DEBATE: if alcohol is legal, why shouldn't marijuana be?

You may be misunderstanding the concept.

There is no Appeal to Ignorance of our own laws. The social Power to Prohibit forms of Commerce doesn't exist if that power is no longer delegated to our federal Congress.


You can make all the proclamations you want; but it's still against Federal law. :good4u:
 
You complained about people being arrested for MJ usage and I correlated it with people being arrested for DUI's.

Nope, I was making the point that Taft's argument is backwards.

You countered with MJ not being a crime and I showed that it still is.

Nope,I said it was not a REAL crime, i.e., it has no victim or injured party and the laws serve no valid state interest. You countered with it's against the law, which is not at all responsive to my point.

Now you want to argue that it shouldn't be and I offered that neither should be DUI's, unless they've hurt someone.

The state has stewardship of the roads. It has an interest and even a responsibility to make sure the roads are safe. If you violate the property owners rules then you are in effect injuring the property owner and they are entitled to take action against you. You are permitted to drive drunk, at any speed you like, without working brake lights, a driver's license or insurance in an empty field. You just can't do those things on the state's roads. Your argument is weak and easily defeated.

Are you actually arguing that DUI laws should be repealed or is it just rhetorical bullshit designed to let you justify your big government views and support of tyranny, like taft's nonsense about welfare?

Talking with you is like playing a game of Pong; but you keep wanting to change the size of the paddles.

I haven't changed anything. Your perception of the paddle's size has grown because you have been spanked with it.
 
1 - Nope, I was making the point that Taft's argument is backwards.



2 - Nope,I said it was not a REAL crime, i.e., it has no victim or injured party and the laws serve no valid state interest. You countered with it's against the law, which is not at all responsive to my point.



The state has stewardship of the roads. It has an interest and even a responsibility to make sure the roads are safe. If you violate the property owners rules then you are in effect injuring the property owner and they are entitled to take action against you. You are permitted to drive drunk, at any speed you like, without working brake lights, a driver's license or insurance in an empty field. You just can't do those things on the state's roads. Your argument is weak and easily defeated.

Are you actually arguing that DUI laws should be repealed or is it just rhetorical bullshit designed to let you justify your big government views and support of tyranny, like taft's nonsense about welfare?

I haven't changed anything. Your perception of the paddle's size has grown because you have been spanked with it.

1 - Which had nothing to do with what was presented to you.

2 - But it is a real crime, with real penalties and real time incarcerated; but how is a DUI a "real crime"?

3 - Then you have no problem with laws that deal with driving and MJ. :good4u:

4 - I don't see how you getting slapped in the face with them, can be considered a spanking by me!! :dunno:
 
1 - Which had nothing to do with what was presented to you.

2 - But it is a real crime, with real penalties and real time incarcerated; but how is a DUI a "real crime"?

3 - Then you have no problem with laws that deal with driving and MJ. :good4u:

4 - I don't see how you getting slapped in the face with them, can be considered a spanking by me!! :dunno:

1. It did have to do with what Taft presented.

2. Non responsive. You have not countered my points. Who is the vicitm in the crime of marijuana possession? What is the state's interest in prohibiting it?

I already answered those questions for Dui and therefore your question about how it is a real crime.

3. Not in principle, no.

4. You are a loser.
 
Nope, I was making the point that Taft's argument is backwards.

My argument was to retool the welfare state before legalization, to avoid having a society of laze about potheads jumping onto the public dole.

If that's backwards, then you're essentially advocating for legalization and government subsidization of the pothead lifestyle.

Which we all know is the true agenda anyway...."The Dream" has become a Democrat super majority of potheads, illegal aliens, and married homos.
 
My argument was to retool the welfare state before legalization, to avoid having a society of laze about potheads jumping onto the public dole.

If that's backwards, then you're essentially advocating for legalization and government subsidization of the pothead lifestyle.

Which we all know is the true agenda anyway...."The Dream" has become a Democrat super majority of potheads, illegal aliens, and married homos.

Poor people don't have shit to do with the argument over legal pot.
You fucking Gestapo loser
 
Poor people don't have shit to do with the argument over legal pot.
You fucking Gestapo loser

Nooooo, or course not. :rolleyes:

Just like the Civil Rights Act wasn't going to have shit to do with racial quotas.

