Why would doctors need to know if you have a gun?

Derp Derp said:
Any question a physician have relevent to a patients wellness is their concern. Gun owners have accidents or might get depressed, this isn't about political proselytizing it's about being prepared for contingencies. Just as you say it's none of a physicians business if you carry a gun you could say the same about a physician asking you if you smoke, eat trans fat foods, drink alcohol, smoke weed, operate heavy machinery, work with chemicals, etc, etc and you would be just as equally wrong. The Doctor/Patient relationship is a constitutionally protected private relationship so that the patient will feel free to share privelaged and private information with their physician so that the physician may better serve them.

It may be ok to lie to your wife, your children, your parents, your co-workers and the guys you hang out with on the block but three people you should never, ever lie to or with hold information are your Doctor, your Laywer and your Clergyman.
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Why aren't they asking about cars, gas cans, knives, baseball bats, what floor their apartment is on, etc.; because people have used these items to murder others and some to commit suicide with?
 
Derp Derp said:
You're simply wrong. The physician has every right to ask you these privelaged and private questions and if you are not comfortable with that you are quite free to choose another physician. They may be obligated to treat you in an emergency but they are not obligated to accept you as a patient.

My advice is that if you have an family physician known for outstanding professional excellence in their practice that you put your ego in check and you think about the well being of you and your family and cooperate with said physician and provide them with such deeply personal information. Any information you can provide that physician that THEY feel enhances their ability to serve your medical needs is valuable information and the privacy of that information is protected by law.
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Your advice sucks.
 
leaningright said:
While Mott makes the best argument for such a silly ruling, I still don't agree with it. I don't mind telling my doctors that I own firearms....mine assume that after a couple of visits with me anyway, but it is still none of their business, IMO. I can't think of anything medical that my physician would connect to gun ownership. I am on Chantix right now and the pharmacist and doctor didn't even ask me about my guns. Or course by now they assume. :)
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I think the ruling is right, it really has almost nothing to do with my thread. Let them ask... I just would punch my way through logic and then say... well, you don't get an answer to that one.
 
Yurt said:
let's make this crystal clear then.

1. can a physician ask you about your religion or sexual preferences? yes or no.

2. can a physician deny you treatment based on your answers above? yes or no.
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Good lord.

#1. Hell yes! What if you have a child and and it has the following symptoms, slowing down of development, muscle weakening, loss of motor skills, seizures, vision and hearing loss? The physician would be incompetent if he didn't ask you if you were Jewish (Tay Sachs Disease). What if you have the following signs and symptons long bouts of diarehea, dry cough, memory loss, depression, pnuemonia, profound and unexplained fatigue, rapid weight loss, nigh sweats? Your physician would be an idiot not to ask you if you engage in gay sex (AIDS).
#2. No. Who the hell said anything about denying you treatment? I sure didn't. Not accepting you as a patient and denying you treatment are two entirely different things. I never mentioned a physician denying anyone treatment.
 
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Damocles said:
I think the ruling is right, it really has almost nothing to do with my thread. Let them ask... I just would punch my way through logic and then say... well, you don't get an answer to that one.
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and if they decide to dismiss you as their patient that's their perogative.
 
Derp Derp said:
Good lord.

#1. Hell yes! What if you have a child and and it has the following symptoms, slowing down of development, muscle weakening, loss of motor skills, seizures, vision and hearing loss? The physician would be incompetent if he didn't ask you if you were Jewish (Tay Sachs Disease). What if you have the following signs and symptons long bouts of diarehea, dry cough, memory loss, depression, pnuemonia, profound and unexplained fatigue, rapid weight loss, nigh sweats? Your physician would be an idiot not to ask you if you engage in gay sex (AIDS).
#2. No. Who the hell said anything about denying you treatment? I sure didn't. Not accepting you as a patient and denying you treatment are two entirely different things. I never mentioned a physician denying anyone treatment.
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my good lord. i have been to dozens of doctors and never once been asked about my religion. you are full of shit. being "jewish" does not give you the disease you fucking moron. you sadly googled something and now sadly are shown to be the fool.

you said they could deny treatment....you said it was their right. like i said....you're back peddling and doing so horribly. so horrible you're now lying about what you said.
 
Yurt said:
my good lord. i have been to dozens of doctors and never once been asked about my religion. you are full of shit. being "jewish" does not give you the disease you fucking moron. you sadly googled something and now sadly are shown to be the fool.

you said they could deny treatment....you said it was their right. like i said....you're back peddling and doing so horribly. so horrible you're now lying about what you said.
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Why are you so full of hate?
 
Yurt said:
my good lord. i have been to dozens of doctors and never once been asked about my religion. you are full of shit. being "jewish" does not give you the disease you fucking moron. you sadly googled something and now sadly are shown to be the fool.

you said they could deny treatment....you said it was their right. like i said....you're back peddling and doing so horribly. so horrible you're now lying about what you said.
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Really? Can you tell me one case of a person not of Jewish descent who has Tay Sachs disease? I also never said anything about a physician denying treatment, that's just simply you again puting words into peoples mouths as you are notorious for.

You simply don't know what you're talking about so you're just throwing out strawmen. It's as simple as this, a physician will ask any question they feel is relevent to helping them diagnose a disease in a patient. If you don't understand the concept and importance of building a case history then you know jack shit about the practice of medicine.
 
Derp;1030869]Really? Can you tell me one case of a person not of Jewish descent who has Tay Sachs disease? I also never said anything about a physician denying treatment, that's just simply you again puting words into peoples mouths as you are notorious for.
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you're a liar derp. your words:

Derp Derp said:
It's absolutely that physicians right. The single most important aspect of practicing medicine is the doctor/patient relationship. That doctor has the right to ask you anything they feel is pertinent to your medical well being and if you refuse to cooperate or provide that information that Doctor is well within their rights to terminate that relationship. As are you if you think the Physician is overstepping their limits as your physician.
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You simply don't know what you're talking about so you're just throwing out strawmen. It's as simple as this, a physician will ask any question they feel is relevent to helping them diagnose a disease in a patient. If you don't understand the concept and importance of building a case history then you know jack shit about the practice of medicine.
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nice tap dance. but not what you claimed. owning a piece of steel has zero to do with health mott. deal with it, accept and move on.
 
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