getting probation on top of probation. This has caused a lot of us in cities to move toward federal prosecution, because we know on the state level it’s a hit-and-miss prospect: they’re arrested, they’re convicted, and they come out multiple times.
In Missouri, there’s a type of probation people can receive, and it has made it very difficult for us to establish a person as a convicted felon. I’ve heard other chiefs talking about the fact that a weapons charge in their state is only a misdemeanor offense. But in St. Louis, a weapons violation can turn out to be no offense at all. An individual will get arrested for a weapons charge, which is a felony, and often they plead to that case and get an SIS—a suspended imposition of sentence. It means that if you serve out your probation, which everybody does, that conviction is erased.
So if you’re arrested again with another weapon, you don’t have a conviction on your record, so you’re not a felon in possession of a weapon. If you continue to get multiple SISs, you never become a convicted felon. These offenders will often show up for other crimes, and if they never have a conviction, then you’re never able to put stiffer charges on them."
And not only are these hardened offenders back out on the street, they never become prohibited persons as far as gun rights disability goes . . . A person who has been arrested multiple times for gun crimes can go into a gun store and pass the NICS check . . .
I don't disagree that leftist social policies nurture criminality but liberal hug-a-thug justice systems where clearance rates are more important than protecting the public keep violent criminals on the street and definitely increase crime, especially gun crime including murder. My suggestions remove that discretion from local prosecutors and judges.
Because there is obviously something going on when 15 -25 year-old members of a racial group --who represent 1.1% of the US population-- account for 23% of gun homicide victims in the USA (2013 numbers).
No laws disarming suburban whites will ever impact those murders and gun control advocates trying to convince suburban White soccer moms that little Connor, Taylor and Logan have the same risk of being shot as DeShawn, DeAndre and Demetrius slinging dope in the hood . . . are spewing absolute bullshit.