White Women’s Rage: 5 Thoughts on Why Jan Brewer Should Keep Her Fingers to Herself

You are most definitely not the least sexist person in this forum. Even if you do say so yourself.

Just because a bunch of idiots often abuse you doesn't make my disagreeing with an outrageous statement that you made is engaging in a pile on. Two assholes can get into a fight. Doesn't make either of them less of an asshole.

Fine, Darla. What do you want from me? Camaraderie, because I took your side when others were lambasting you? And now, you become "self-righteous", and arrogant, because we disagree on the boundaries people cross?
Often abuse? How about "constantly", without end? And now you imply that I'm an asshole? Really? You've lost "it", if you ever had "it".
 
i don't know if i saw a different angle on the picture or just looked at it different, but her finger is not in his face. it is actually chest level. she is merely just holding her finger up, not putting it in his face.

is there a video?
 
Fine, Darla. What do you want from me? Camaraderie, because I took your side when others were lambasting you? And now, you become "self-righteous", and arrogant, because we disagree on the boundaries people cross?
Often abuse? How about "constantly", without end? And now you imply that I'm an asshole? Really? You've lost "it", if you ever had "it".

The abuse that is hurled against you on this board is despicable and I've often said so. I personally believe Damo should have some guidelines regarding racist, homophobic, and sexist behavior. I believe that following someone around calling them the c word over and over is an attempt to intimidate them from their right to free speech. The same with much of what is hurled at you.

However, I am pointing out some of your own behavior which I don't think you give much thought to. For instance, your entire view of women seems to be based on the "you're one of the good ones" trope. I don't want to be one of the good ones. As a black man, do you want to be one of the good ones? I have no doubt you are very cognizant of how racist that is. And you would not hesitate to point it out. Well, I am pointing out that there is also a long history of judging women by "The good ones" and "the bad ones", and that this has also been used to oppress women.

And that is all.
 
My entire point is that all women are not anything. Women are just like men. Human beings who have both positive and negative qualities. They even have qualities that are viewed as positive when men have them.

You have a very skewed vision of what women are. I have seen you use many gendered insults against men. For one example - DY. You compare him to a vindictive, nasty woman. You know what Dy reminds me of? A vindictive, nasty man. Vindictiveness is not a female trait. It's a personality trait that some women and some men have. I've seen a lot of this from you and never said anything, mostly because you are being attacked in homophobic and gendered terms at the time.

Bend over queen? Bitch? Other names that come to mind that I can't write. They are all gendered insults. Half of homophobia is based in fear of one's own sexuality, the other half is based in misogyny, IMO. But you engage in misogyny yourself. You are certainly more than capable of seeing racism even when it is couched, so don't try and tell me you can't see sexism.

The definition of a woman is not a person who maintains all wonderful qualities. No woman has to cow-tow to you or anyone else and prove her worthiness as a woman by being sweet or demure. That is the very definition of the patriarchy which has always rewarded "good" women.

I'm sorry, but I'm not ready to group "all women" into a circle and give them preference and excuses, simply because they are female. Some women are women, others are banshees, bitches and vile creatures. If you want to be in denial of the reality, be my guest. When a woman decides to act like a bitch, she becomes "a bitch", and no woman.
Act accordingly. When a man decides to "act like a bitch", he becomes one. Act accordingly.

You, obviously, don't know me. After all of my many posts, which testify to the fact that my mother, saint that she was, was the most important, and influential person in my life, who I place on the highest pedestal, and that you could think that I'm "sexist" or demeaning to woman defies comprehension.
What better way to defuse homophobia, and bigotry than to call a bigoted man a woman, a bitch or gayer than a 3 dollar bill? Don't you see how they rail, when it's done?
Don't bring none, won't be none.
No one. No one person in this entire forum has had to endure the hate, insults and attacks that I have had to endure. And only two handfuls of forum members, staunch and true, have come to my aid. You, obviously are ambivalent. So be it. Be under your illusion, that women can do no wrong, and should be excused in each and every instance, simply because they are women. I don't believe that. And neither do I believe most thinking forum members would agree with that. Most of my supporters are able to read between my lines, and to "get me". It happens, wherever I go. And there are those, who think that their positions trump mine, and minimize the attacks upon me, from every quarter, and expect me to "just get over it". Dream on. I'm a black gay liberal Democratic male. I consider myself a feminist and altruist. I worship women. I despise bitches, and will become one, in a New York minute, as necessary. If that doesn't set well with you. I'm sorry, and "oh well'. Put me on ignore.
 
