Science Denial Runs Red and Blue

evince said:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fact



Definition of fact
1
a
: something that has actual existence
space exploration is now a fact
b
: an actual occurrence
prove the fact of damage
2
: a piece of information presented as having objective reality
These are the hard facts of the case.
3
: the quality of being actual : actuality
a question of fact hinges on evidence
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Just because you say something is a fact doesn't make it one. Not even with this definition.
 
evince said:
dude


its NOT Democrats believing the stuff you complained about


that means your premise is flawed


stop equating the people who seek truth and facts with the far right


Its not a truth
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LOL! So the only one that's right and has the complete knowledge of the Universe is you??? I didn't realize I was talking to God.
:laugh::laugh::laugh:
 
Micawber said:
We know the evidence of GMO food is that it is safe to consume.
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No,we don't. There is no proof. You are also making a compositional error. Each and every GMO food is tested before it goes on the market. Some don't make it because they are toxic.
Micawber said:
We know vaccines are safe
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Again, the same error. Each and every vaccine is tested before it goes on the market. Quite a few of them don't make it for one reason or another.
Micawber said:
and that there is no scientific evidence of them for example causing autism.
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Some of them do. It becomes a gamble at that point. Do you make use of a vaccine because of the low probability of causing autism vs the greater risk of catching the disease the vaccine prevents?
Micawber said:
We know what a scientific consensus is.
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No such thing. Consensus is only used in religions and politics. Science is just theories. They don't get voted on.
Micawber said:
Attack science, attack institutions and instrumentalities of power.
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That would be the liberals.
Micawber said:
Foist lies on the population.
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That would be the liberals too.
Micawber said:
Engender hate for schools, universities,
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Nah. You worship these institutions. We don't treat them like gods like you do.
Micawber said:
federal law enforcement,
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Void argument. Who is attacking federal law enforcement?
Micawber said:
the courts,
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Who is attacking the courts?
Micawber said:
basically everything.
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Rather sweeping statement, doncha think?
Micawber said:
Republicans suck ass and are ruining our country if not the whole fucking world.
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The Earth doesn't fuck. Neither are Republicans running the whole world.
 
evince said:
eat shit and don't die


you live in a moral less and fact less space, a small space that is exists only between your ears


I live in a fact base space that encompasses endless space and human morals


a russo bot hole like you can never go there
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Insults and incoherent gibberish... Try English next time.
 
its libertarians and republicans NOT Democratic voters




The whole thing about the Democratic party is they want things based on known facts


Not lies from right wing idiots who take corporate money to say shit that helps CEOs
 
Mott the Hoople said:
I think this is a good way of discussing the dangers of politicizing science. Certainly when the discussion of science denial is brought up it is used pejoratively to accuse conservatives of denying scientific consensus. Teaching evolutionary theory and climate change are probably the big two hot button topic that most are familiar with.

However my readings on many posters in political message boards and listening and reading political polemicist I've found that science denial often has more to do with a person being, not well informed on science or how to evaluate scientific data is or understanding what a scientific consensus is (it's not a popularity contest, that's for sure). I've also found that it has a lot to do with a persons personal politics being ideologically driven. In that respect I find liberals just as guilty of science denial as conservatives are about evolution, astronomy, climate change, gun violence, etc,.

Don't believe me? Talk to a liberal ideologues about vaccinations, gender, GMO Food safety, the evolutionary basis of social behavior, etc,.

Take Gender identity issues. The social theories on gender identity are simply not supported by science. Both sex and gender are binary. That's an established scientific fact which has scientific consensus. GMO Food Safety - The vast majority of peer reviewed literature and most relevant scientific associations have concluded that GMO Foods are safe. The same is true with vaccinations. The scientific consensus is that the benefits of vaccinations far out weigh the risk. Yet many liberals are hostile to these scientific consensus.

This is why as a person educated and trained in science why I'm careful about politicizing science. Often when that happens the facts and the consequences of those facts are relegated to secondary status to what is either politically popular or politically expedient.
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Time for you to insult the correct people and admit your premise was flawed


follow my lead dude
 
evince said:
Time for you to insult the correct people and admit your premise was flawed


follow my lead dude
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You have it backwards Desh. I have asked them to do that and they have not. I don't have to much of a problem with the sociological/psychological argument for trans gender identities. There just isn't much in the way of biological evidence supporting it.
 
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