Ex-IRA commander Martin McGuinness WILL be a guest of the Queen at Windsor Castle

hahahahahahahahahahaha

I love to watch this!

"my mother's uncle"

Really, do tell!

I know, anything with "Queens" in the title! Or even a single Queen!

Unbelievable!

I suppose you missed the point where I said all of this connection stuff was irrelevant and meangingless, and that only the history and facts are relevant.

Yeah, you did. You're *THAT* stupid.
:rolleyes:
 
I suppose you missed the point where I said all of this connection stuff was irrelevant and meangingless, and that only the history and facts are relevant.

Yeah, you did. You're *THAT* stupid.
:rolleyes:

We can agree on that at least, Darla's personal lap dog is one dozy MF.
 
The problem is, one side doesn't want to seriously discuss the issue of a united Irish Republic, claiming a moral superiority over the other side. However, the moral superiority the British like the flaunt around doesn't exist. When they weren't employing terroristic tactics themselves, they were assisting paramilitary terrorist groups (Protestant paramilitary groups who were also included on the USA's terrorism watchlist) accumulate weaponry to carry out Britain's dirty work.

The British are quite good at keeping the discussion focused on the IRA, and blaming the lack of a united Irish Republic on them. In the world of soundbite foreign policy on mass media, this has been largely successful.

However, when the discussion has to continue longer (as it has here), that accepted perception can not stand up to historical truths, and a moral equality emerges. Perhaps even worse on Britain's side, because their support and practice of terrorism carries a mandate of the people with it.

So when the discussion reaches moral equivalence, then what? Then Tom and company raise the specter of loyalist paramilitary violence as a reaction to a united Ireland, after condemning republican paramilitary violence as a reaction to occupation and partition for nearly a century. That simply means the alleged moral superiors will continue the terrorist violence if a united Irish Republic is founded.

And really, who is more likely to be living as a second-class citizen in their own country:

1) a Catholic in Derry?
or
2) a Protestant in Dublin?

The only threat a united Irish Republic poses to the loyalists is that their privileged status, and ability to subjugate the majority native peoples, will be gone. Just as they can no longer strut through the streets of Bombay in white linen suits and pith helmets and be called "Sahib" by the native peoples. The empire is gone. It's over. Give it up already.

Sounds a lot like the Israelis and the Palestinians!
 
We can agree on that at least, Darla's personal lap dog is one dozy MF.

Of course you can! But at least I don't defend rapists and wife beaters, or seek vigilante lynch law justice for Black people and tell the board that every fucking new poster is you fetish boy!

And I don't continue to do so after the mods have already said who it was and it was identified as your close fiend the farm animal.

Is it true that you are the man that Ray Davies, referred to in Muswell Hillbillies?
 
Of course you can! But at least I don't defend rapists and wife beaters, or seek vigilante lynch law justice for Black people and tell the board that every fucking new poster is you fetish boy!

And I don't continue to do so after the mods have already said who it was and it was identified as your close fiend the farm animal.

Is it true that you are the man that Ray Davies, referred to in Muswell Hillbillies?

Holy shit you are one stupid mother!! You have to be seriously loaded to live in Muswell Hill these days.

http://www.foxtons.co.uk/living-in/muswell-hill/house-prices/
 
I suppose you missed the point where I said all of this connection stuff was irrelevant and meangingless, and that only the history and facts are relevant.

Yeah, you did. You're *THAT* stupid.
:rolleyes:

Actually your two posts using your connections to show how irrelevant they are to the discussion are an attempt to make them relevant by their irrelevancy. Otherwise there would be no reason to bring them into at all!
 
The problem is, one side doesn't want to seriously discuss the issue of a united Irish Republic, claiming a moral superiority over the other side. However, the moral superiority the British like the flaunt around doesn't exist. When they weren't employing terroristic tactics themselves, they were assisting paramilitary terrorist groups (Protestant paramilitary groups who were also included on the USA's terrorism watchlist) accumulate weaponry to carry out Britain's dirty work.

The British are quite good at keeping the discussion focused on the IRA, and blaming the lack of a united Irish Republic on them. In the world of soundbite foreign policy on mass media, this has been largely successful.

However, when the discussion has to continue longer (as it has here), that accepted perception can not stand up to historical truths, and a moral equality emerges. Perhaps even worse on Britain's side, because their support and practice of terrorism carries a mandate of the people with it.

