Irish Republican charged with 29 murders in connection with Omagh bombing

Too many Irish children, for far too long, have listened to their half-cut parents reciting half-educated half-truths, which are believed by these good children as a result of a good Roman-Catholic half-education. It ends in the shedding of a great deal of blood, mostly other people's.

KILL CHILDREN FOR JESUS!
 
KILL CHILDREN FOR JESUS!

In fairness, the Easter Rising - a blood sacrifice without any hope of victory - was totally against RC theology, which is quietly forgotten now. Only the half-witted brutality of the English military moved people over to Sinn Fein. Irish nationalism, however, has, nevertheless, normally been the nationalism of Roman Catholics, as ours is linguistic, and religion is much better at getting people to die or - more important - kill.
 
Too many Irish children, for far too long, have listened to their half-cut parents reciting half-educated half-truths, which are believed by these good children as a result of a good Roman-Catholic half-education. It ends in the shedding of a great deal of blood, mostly other people's.

Whereas the bomb-throwing disciples of Ian Paisley, armed by the British, represent all that is right, good, and just.

This is where contemporary liberalism enters the equation:

government sponsored terrorism = good
 
Whereas the bomb-throwing disciples of Ian Paisley, armed by the British, represent all that is right, good, and just.

This is where contemporary liberalism enters the equation:

government sponsored terrorism = good

No - just the majority in an artificial state, created by the - justified - fear of an RC dictatorship - which quickly halved the Protestant population in the South. Government-sponsored terrorism in England by the yank government is okay by you, after all. You were allowed to pay for a great number of murders there, as you pretend not to know. But do not try to identify me with the English control of Ireland. We always gave a greater majority to Irish Home Rule than the Irish did, and some of my father's friends were IRA couriers in the 'thirties and 'forties. the difference is that we have a non-alcoholic view of the past.
 
No - just the majority in an artificial state, created by the - justified - fear of an RC dictatorship - which quickly halved the Protestant population in the South. Government-sponsored terrorism in England by the yank government is okay by you, after all. You were allowed to pay for a great number of murders there, as you pretend not to know. But do not try to identify me with the English control of Ireland. We always gave a greater majority to Irish Home Rule than the Irish did, and some of my father's friends were IRA couriers in the 'thirties and 'forties. the difference is that we have a non-alcoholic view of the past.

Riiiiiiight. :rolleyes:

So the Republic of Ireland is just a mirror image of the North, with a RC majority oppressing a Protestant minority. That's utter bullshit and you know it.

The British are just lucky these Catholics are white Europeans. If the Brits were doing this somewhere else, like South Africa, the world would never let them get away with this shit.
 
Riiiiiiight. :rolleyes:

So the Republic of Ireland is just a mirror image of the North, with a RC majority oppressing a Protestant minority. That's utter bullshit and you know it.

The British are just lucky these Catholics are white Europeans. If the Brits were doing this somewhere else, like South Africa, the world would never let them get away with this shit.

It isn't, because the South drove out the Protestants, or forced their conversion through mixed marriage their numbers falling from 13% to 6% by the War, and doubtless fewer now. The Roman Catholics in the North had - at least until recently - a higher birthrate, which is what causes the problem. Don't talk drivel about racism, kid; you are drunk with it over there, as even the English here just aren't. Stop believing whatever antique bullshit your drunken ancestors passed on and buy a history book, for God's sake. There are enough reasons for hate in the world without your faked-up history.
 
It isn't, because the South drove out the Protestants, or forced their conversion through mixed marriage their numbers falling from 13% to 6% by the War, and doubtless fewer now. The Roman Catholics in the North had - at least until recently - a higher birthrate, which is what causes the problem. Don't talk drivel about racism, kid; you are drunk with it over there, as even the English here just aren't. Stop believing whatever antique bullshit your drunken ancestors passed on and buy a history book, for God's sake. There are enough reasons for hate in the world without your faked-up history.

"Forced" through "mixed marriages"....lol. Never actually heard talk like that in person, although I did read about southern racists warning of the evils of "Miscegenatin'!" about 100 years ago. Glad to see it's still alive and well in the British Isles though. So Britain is not just about white supremacy, but WASP supremacy....

Shit. Even David Duke's Klan allowed Catholics in.

It must be comforting to be able to dismiss embarrassing national history as the opinion of drunkards. It is that sort of a subconscious defense mechanism? Does it work?

