The first woman President

Then there are people who say one should never be a single issue voter because it shows a lack of intelligence.
 
I am NEVER a single issue voter. I look at the platforms of both parties and decide which one best suits my way of thinking across the spectrum of issues, then I vote for that party's candidates.
 
XLVIII DOMINATORS said:
No one disagreed with her "in context quote", she saw all sides; she said a "unilateral" attack was not a good option and that's why she supported and voted yes on a "coalition force".Yes, she voted on a coalition invasion of Iraq , just as did the GOP.

So the point of your post was?

My point was to dissuade the previous poster of Hillary's being anti hawkish.
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I'm always a little baffled when cons bring up that Hillary quote and believe me, we've seen it too many times to count. Are you guys using it as a compliment or an insult? Hillary's a lot more hawkish than I prefer and it's a black mark against her when I lay out the pros and cons of her possible candidacy. However, cons supported the Iraq war overwhelmingly v. liberals so since Hillary ended up voting for it didn't that make you guys like her better? Cons are way more hawkish than libs so why don't you admire her for sticking to her principles?
 
christiefan915 said:
I'm always a little baffled when cons bring up that Hillary quote and believe me, we've seen it too many times to count. Are you guys using it as a compliment or an insult? Hillary's a lot more hawkish than I prefer and it's a black mark against her when I lay out the pros and cons of her possible candidacy. However, cons supported the Iraq war overwhelmingly v. liberals so since Hillary ended up voting for it didn't that make you guys like her better? Cons are way more hawkish than libs so why don't you admire her for sticking to her principles?
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I can see that it might be confusing for an anti liberal to point out that Hillary is only as liberal or conservative as the political wind warrants.

But the question I posed was not answered. Hillary voted for invasion in Iraq just as did her GOP counterparts and 28 of her fellow democrats. So what was your point in providing what you believed to be context?
 
she voted to give the president the ability to use force as a last resort, but clearly believed that doing so short of the "last resort" - which he did - was not prudent.
 
maineman said:
she voted to give the president the ability to use force as a last resort, but clearly believed that doing so short of the "last resort" - which he did - was not prudent.
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Show where the wording contained the phrase "as a last resort", unless this just another lie of yours.
 
read the congressional record. Democrats, in their floor speeches were quite clear that the use of force was only to be used as a last resort.
 
What 29 democrats and 48 republicans voted yes on.


The resolution authorized President Bush to use the Armed Forces of the United States "as he determines to be necessary and appropriate" in order to "defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq; and enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council Resolutions regarding Iraq."
 
XLVIII DOMINATORS said:
What 29 democrats and 48 republicans voted yes on.


The resolution authorized President Bush to use the Armed Forces of the United States "as he determines to be necessary and appropriate" in order to "defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq; and enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council Resolutions regarding Iraq."
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a majority of congressional democrats voted against that resolution, and I will NEVER vote for any democrat who voted for it unless they have apologized for that vote.
 
maineman said:
a majority of congressional democrats voted against that resolution, and I will NEVER vote for any democrat who voted for it unless they have apologized for that vote.
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Hahaha! "I'm so sorry, I didn't mean that vote -honest injun."
 
XLVIII DOMINATORS said:
I can see that it might be confusing for an anti liberal to point out that Hillary is only as liberal or conservative as the political wind warrants.

But the question I posed was not answered. Hillary voted for invasion in Iraq just as did her GOP counterparts and 28 of her fellow democrats. So what was your point in providing what you believed to be context?
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The relevant posts in order. The word "hawk" wasn't even mentioned until you posted #12. When you dropped context in #9 it was a pretense and had nothing to do with Maineman's comment about taunting. Hillary laid out reasons for an invasion but her final comment was that "based on present facts a unilateral attack wasn't a good option." All of this was before the vote was taken. You moved the goalposts and are now trying to justify post #9.

5. Maineman: I doubt a woman would have taunted the Iraqi insurgents with "bring em on" while our troops were in harm's way, for example.
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9. XLVIII: "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002
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12. XLVIII: Hillary The Hawk
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29. christie: <rest of speech> ending with "So Mr. President, for all its appeal, a unilateral attack, while it cannot be ruled out, on the present facts is not a good option."
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36. XLVIII No one disagreed with her "in context quote", she saw all sides; she said a "unilateral" attack was not a good option and that's why she supported and voted yes on a "coalition force".Yes, she voted on a coalition invasion of Iraq , just as did the GOP.

So the point of your post was?

My point was to dissuade the previous poster of Hillary's being anti hawkish.
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85. christie: I'm always a little baffled when cons bring up that Hillary quote and believe me, we've seen it too many times to count. Are you guys using it as a compliment or an insult? Hillary's a lot more hawkish than I prefer and it's a black mark against her when I lay out the pros and cons of her possible candidacy. However, cons supported the Iraq war overwhelmingly v. liberals so since Hillary ended up voting for it didn't that make you guys like her better? Cons are way more hawkish than libs so why don't you admire her for sticking to her principles?
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87. XLVIII: I can see that it might be confusing for an anti liberal to point out that Hillary is only as liberal or conservative as the political wind warrants.

But the question I posed was not answered. Hillary voted for invasion in Iraq just as did her GOP counterparts and 28 of her fellow democrats. So what was your point in providing what you believed to be context?
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To wit of the long diatribe.

I inserted the word hawk because IMO the poster I responded to implied Hillary was not one. My posts were nothing more than support of my opinion that she most definitely is one when it SUITS her politically. Nothing more and nothing less.
 
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she might be a hawk.... but she's still smart enough not to taunt our enemies when our troops are in their gunsights. and she did NOT think that the invasion prior to allowing the weapons inspectors a chance to tell us what we now know, was a good idea. Neither did I.
 
maineman said:
I am NEVER a single issue voter. I look at the platforms of both parties and decide which one best suits my way of thinking across the spectrum of issues, then I vote for that party's candidates.
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LMAO; another grand lie; you don't give the OTHER platform a parting glance; you're a hyper partisan straight party line voter if there ever was one. You constantly cheer how "Democrats" are winning; even though that is a painfully stupid claim itself.
 
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