palm beach police pump 115 rounds in to person who never shot at them

ZappasGuitar said:
Tell ya what?

All you've got to do is find one single quote from me saying I want ONLY the police to have guns and I will apologize.

You say I don't make myself clear and should try harder to explain...just show me where I've EVER stated that cops should be the ONLY ones with guns.

I bet you can't.

I bet this was just more partisan sniping because you don't agree with my opinions.
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we've gone this route before as well. you do everything BUT say that only cops and military should have guns. you throw every insult imaginable, even about 72 year old men watching out for his neighbors property. you're the typical hoplophobe anti gun male. http://www.jewishworldreview.com/julia/gorin030802.asp
 
SmarterthanYou said:
we've gone this route before as well. you do everything BUT say that only cops and military should have guns. you throw every insult imaginable, even about 72 year old men watching out for his neighbors property. you're the typical hoplophobe anti gun male. http://www.jewishworldreview.com/julia/gorin030802.asp
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Just as we expected...you can't show me ever stating only the police should have guns, and in fact let me spell it out for you...

PRIVATE CITIZENS SHOULD CERTAINLY BE ALLOWED TO NOT ONLY OWN BUT ALSO CARRY FIREARMS.

The old man was a fool for going outside carrying a gun while the police were searching his neighborhood.

But that's what a gun does to so many...It gives them false bravado and makes them think they are invincible.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
Just as we expected...you can't show me ever stating only the police should have guns, and in fact let me spell it out for you...

PRIVATE CITIZENS SHOULD CERTAINLY BE ALLOWED TO NOT ONLY OWN BUT ALSO CARRY FIREARMS.
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great, but your statements below show that you believe it to be stupid and shouldn't be done.

ZappasGuitar said:
The old man was a fool for going outside carrying a gun while the police were searching his neighborhood.

But that's what a gun does to so many...It gives them false bravado and makes them think they are invincible.
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the old man had no idea that cops were searching the neighborhood and in fact appear to have not identified themselves.

see zap, you have this preconceived idea that since cops are the paid professionals, trained to keep order (which is debatable), that only they are the ones qualified to do this kind of thing. nothing could be further from the truth, but then again we all know that you believe the government is better qualified to control us than we are to control ourselves.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
great, but your statements below show that you believe it to be stupid and shouldn't be done.

the old man had no idea that cops were searching the neighborhood and in fact appear to have not identified themselves.

see zap, you have this preconceived idea that since cops are the paid professionals, trained to keep order (which is debatable), that only they are the ones qualified to do this kind of thing. nothing could be further from the truth, but then again we all know that you believe the government is better qualified to control us than we are to control ourselves.
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The old man would have known police were in the area if he'd called police instead of thinking he could handle the situation on his own.

And I'm sorry but if a cop wheels and sees someone standing in the dark holding a gun, he's going to shoot...tell me you wouldn't if you found a stranger on your property waving a gun around?
 
ZappasGuitar said:
The old man would have known police were in the area if he'd called police instead of thinking he could handle the situation on his own.
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when seconds count, the police are just MINUTES away.......see, police almost ALWAYS arrive AFTER the crime has happened. WE are the true first responders.

ZappasGuitar said:
And I'm sorry but if a cop wheels and sees someone standing in the dark holding a gun, he's going to shoot...tell me you wouldn't if you found a stranger on your property waving a gun around?
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no, I wouldn't just shoot. I'm way more level headed and tactical than that, but that's just me. see, people call me a nutcase because I train with paramilitary tactics. seems to me that you think police are 'highly' trained, so why would you expect THEM to just shoot first and ask questions later????
 
SmarterthanYou said:
http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2013/04/man_hit_with_115_police_rounds.php



several bystanders had cell phones recording this incident, they were then forced to turn over cell phones at gunpoint, which police summarily deleted or destroyed.
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Once again I actually WATCHED your clip. You constantly talk about police force like it shouldn't happen to criminals, generally on drug dealers.

In this video you can hear the person taking the video state that the driver was shooting at people before the police shot at him.

In the last video you posted you stated the police stormed a house and shot an innocent "drug dealer" yet the video clearly indicated (just like this one) that the criminal fired first.

You are simply thriving on the fact that the cops all open fired after they saw something the video didn't show.

Is killing over weed bad? I think that is your real question isn't it?

Well to answer it, laws are laws and cops are there to enforce laws. if you want no laws, then you want chaos. It's practically that simple. It's not rocket science.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
The old man would have known police were in the area if he'd called police instead of thinking he could handle the situation on his own.

And I'm sorry but if a cop wheels and sees someone standing in the dark holding a gun, he's going to shoot...tell me you wouldn't if you found a stranger on your property waving a gun around?
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Is that what happened here? Was it a citizen with a gun?

I want to ask them this then. What happens when lots of citizens walk out with a gun trying to stop a man with a gun?

Everyone either shoots each other or considers each other innocent.

So how do we tell the good guy from the bad guy in this situation? I tend to think and organized force that all wears the same gear and has the needed weapons is the best bet and I am willing to pay for their salaries.

When lots of "civilian police" show up no one knows them from a criminal.

Yet if you organize a force, people automatically hate you for being a powerful group. You will see people making online troll posts daily stating you shouldn't exist.

Yet the obvious contrast is, If everyone was a citizen officer without organization.....no one would know them from a criminal.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
freedom culture, hoplophobe. freedom culture.
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I find it funny that the exact people you tend to ridicule, people that were made fun of as youngsters and are out to get revenge on society, are YOU. Not cops.

The people who go CRAZY over gun ownership are weak people who could never stand up for themselves. They use guns for confidence.
 
Anti-Party said:
I find it funny that the exact people you tend to ridicule, people that were made fun of as youngsters and are out to get revenge on society, are YOU. Not cops.

The people who go CRAZY over gun ownership are weak people who could never stand up for themselves. They use guns for confidence.
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[Citation Needed]
 
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