So when the discussion reaches moral equivalence, then what? Then Tom and company raise the specter of loyalist paramilitary violence as a reaction to a united Ireland, after condemning republican paramilitary violence as a reaction to occupation and partition for nearly a century. That simply means the alleged moral superiors will continue the terrorist violence if a united Irish Republic is founded.

And really, who is more likely to be living as a second-class citizen in their own country:

1) a Catholic in Derry?
or
2) a Protestant in Dublin?

The only threat a united Irish Republic poses to the loyalists is that their privileged status, and ability to subjugate the majority native peoples, will be gone. Just as they can no longer strut through the streets of Bombay in white linen suits and pith helmets and be called "Sahib" by the native peoples. The empire is gone. It's over. Give it up already.
the only irish. I know personally (they live in Belfast and are Cathilic) are obviously mindful of it and would prefer a unified Ireland. But they also see that its well past the darkest days and are thankful for it. Colloquial of course but real. Bunus points for working dahib in there by the eau
Yes the English are loth to surrender NI as well as Scotland apparemtly for the revenue though they cry othetwise. Lot of generations of paracitic tendency to overcome and the empire is all but gone. But the bulldog still wants to eat so it growls while it still has teeth.
me i just want peace for those folks.
 
I suppose you missed the point where I said all of this connection stuff was irrelevant and meangingless, and that only the history and facts are relevant.

Yeah, you did. You're *THAT* stupid.
:rolleyes:
Hey Taffy, things are looking up for you! Queens is the new Brooklyn. Maybe some yuppie will buy the tenement you live in and let you continue to rent there, but I doubt it.
 
How insightful. Have any thoughts on the thread topic ?
Been posting them. Read much? It is obvious you don't write much, or well at least. How about activating your spell check so it is a little less work figuring out what you are trying to say?
 
the only irish. I know personally (they live in Belfast and are Cathilic) are obviously mindful of it and would prefer a unified Ireland. But they also see that its well past the darkest days and are thankful for it. Colloquial of course but real. Bunus points for working dahib in there by the eau
Yes the English are loth to surrender NI as well as Scotland apparemtly for the revenue though they cry othetwise. Lot of generations of paracitic tendency to overcome and the empire is all but gone. But the bulldog still wants to eat so it growls while it still has teeth.
me i just want peace for those folks.

What revenue? Both Northern Ireland and Scotland are heavy drains on the taxpayer. If the referendum on Scottish independence included English voters they would be set adrift without any doubt. Same with Northern Ireland, that's why all this bullshit about British imperialism is so amusing.
 
Quiet Man is a great movie. I watched it again on St. Paddy's Day.

Actually, we Americans do not have a rosy picture of Ireland in our heads. On the contrary, we have a hellish picture of Ireland on account of you fucking Limeys going in there and treating the people as Henry VIII treated his wives.

I have a negative picture and it has nothing to do with the British and everything to do with a conservative, patriarchal and religious society that fostered abominations like the Magdalene Laundries.
 
I have a negative picture and it has nothing to do with the British and everything to do with a conservative, patriarchal and religious society that fostered abominations like the Magdalene Laundries.

Take it from me it was an awful bloody place, run by corrupt parish pump politicians, paedophile priests and psycho nuns. If you were a woman then it was especially horrific as there was no birth control, abortion or family planning. If you wanted an abortion then you went to England, these idiots on here have absolutely no idea how bad it was for the poor bastards that had to live there. That's why everyone of my female first cousins ended up in England because life over there was so bad.
 
Take it from me it was an awful bloody place, run by corrupt parish pump politicians, paedophile priests and psycho nuns. If you were a woman then it was especially horrific as there was no birth control, abortion or family planning. If you wanted an abortion then you went to England, these idiots on here have absolutely no idea how bad it was for the poor bastards that had to live there. That's why everyone of my female first cousins ended up in England because life over there was so bad.

Ireland was hell because there were no abortions or family planning? Who are you anyway? Sandra O'Fluke?
 
Again, Tom, America has no bucolic paradisical view of Ireland. We all know that England ravaged it for centuries.

Catholic priests, nuns and de Valera held the country back, if you went to Ireland and ask they will tell you that is true. I went to a primary school run by psychotic Irish nuns in England so I know what I am talking about, they would all be locked up today for what they did to the kids.
 
Catholic priests, nuns and de Valera held the country back, if you went to Ireland and ask they will tell you that is true. I went to a primary school run by psychotic Irish nuns in England so I know what I am talking about, they would all be locked up today for what they did to the kids.

At long last, an explanation.
 
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