Just like the War on Poverty would end the permanent underclass.

Just like the Texas sodomy case wasn't going to have shit to do with gay marriage.

Tell your bullshit pinko libtard story to one of your own. They're the only ones who will believe you.
 
Nooooo, or course not. :rolleyes:

Just like the Civil Rights Act wasn't going to have shit to do with racial quotas.

Just like the War on Poverty would end the permanent underclass.

Just like the Texas sodomy case wasn't going to have shit to do with gay marriage.

Tell your bullshit pinko libtard story to one of your own. They're the only ones who will believe you.

You working class whites are bitter.
Hillarious your so hung up on the poor
That you are in fact remaining poor
 
My argument was to retool the welfare state before legalization, to avoid having a society of laze about potheads jumping onto the public dole.

If that's backwards, then you're essentially advocating for legalization and government subsidization of the pothead lifestyle.

Which we all know is the true agenda anyway...."The Dream" has become a Democrat super majority of potheads, illegal aliens, and married homos.

Please show how one "jumps on the dole".
 
Nooooo, or course not. :rolleyes:

Just like the Civil Rights Act wasn't going to have shit to do with racial quotas.
I love the civil rights act, I've never felt remotely disadvantaged by it, you must be an un competitive nancy boy!
Just like the War on Poverty would end the permanent underclass.
It's helped a ton, hasn't hurt us rich
Just like the Texas sodomy case wasn't going to have shit to do with gay marriage.
You right wingers have weird sexual hang ups
Tell your bullshit pinko libtard story to one of your own. They're the only ones who will believe you.
Jurassic on you out of touch fossil
 
My argument was to retool the welfare state before legalization, to avoid having a society of laze about potheads jumping onto the public dole.

If that's backwards, then you're essentially advocating for legalization and government subsidization of the pothead lifestyle.

Which we all know is the true agenda anyway...."The Dream" has become a Democrat super majority of potheads, illegal aliens, and married homos.

I am not advocating any such thing. You have nothing to support your claim that there is some connection between marijuana use and being a welfare recipient.

Few of these people are welfare recipients except for the politicians like Bush and Palin. http://www.mpp.org/outreach/top-50-marijuana-users-list.html

You do have it backwards. The drug war marks young people with an arrest record making it harder for them to get jobs, it eliminates what would be a very lucrative and job creating industry and the costs are a drain on other parts of the economy. I really don't think we can reform welfare until the drug war is eliminated. Horse in front of the cart.
 
Last edited:
Nooooo, or course not. :rolleyes:

Just like the Civil Rights Act wasn't going to have shit to do with racial quotas.

Just like the War on Poverty would end the permanent underclass.

Just like the Texas sodomy case wasn't going to have shit to do with gay marriage.

Tell your bullshit pinko libtard story to one of your own. They're the only ones who will believe you.

Where are these quotas?

I said Lawrence would eventually lead to gay marriage at the time which was to its benefit. So did Scalia. I am not sure who you are claiming was assuring you it would not.

You are going continue to lose, dinosaur. Quit fighting it and just embrace the tar.
 
Do you ever shut up? I don't give a fuck about your pompous self righteousness.

I sure wish you would shut up and die; all you ever do is lower the IQ of any thread you engage in you fucking retard.

Damn you are one dumb arrogant ignorant stupid mother fucking asshole.
 
There are millions of pot smokers, most with better jobs than Taft.

Wrong; but then you're an uneducated uninformed pot head stuck on that special brand of idiot.

The comedic irony is that you’re glaring evidence of pots deleterious effect on the brain; you can’t even put together two grammatically correct coherent sentences.

What a laughable buffoon you are.
 
1. It did have to do with what Taft presented.

2. Non responsive. You have not countered my points. Who is the vicitm in the crime of marijuana possession? What is the state's interest in prohibiting it?

I already answered those questions for Dui and therefore your question about how it is a real crime.

3. Not in principle, no.

4. You are a loser.

1 - Only because you're so desperate to make it so.

2 - Where's the victim in driving while under the influence (DUI)?
You many have responded; but you've never given a reasonable explanation.

3 - Then why are you complaining?

4 - The real loser is usually the first one that tries to call the other side a loser. :)
 
Back
Top