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Granule said:
You have the right to not practice my religion. You do not have the right to impose secular law on a Christian nation. This little bullshit tirade you perverts are waging is a flash in the pan. Be prepared to drink from the same traditional fountain, or don't drink at all. ;)
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Well yes we do because #1. We are a secular nation, that is our government is a secular one, and #2. The Constitution says we can since it is secular law.
 
Celticguy said:
And in the matter of the cake kerfuffle, it does.
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This is a difficult issue for all concerned. We live in a multi-cultural, multi-ethnic world... lots of different religions, lots of people with no religion....

for me, "practicing my religion" in that sort of world is really a matter of how I conduct myself in my relationship with God, and with others. Practicing my religion can't really be about demanding that everyone worship the way I do or even worship at all. For me, it has to be about me remembering what Jesus said... remembering what commandments HE thought we the most important, and me trying to live my life as close to that path as I can live it, given my inherently sinful nature. Jesus said there were two really important ones... one from Deuteronomy - love the Lord with all your heart and soul and mind... and one from Leviticus - love your neighbor as yourself. On those hang all the laws and the prophets. Do those two really well, and everything else will fall into place. I can't imagine operating a cake business as a Christian and not just wanting all my customers to be happy and to love my product... If I thought they were traveling down the wrong path, I'd pray for them, but I certainly would sell them a cake. How is refusing to sell gay people a cake, or dinner in your restaurant helping you love the Lord with all your heart and soul and mind and to love your neighbor as yourself?
 
maineman said:
This is a difficult issue for all concerned. We live in a multi-cultural, multi-ethnic world... lots of different religions, lots of people with no religion....

for me, "practicing my religion" in that sort of world is really a matter of how I conduct myself in my relationship with God, and with others. Practicing my religion can't really be about demanding that everyone worship the way I do or even worship at all. For me, it has to be about me remembering what Jesus said... remembering what commandments HE thought we the most important, and me trying to live my life as close to that path as I can live it, given my inherently sinful nature. Jesus said there were two really important ones... one from Deuteronomy - love the Lord with all your heart and soul and mind... and one from Leviticus - love your neighbor as yourself. On those hang all the laws and the prophets. Do those two really well, and everything else will fall into place. I can't imagine operating a cake business as a Christian and not just wanting all my customers to be happy and to love my product... If I thought they were traveling down the wrong path, I'd pray for them, but I certainly would sell them a cake. How is refusing to sell gay people a cake, or dinner in your restaurant helping you love the Lord with all your heart and soul and mind and to love your neighbor as yourself?
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Its not a cake they wanted, it was a wedding cake. Providing a wedding cake when you cannot condone that as a marriage would not be loving.God as it represents condoning sin.
 
Celticguy said:
Its not a cake they wanted, it was a wedding cake. Providing a wedding cake when you cannot condone that as a marriage would not be loving.God as it represents condoning sin.
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No... it is not condoning sin... it is merely accepting the fact that, in this world, not everyone's moral compass points the same way yours does.... and loving them nonetheless.
 
maineman said:
No... it is not condoning sin... it is merely accepting the fact that, in this world, not everyone's moral compass points the same way yours does.... and loving them nonetheless.
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No. Not a moral e ergo sin. Moneychanging in the Temple was a sin so Jesus could not condone it and went further as to remove it.
 
Celticguy said:
Its not a cake they wanted, it was a wedding cake. Providing a wedding cake when you cannot condone that as a marriage would not be loving.God as it represents condoning sin.
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It's a fucking wedding cake, if they don't want to condone sin maybe they should get out of the wedding business all together. Divorce is a sin and about 50% of weddings end in divorce so they are condoning that sin too aren't they i you want to get into sin and shit and how fucked up believing in ghosts and shit is! But for all that, if they are selling wedding cakes they shouldn't give a shit gay people aren't going to stop being gay or be more gay because some shop won't sell them a damn wedding cake!
 
maineman said:
No... it is not condoning sin... it is merely accepting the fact that, in this world, not everyone's moral compass points the same way yours does.... and loving them nonetheless.
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Selling someone a product has nothing to do with loving that someone, it has everything to do with loving money or at least needing it!
 
SmarterthanYou said:
I could also say that spaying and neutering your pets is based on religion, that does not make it so.
of what?
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You stupid fool who gas the audacity to refer to yourself as smarterthanyou, there is only one document that I know of that is referred to in those terms and that is the US Constitution you idiot! Smarterthanyou...not fucking hardly! What a marooon!
 
SmarterthanYou said:
here's the thing with that, though, you aren't being forced to practice my religion if I put up a display in a public place.
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I am already being forced to deal with your shit by being on this fucking board with you! There is just no getting away from you religious fanatics You come to my door, you stuff shit in my mailbox, leave shit on my porch. And have churches all over the damn place. I can't go ten blocks in any direction without running into another damn church. It's fucking ridiculous. If fucking prayer worked it would seem to me that the world would be a perfect place by now, unless people are praying for it to be this fucked up!
 
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