I'm sorry, but I'm not ready to group "all women" into a circle and give them preference and excuses, simply because they are female. .

So not hitting a woman is giving her preference? This sounds an awful lot like the "gays want special treatment" argument from the right.

I can't even get past the first sentence in your posts here without tripping over something like this.
 
"When a woman decides to act like a bitch, she becomes "a bitch", and no woman. "

This is exactly what alias says about myself and Christiefan. We are no women, we are liberal c*nts and deserve abuse.

This is the patriarchy in action - serve it, or suffer the consequences. Of course, I will always reject this regardless of it is a man, a woman, black, white, straight, gay, liberal, or conservative who is selling it. There's no sale here.
 
By the way you just referred to Usfreedom as "she". Freedom is an asshole and he has many, many, really uncountable, negative qualities.

But he's not a woman.

You call him a woman why? Because anyone with negative qualities must be female?

Perfect example.

Really? He's acting just like a bitchy woman. Are you saying they don't exist. If I subscribed to your comment about assholes, fighting with each other, I could easily include others to join her. I'm done.
 
Really? He's acting just like a bitchy woman. Are you saying they don't exist. If I subscribed to your comment about assholes, fighting with each other, I could easily include others to join her. I'm done.

He is acting like Freedom. And Freedom is a nasty, below-average IQ, man.
 
The abuse that is hurled against you on this board is despicable and I've often said so. I personally believe Damo should have some guidelines regarding racist, homophobic, and sexist behavior. I believe that following someone around calling them the c word over and over is an attempt to intimidate them from their right to free speech. The same with much of what is hurled at you.

However, I am pointing out some of your own behavior which I don't think you give much thought to. For instance, your entire view of women seems to be based on the "you're one of the good ones" trope. I don't want to be one of the good ones. As a black man, do you want to be one of the good ones? I have no doubt you are very cognizant of how racist that is. And you would not hesitate to point it out. Well, I am pointing out that there is also a long history of judging women by "The good ones" and "the bad ones", and that this has also been used to oppress women.

And that is all.

Please...as you said of me. I feel your empathy is disingenuous and dishonest. Don't dare defend me at this point. You expressed your true feelings earlier. Live with them.
I'm not going to think you my friend, when you have proven that you are not.
Reality dictates that there are "good and bad" in all. In all races. In all genders. And yes, most definitely, I consider myself to be "one of the good ones'. Your criterion is "women and men'. Mine is "good and bad". And your take that women are so oppressed sounds exactly like those blacks who subscribe to the notion that they, too, are so oppressed, and therefore, resigned to their "lot", since nothing can be done. Damn that. We are responsible for ourselves....women included. If you're going to act like a hapless, helpless woman, you're going to be treated as such. But how many women refuse that label and fight for their rights, and against stereotypes?
Judging women? They judged Jesus. Who are you not to be judged or talked about?
Trust me...I, as a black man...as a gay man, have endured much more than you, as a woman..
A smart woman is able to transcend her gender and make it work for her. You have what men want. Don't blame me or anyone else because you don't know how to make it work for you.
 
"A smart woman is able to transcend her gender and make it work for her. You have what men want. Don't blame me or anyone else because you don't know how to make it work for you. "

I don't even know what to say to this.

I have no interest in abusing you, this conversation is over. You've exposed so much of a f'd up attitude about women here, that there's nothing I could ever add anyway.
 
"When a woman decides to act like a bitch, she becomes "a bitch", and no woman. "

This is exactly what alias says about myself and Christiefan. We are no women, we are liberal c*nts and deserve abuse.