The British armed, excused, and even assisted loyalist terrorists in the north... That carries the mandate of the people and puts the sins on their heads. It was not simply "just the majority in an artificial state, created by the - justified - fear of an RC dictatorship - "
 
Yes I've heard that Angola prison is just like a country club these days!

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I hate to break it to you, tommy turd, but a picture of prisoners in Angola Prison in Louisiana has nothing to do with the overall standard of living in the rest of the United States!
 
"Forced" through "mixed marriages"....lol. Never actually heard talk like that in person, although I did read about southern racists warning of the evils of "Miscegenatin'!" about 100 years ago. Glad to see it's still alive and well in the British Isles though. So Britain is not just about white supremacy, but WASP supremacy....

Shit. Even David Duke's Klan allowed Catholics in.

It must be comforting to be able to dismiss embarrassing national history as the opinion of drunkards. It is that sort of a subconscious defense mechanism? Does it work?

The British armed, excused, and even assisted loyalist terrorists in the north... That carries the mandate of the people and puts the sins on their heads. It was not simply "just the majority in an artificial state, created by the - justified - fear of an RC dictatorship - "

You should look at the figures for killings in Northern Ireland, it was the IRA (in its various guises) that killed the most. Over half the murders were perpetrated by them including a fair proportion of Catholics. That is asides from all the barbaric punishments like kneecappings and tortures that they were responsible for as well.

Total KillingsProtestantCatholicNot from NI
IRA1696 (49%)790338568
UVF396 (11%)8926542
British Army299 (9%)322589
(unknown loyalist)212 (6%)502127
UFF149 (4%)171320
INLA110 (3%)553322
UDA102 (3%)41583
7727428
RUC569443
Official IRA5172420
PAF (loyalist)370370
'Real' IRA2911135
(others)11727873

http://www.wesleyjohnston.com/users/ireland/past/troubles/troubles_stats.html
 
Whereas the bomb-throwing disciples of Ian Paisley, armed by the British, represent all that is right, good, and just.

This is where contemporary liberalism enters the equation:

government sponsored terrorism = good

I'm getting confused. Are you saying that the Israelis are not good now?
 
Riiiiiiight. :rolleyes:

So the Republic of Ireland is just a mirror image of the North, with a RC majority oppressing a Protestant minority. That's utter bullshit and you know it.

The British are just lucky these Catholics are white Europeans. If the Brits were doing this somewhere else, like South Africa, the world would never let them get away with this shit.

I don't know, the far right regime in South Africa got away with it for many years, supported in their apartheid by what was the name of that country in the Middle East that supported South Africa? It'll come to me, maybe you know who it was!
 
It isn't, because the South drove out the Protestants, or forced their conversion through mixed marriage their numbers falling from 13% to 6% by the War, and doubtless fewer now. The Roman Catholics in the North had - at least until recently - a higher birthrate, which is what causes the problem. Don't talk drivel about racism, kid; you are drunk with it over there, as even the English here just aren't. Stop believing whatever antique bullshit your drunken ancestors passed on and buy a history book, for God's sake. There are enough reasons for hate in the world without your faked-up history.

My Protestant relatives left, the irony, my father converted to Catholism in order to marry my Catholic mother!
 
"Forced" through "mixed marriages"....lol. Never actually heard talk like that in person, although I did read about southern racists warning of the evils of "Miscegenatin'!" about 100 years ago. Glad to see it's still alive and well in the British Isles though. So Britain is not just about white supremacy, but WASP supremacy....

Shit. Even David Duke's Klan allowed Catholics in.

It must be comforting to be able to dismiss embarrassing national history as the opinion of drunkards. It is that sort of a subconscious defense mechanism? Does it work?

The British armed, excused, and even assisted loyalist terrorists in the north... That carries the mandate of the people and puts the sins on their heads. It was not simply "just the majority in an artificial state, created by the - justified - fear of an RC dictatorship - "

You force the minority to convert if they want to marry, you see, which is what papists do. The Irish nationalist movement, let me assure you, as myself a drinking man, is fuelled entirely by drink - except when it comes to senior officers of the IRA - I have spent a lot of time amongst 'em, and I know. What any British government does when faced with murder is a problem, not assisted by your financing murder, obviously. You live in 1830 or thereabouts on this issue, and it is a long time back. Read a book or two, then you might be worth hearing. The American habit of trying to force reality into support for 'teams' makes for great tedium when, like me for instance, you belong to none of them.
 
