Mozilla CEO resigns after donation to Prop 8

[Timshel]

They do. If someone feels they are wrongfully terminated their recourse is to file a complaint and or sek legal recourse.

Well, then what stops them from claiming that the damage to their image harms their ability to be profitable?

Who the heck are they filing a complaint with? It sounds as if you are arguing that a court or bureaucracy would ultimately decide whether it harms their ability to be profitable.

 

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You are like a Republican in dropping of context, goalpost moving and intellectual dishonesty.

I did not say you agreed with any of those positions, idiot. I was remarking on the fact that conservatives and libertarians differ on economics.

the point you fucking retard is that you continue to say that I am not a libertarian... so therefore you ARE saying that I don't agree with those positions. Which is why you are full of shit. Now that you realize you are full of shit, you cannot back up anything you stated.

 

[J Craft]

Well, then what stops them from claiming that the damage to their image harms their ability to be profitable?

Who the heck are they filing a complaint with? It sounds as if you are arguing that a court or bureaucracy would ultimately decide whether it harms their ability to be profitable.

People hire employment attorneys all the time for labor complaints. I'm not arguing anything, just communicating what I believe the rights of an employer should be vs the rights of an employee with regards to termination.

 

[Timshel]

the point you fucking retard is that you continue to say that I am not a libertarian... so therefore you ARE saying that I don't agree with those positions. Which is why you are full of shit. Now that you realize you are full of shit, you cannot back up anything you stated.

No, moron, the point I was clearly making is that libertarains are not fiscally conservative and so the fiscally conservative socially liberal description of libertarians is not quite accurate or is imprecise. You just are not libertarian. There are way too many reasons to list but we can start with your rejection of freedom of association and your apparent belief that one has a property right in their job.

 

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No, moron, the point I was clearly making is that libertarains are not fiscally conservative and so the fiscally conservative socially liberal description of libertarians is not quite accurate or is imprecise. You just are not libertarian. There are way too many reasons to list but we can start with your rejection of freedom of association and your apparent belief that one has a property right in their job.

lmao... so NOW libertarians aren't fiscally conservative? fucking hilarious. Funny how you cant list the differences. You just keep shouting about freedom of association and pretending you comprehend what Libertarians views are. You have proven yet again that you are a fake libertarian.

Not fiscally conservative... lmao... you fuckn retard

 

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come on little String... list some of the ways... try to spin your way out of your current idiocy

 

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what economic positions do you think libertarians and I differ on? Besides abortion... what social policies?

 

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who wants to bet that this is the point where String runs away?

 

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i will check back tomorrow for your list String... if you aren't in hiding

 

[Timshel]

People hire employment attorneys all the time for labor complaints. I'm not arguing anything, just communicating what I believe the rights of an employer should be vs the rights of an employee with regards to termination.

Yes, you are arguing that the state should determine whether a business was legitimately seeking to protect its revenues in firing an employee.

 

[Timshel]

lmao... so NOW libertarians aren't fiscally conservative? fucking hilarious. Funny how you cant list the differences. You just keep shouting about freedom of association and pretending you comprehend what Libertarians views are. You have proven yet again that you are a fake libertarian.

Not fiscally conservative... lmao... you fuckn retard

I already listed the fucking differences you ignoramous. Again, Conservatives reject free markets when it comes to sex and the drug trade. They are also more likely to support farm subsidies, trade barriers and corporate bailouts.

You just keep shouting "group think" and ignore the many references I have provided PROVING my point. Your argument is completely unsubstantiated and without merit.

 

[Timshel]

i will check back tomorrow for your list String... if you aren't in hiding

I already provided the list, nitwit but you are constantly spinning, dropping context and moving the goalposts. The argument that libertarians and conservatives don't agree fiscally is not the same as the argument that you and libertarians don't agree. But I have given examples of both and all you are doing is running away from those examples. You have provided nothing to substantiate your claims.

 

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I already listed the fucking differences you ignoramous. Again, Conservatives reject free markets when it comes to sex and the drug trade. They are also more likely to support farm subsidies, trade barriers and corporate bailouts.

You just keep shouting "group think" and ignore the many references I have provided PROVING my point. Your argument is completely unsubstantiated and without merit.

No String... you JUST got done telling me that you were simply listing the differences between libertarians and conservatives/Republicans. You specifically stated you weren't talking about me. Yet you keep saying I am not libertarian, but rather Republican.

So tell us String... THIS time are you saying that I 'reject' free markets with respect to drugs/sex? Are you saying that in the past ten years you have heard me saying I support subsidies, trade barriers and bailouts?