This is the patriarchy in action - serve it, or suffer the consequences. Of course, I will always reject this regardless of it is a man, a woman, black, white, straight, gay, liberal, or conservative who is selling it. There's no sale here.

Excuse me, but why would you decide to put on a shoe that doesn't fit? No one is holding a gun to your head, to make you subscribe to that nonsense. But you are running as fast as you can to put the damn shoe on, and then complain about it. What's your problem?
 
Excuse me, but why would you decide to put on a shoe that doesn't fit? No one is holding a gun to your head, to make you subscribe to that nonsense. But you are running as fast as you can to put the damn shoe on, and then complain about it. What's your problem?

Is this your clever way of saying that if the c*nt shoe fits, wear it?
 
He is acting like Freedom. And Freedom is a nasty, below-average IQ, man.

Really? I'm sure he might have something to say about it....like calling you all those c-words, and things. The only one I have ever taken to task, to reciprocate is ID.
Are you here to defend her...because she has called you exactly what you're railing against. Now, what do you have to say about a woman disrespecting another woman?
If you're being consistent, you'll defend her...if not, you're contradicting yourself. Think.
 
Is this your clever way of saying that if the c*nt shoe fits, wear it?

I don't have to pull the clever card. I'm direct. If I were saying that, you'd be seeing that. You are the one rushing to wear the c-shoe, putting your foot in it, walking around in it, and complaining that you were made to wear it. Take the damn thing off and fling it far, if you don't subscribe to it. Damn. Stop being the victim.
 
I don't have to pull the clever card. I'm direct. If I were saying that, you'd be seeing that. You are the one rushing to wear the c-shoe, putting your foot in it, walking around in it, and complaining that you were made to wear it. Take the damn thing off and fling it far, if you don't subscribe to it. Damn. Stop being the victim.

Pointing out that calling a woman the c word, especially frequently, is sexist, is playing the victim?

You have a seriously messed up viewpoint on women. The only good thing that came out of this is that anyone who mistakenly defended you yesterday is going to have their eyes wide open when they get a load of the shit you wrote today. I really get that you have no idea just how much you announced your misogyny...but that won't change the fact that you did.

You hurt yourself really bad here. I didn't have to do a thing. Just let you talk. Of course, you have that in common with all other misogynists. Just let them talk - they always do hang themselves.
 
Pointing out that calling a woman the c word, especially frequently, is sexist, is playing the victim?

You have a seriously messed up viewpoint on women. The only good thing that came out of this is that anyone who mistakenly defended you yesterday is going to have their eyes wide open when they get a load of the shit you wrote today. I really get that you have no idea just how much you announced your misogyny...but that won't change the fact that you did.

You hurt yourself really bad here. I didn't have to do a thing. Just let you talk. Of course, you have that in common with all other misogynists. Just let them talk - they always do hang themselves.

You're an angry woman, with an obvious chip on your shoulder. I am no misogynist, as I am no racist. Because you didn't get the desired result you sought, you lashed out. Not my problem. People are going to think or believe what they will. Quite often, people are wrong.
I have not hurt myself. Yet, you are claiming a pyrrhic victory. This has been all about you, all the long. Enjoy.
 
You're an angry woman, with an obvious chip on your shoulder. I am no misogynist, as I am no racist. Because you didn't get the desired result you sought, you lashed out. Not my problem. People are going to think or believe what they will. Quite often, people are wrong.
I have not hurt myself. Yet, you are claiming a pyrrhic victory. This has been all about you, all the long. Enjoy.

Of course I'm an angry woman! LOL

Poet your views of women are flat-out insane. They probably should make me angry, instead I am amazed. Absolutely amazed. I don't think I could pick the most outrageous thing you posted on this thread, but the one about having what men want and working it, comes close. I mean, it's up there.

Men with insane views of women don't make me angry. You're more like a specimen. Your insanity is not my problem, and thankfully we finally live in a world where you are never going to get to make it my, or any other woman's, problem.
 
Back
Top