You force the minority to convert if they want to marry, you see, which is what papists do. The Irish nationalist movement, let me assure you, as myself a drinking man, is fuelled entirely by drink - except when it comes to senior officers of the IRA - I have spent a lot of time amongst 'em, and I know. What any British government does when faced with murder is a problem, not assisted by your financing murder, obviously. You live in 1830 or thereabouts on this issue, and it is a long time back. Read a book or two, then you might be worth hearing. The American habit of trying to force reality into support for 'teams' makes for great tedium when, like me for instance, you belong to none of them.

What you socialist statists will never quite get, is that in a free society churches get to make their own internal rules. To participate in the Roman Catholic sacrament of marriage, one must be a Roman Catholic. Nobody is *FORCED* to convert.

I'm sure you spent quite a bit of time "amongst 'em".... :rolleyes: Perhaps you aren't terribly familiar with the New York City of about 1977 thru about 1990....

I suppose the entire forum should just put you and Tom on "ignore" for any threads other than those dealing with the British Isles. Because we're "here", and you're "there". And being either here or there apparently trumps all facts and history in any discussion.

:rolleyes:
 
What you socialist statists will never quite get, is that in a free society churches get to make their own internal rules. To participate in the Roman Catholic sacrament of marriage, one must be a Roman Catholic. Nobody is *FORCED* to convert.

I'm sure you spent quite a bit of time "amongst 'em".... :rolleyes: Perhaps you aren't terribly familiar with the New York City of about 1977 thru about 1990....

I suppose the entire forum should just put you and Tom on "ignore" for any threads other than those dealing with the British Isles. Because we're "here", and you're "there". And being either here or there apparently trumps all facts and history in any discussion.

:rolleyes:
When a sect controls a state, it affects everyone. New York, let's face it, is not directly relevant to the Irish Republic, which I know rather well. You want to keep your ancestors' drunken notions alive, fair play, but those of us who have to live with the consequences would prefer you to know something about what you pay people to kill for. Murder is not very pleasant close to, honest.
 
You force the minority to convert if they want to marry, you see, which is what papists do. The Irish nationalist movement, let me assure you, as myself a drinking man, is fuelled entirely by drink - except when it comes to senior officers of the IRA - I have spent a lot of time amongst 'em, and I know. What any British government does when faced with murder is a problem, not assisted by your financing murder, obviously. You live in 1830 or thereabouts on this issue, and it is a long time back. Read a book or two, then you might be worth hearing. The American habit of trying to force reality into support for 'teams' makes for great tedium when, like me for instance, you belong to none of them.

These plastic paddies all seem to live in the 19th century, the potato famine and the Fenians. They are totally divorced from the realities of the situation which is why the IRA was able to get so much money for Semtex and guns from gullible Irish-Americans. Seemingly it takes a Welshman and a Englishman, born of Irish parents, to inject a little sanity and rationality.
 
I don't think anybody knows where you are at, man!! I know where you live though.

Do you tommy? I think not! The truth is somewhat other, the truth is you think you know where I live. Whether your assumption is correct or not is another thing entirely! In fact, I will have you corrected shortly!
 
When a sect controls a state, it affects everyone. New York, let's face it, is not directly relevant to the Irish Republic, which I know rather well. You want to keep your ancestors' drunken notions alive, fair play, but those of us who have to live with the consequences would prefer you to know something about what you pay people to kill for. Murder is not very pleasant close to, honest.

And yet when an alien sect controlled/controls the Irish state, that seems to not concern you, even though it amounts to imperialistic tyranny. The lack of self-awareness you limeys have borders on mental disorder. Do you ever think about what you're saying?

You're saying that people in a democratic republic opting to practice the religion of over 90% of the population is more tyrannical than a foreign nation invading that country, establishing a foreign state religion, and tithing the local population to support it.

My point about NYC during that era was that it was a common refuge for radical republicans to get smuggled into and lay low. In the right circles one often came into contact with them, Joe Doherty being the most well known from the era. So you "hung around with them".... big deal, who didn't?

And the people here who supported Noraid did so with their own dollars of their own minds. Unlike the British, who paid their taxes to pay for bullets being fired indiscriminately into crowds of demonstrators. Or drive-by shootings. Or to equip loyalist terrorist organizations.

No, we knew what we were funding. Unlike you limeys, who cling to the old imperialist notion that some of those foreign little people around the empire need a a good massacre now and then to keep them in line.
 
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