Come on String... don't be your normal cowardly self... tell me which of the above positions you are claiming that I differ from Libertarians on.

 

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I already provided the list, nitwit but you are constantly spinning, dropping context and moving the goalposts. The argument that libertarians and conservatives don't agree fiscally is not the same as the argument that you and libertarians don't agree. But I have given examples of both and all you are doing is running away from those examples. You have provided nothing to substantiate your claims.

No String... you have not provided examples... you continue to run away when I ask you to do so. You give some nonsense about how 'I already did that'... it should be easy for you to simply tell me which post or to repeat your accusations. Obviously you and I disagree on libertarians views on this topic... but tell me what others. What social issues other than abortion? What economic issues do I disagree with Libertarians on? Come on String... don't run away... you want to make accusations... back them the fuck up.

 

[J Craft]

Yes, you are arguing that the state should determine whether a business was legitimately seeking to protect its revenues in firing an employee.

No, the state has ALWAYS adressed the legitimacy of a termination if someone brings it before them. There is no argument.

 

[Timshel]

No String... you JUST got done telling me that you were simply listing the differences between libertarians and conservatives/Republicans. You specifically stated you weren't talking about me. Yet you keep saying I am not libertarian, but rather Republican.

So tell us String... THIS time are you saying that I 'reject' free markets with respect to drugs/sex? Are you saying that in the past ten years you have heard me saying I support subsidies, trade barriers and bailouts?

Come on String... don't be your normal cowardly self... tell me which of the above positions you are claiming that I differ from Libertarians on.

Yes, I did and I repeated them. Here it is again, the fiscally CONSERVATIVE often reject free markets when it comes to sex and the drug trade. They are also more likely to support farm subsidies, trade barriers and corporate bailouts. YOU reject of freedom of association and apparently believe that one has a property right in their job (just for starters).

It's real easy to cut and paste from the same page so we can continue this as long as you want to run away and hide from the points.

You don't understand libertarianism and you have provided no libertarian sources or even third party sources to back up your claims. I gave you the platform, statement from a former Chairman of the LP while he was serving as the Chairman and referenced the arguments of Murray Rothbard. Rand made the same sort of arguments. There are plenty of others.

All you are bringing is some knee jerk partisan bullshit about Obama. You are a Republican.

 

[Timshel]

No, the state has ALWAYS adressed the legitimacy of a termination if someone brings it before them. There is no argument.

No, they have not. Unless the termination breaches a contract or violates some law there is no case to bring.

 

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Yes, I did and I repeated them. Here it is again, the fiscally CONSERVATIVE often reject free markets when it comes to sex and the drug trade. They are also more likely to support farm subsidies, trade barriers and corporate bailouts. YOU reject of freedom of association and apparently believe that one has a property right in their job (just for starters).

LMAO... so again... none of those things do I differ from Libertarians. You just proclaim that fiscally conservative people reject free markets for sex and drugs. Why would a fiscally conservative person do that String? Do you even understand the words you are using? I do not reject freedom of association... you are simply misconstruing what Libertarians actually think about it.

It's real easy to cut and paste from the same page so we can continue this as long as you want to run away and hide from the points.

Yeah... which is why it is funny that you continue to claim that I am not libertarian, yet the only thing you can point to is that we disagree on freedom of association and what it means to Libertarians. Every other point you CLAIM to have made you reference conservatives and not MY beliefs. Because you know you are wrong.

You don't understand libertarianism and you have provided no libertarian sources or even third party sources to back up your claims. I gave you the platform, statement from a former Chairman of the LP while he was serving as the Chairman and referenced the arguments of Murray Rothbard. Rand made the same sort of arguments. There are plenty of others.

All you are bringing is some knee jerk partisan bullshit about Obama. You are a Republican.[/QUOTE]

LMAO... again with your bullshit accusations... yet you still refuse to point out how I differ... other than abortion and your 'opinion' on how libertarians view this issue.

http://www.lp.org/platform

As Libertarians, we seek a world of liberty; a world in which all individuals are sovereign over their own lives and no one is forced to sacrifice his or her values for the benefit of others.

Now tell us String... in the Mozilla case... who was being forced to sacrifice his or her values?

 

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We hold that all individuals have the right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives, and have the right to live in whatever manner they choose, so long as they do not forcibly interfere with the equal right of others to live in whatever manner they choose.

hmmm...

 

[Bonestorm]

I'm literally LOLing.