Emmett Till / Trayvon Martin - An Awakening to Racist Evil in America

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Thing1 said:
Hey, it happens.

I can't believe some of the shite that she, you, tekky, Rana, et al. have expounded on the past few days. I really can't.

So yeah - it's been an eye-opener. I don't really believe that Darla lacks intelligence - she's articulate & one of the best writers here. But her opinions & posts on this issue have betrayed that intelligence. And she has crossed some lines that you can really never get back over again.
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No Oncelor, it is you that crossed those lines, and may never come back.

Darla has been steadfast and honest all along and hasn't changed a bit, which is why the rightie tighties are so scared of her and often hateful.
Now, you have joined them, which should be, in itself, enough to tell you HOW FUCKING WRONG YOU ARE.
 
Superfreak said:
Yes, I have. I understand the racial injustices within our court system. Both with convictions and with sentencing. But when looking at the prosecutions case, LEGALLY the jury had little choice but to acquit.
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If you TRULY understand the racial injustices within our system, how do you so blindly defend what is 'legal' in a racist environment?

I asked you if you understood what I as a black father, who TRULY understands the injustices within the system, feel about this? I'm not asking you what you felt about the case, I'm asking you if you think I'm human, with strong emotions for the safety of my children?

Do you think I'm looney because I have strong feelings about this issue and see Trayvon Martin as I see one of my own?

Obviously I am a white guy... so my perception on the above is different. I simply do not see how this case is like the Till case, other than the fact the two victims were black teens. Till's murder was premeditated and based on pure hate. I know you think the Martin case is the same, but I am missing the evidence that it shows it was either premeditated or based on hate. Was he profiled? Yes. But in the past, Zimmerman had shown a reluctance to get close enough for a confrontation. That is evidenced by his previous 911 calls. This time it happened and as a result Martin died. It is tragic for certain. But that doesn't change what the prosecution presented. Based on that, I don't think the jury could do anything else under the law.
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You don't want it to be like the Till case because you're a white guy who wants to support the decision .. and because you begin with that perspective, you can't see what is blindingly clear to those who actually know and have lived that history. How do you ignore that and claim you know better than those who lived it? How?

That comparison is being made all over the planet .. because it's obvious.

You claim to know of the racism that exists in this country and Florida .. and I believe that you do .. yet, you ignore that there is all manner of evidence that could have EASILY convicted Zimmerman. EASILY. You ignore the disparities between success in 'stand your ground' defenses. You ignore that racism very well could have played a role in this case.

Most importantly, you ignore the truth that it isn't about the law .. it never is .. it's about the application of the law.

Case in point .. white people are the biggest drug users, sellers, and importers of illegal drugs than any other group in America .. BY FAR. Yet, that is not reflected in arrests, prosecutions, parole, or sentencing. Why is that? Same laws, same courts.

It's not about the law, it's about equal application which rarely happen in this country.

Sanford tried and convicted Trayvon Martin of being a threat because he was black.

Which is why the Black Caucus in DC is trying to get the laws changed with regards to profiling etc...
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Fuck them. This should have been on the top of their agenda long before this case.

To be fair to 'this side of the fence' ... it is hard to debate when out of the gate we are called racists and told that it is because of 'white privilege'.
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How about you don't go there? You can't be serious when you know what's being said about 'liberals' on your side of the fence. I'm not whining about any of that, so you shouldn't go there either in THIS conversation
 
Rune said:
No Oncelor, it is you that crossed those lines, and may never come back.

Darla has been steadfast and honest all along and hasn't changed a bit, which is why the rightie tighties are so scared of her and often hateful.
Now, you have joined them, which should be, in itself, enough to tell you HOW FUCKING WRONG YOU ARE.
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Yeah - so wrong to defend myself against charges of racism.

Do you see racism as a serious issue, Rune?
 
I would like to point out super sure seems invested in restoring thingys reputation as a left leaning poster.


what would he gain?


Its clear he all of the sudden is protecting thingy instead of trying to win him over and separate him from his left leaning beliefs.

Instead hes trying to help him restore his standing
 
evince said:
I would like to point out super sure seems invested in restoring thingys reputation as a left leaning poster.


what would he gain?


Its clear he all of the sudden is protecting thingy instead of trying to win him over and separate him from his left leaning beliefs.

Instead hes trying to help him restore his standing
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Cue Rod Serling.

Your attitude on this is also divisive, btw. Either someone agrees w/ us 100%...or they are "the enemy."
 
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evince said:
I would like to point out super sure seems invested in restoring thingys reputation as a left leaning poster.


what would he gain?


Its clear he all of the sudden is protecting thingy instead of trying to win him over and separate him from his left leaning beliefs.

Instead hes trying to help him restore his standing
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Good grief. Really? You really think Lorax is a conservative plant on this board? A real hero of the left here ... :rolleyes:
 
Rune said:
Then you have completed your total transformation into a complete asshole.

Darla is the best poster on the entire forum, and you know it.

That is why you were so crushed that she pointed out your failure.
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Gi9ve me strength, you are truly an appalling arse licker.
 
I'm happy to have my politics confound certain posters.

The minute that any party or group of partisans thinks "he's ours - we can put him back in line to march w/ us"...well, that would be a bad day.
 
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