Science Denial Runs Red and Blue

[Aimée]

I agree that science denial is both a left and a right thing. Usually, it's mostly in the fringe elements who also tend to be conspiracy theorists.

 

[gfm7175]

there are no facts in the world?

Strawman. I already told you what facts are.

see why you are completely useless


go eat dirt and drink piss


there are no facts so it will sustain you if only you believe they will


please keep trying to prove just how meaningless you are

Various insults ignored on sight...

 

[gfm7175]

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fact



Definition of fact
1
a
: something that has actual existence
space exploration is now a fact
b
: an actual occurrence
prove the fact of damage
2
: a piece of information presented as having objective reality
These are the hard facts of the case.
3
: the quality of being actual : actuality
a question of fact hinges on evidence

False Authority Fallacy. Dictionaries do not define words; they are not authoritative over any word definition.

Which of the numerous offered definitions are you accepting as true?

 

[evince]

Strawman. I already told you what facts are.



Various insults ignored on sight...

Dear fucking idiot


the shit that you drool out of your idiot mouth is meaningless and not based on fact


I don't care if you are offended or not

You lie and pretend everyone should value your lame lies

lies are far worse that any other insult


you are a bag of baseless lies


fuck you very much

 

[evince]

False Authority Fallacy. Dictionaries do not define words; they are not authoritative over any word definition.

Which of the numerous offered definitions are you accepting as true?

the right wing idiot claims of a factless world


they hate dictionaries


and encyclopedias


and math


and history


and science


human diarrhea puddles one and all

 

[evince]

the LEFT does not embrace lies like the right does


lying about that wont make it true


when you proffer this lie you are with the russians

 

[Micawber]

dude


its NOT Democrats believing the stuff you complained about


that means your premise is flawed


stop equating the people who seek truth and facts with the far right


Its not a truth

Thank you, Evince. I think in this case Mott inadvertently executed a masterful troll.

We know the evidence of GMO food is that it is safe to consume. We know vaccines are safe
and that there is no scientific evidence of them for example causing autism.
We know what a scientific consensus is. And he knows rightwards are more stupid than dirt
and believe evidence is a dirty word. Just ask Trump and his policy at the CDC of
banning the use of the word "evidence based."

Attack science, attack institutions and instrumentalities of power. Foist lies on the population.
Engender hate for schools, universities, federal law enforcement, the courts, basically everything.


Republicans suck ass and are ruining our country if not the whole fucking world.

 

[gfm7175]

Dear fucking idiot

Insult Fallacy.

the shit that you drool out of your idiot mouth is meaningless and not based on fact

Insult Fallacy. Not what a 'fact' is...

I don't care if you are offended or not

I'm not offended. I'm simply pointing out your fallacious argumentation...

You lie and pretend everyone should value your lame lies

Holding differing beliefs does not equate to lying, evince...

lies are far worse that any other insult

See above.

you are a bag of baseless lies

Continued insults and redefinition of the term 'lying'...

fuck you very much

Insult Fallacy.

 

[gfm7175]

the right wing idiot claims of a factless world


they hate dictionaries


and encyclopedias


and math


and history


and science


human diarrhea puddles one and all

Bigotry. Inversion Fallacy. Insult Fallacy.

 

[CharacterAssassin]

Oh please...now you want to hide your lack of knowledge in biology with irrelevant and childish insult hurling because someone who is being scientifically objective doesn't agree with your political or social paradigm. I have told no lies. I have made an emperical observation and have invited you to provide credible facts that contradict or falsify those empirical observations. Be my guest.

Yawn. I addressed gender. You responded by offering up the red herring of replying about sex, something I didn't reference. You lied when you asserted that gender is binary and that science has established that as a fact.

It's not, it hasn't and you cannot demonstrate otherwise. You have made no empirical observation; you've simply brayed out unsupported bare assertions.

Next time you think about getting a degree in biology, perhaps a welding academy isn't the place to do so.

You're not fooling anyone but yourself, child.

 

[CharacterAssassin]

Glad that it cheered you up a bit... I suspect the mods there got mad at me for my comments/opinions about them and the DMs, and just wanted me gone so they came up with the "sock account" excuse, even though I've only ever had this one account name for all the debate forums I've ever participated in. Regardless, it is their forum and they can control who they want participating in it. They apparently did not want me participating on their forum any longer.

And by posting that, I know exactly who you are from the other forum

You got fucked and chucked because you were a sock.

Own your fail.

 

[evince]

Bigotry. Inversion Fallacy. Insult Fallacy.

eat shit and don't die


you live in a moral less and fact less space, a small space that is exists only between your ears


I live in a fact base space that encompasses endless space and human morals


a russo bot hole like you can never go there

 

[CharacterAssassin]

eat shit and don't die


you live in a moral less and fact less space, a small space that is exists only between your ears


I live in a fact base space that encompasses endless space and human morals


a russo bot hole like you can never go there

The beautifully stupid thing is he doesn't understand formal logic and just makes random fallacies up, like a 5th grader reading a university philosophy text and not knowing what's going on.

There is no inversion fallacy, but if he were ever to admit that, his little world would crumble and fall.

 

[evince]

The beautifully stupid thing is he doesn't understand formal logic and just makes random fallacies up, like a 5th grader reading a university philosophy text and not knowing what's going on.

There is no inversion fallacy, but if he were ever to admit that, his little world would crumble and fall.

they do the trump

Insist that you KNOW things and then make up crap you think sounds smart

 

[Into the Night]

Nope. Backpedaling, moving the goal posts, trying to float trial balloons and new and novel premises, and attempting to back track won't help you now.

I'm not backpedaling anything. The NAS is simply not science. It is a political organization.

It is implausible to take the opinion of an obscure message board poster with no scientific expertise,
over the standard operating practice of the National Academy of Sciences

You have no idea what my expertise in science is. You are just assuming. As far as the NAS is concerned, they don't own science. They don't get to define it. They are a political organization. Political organizations have nothing to do with what science is.

and National Research Council,

They are a political organization too.

who recognize the role and validity in consensus in advancing scientific knowledge.

Science isn't knowledge. It is a set of theories. It does not use consensus at all. A single scientist may create a theory of science. No one votes on a theory of science. There is no elite gatekeeper of science. No theory is ever proven. No amount of agreement with a theory or disagreement with a theory will not change the validity of any theory.

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...enial-Runs-Red-and-Blue&p=2947253#post2947253

This is the point at which your proper response is to admit you have no expertise or training in scientific research,

I did not make this statement. You seem to be confused.

and that you should have not attempted to be an armchair expert spouting off uninformed opinions, guesses, and suppositions about topics you are not qualified to speak on.

You do not know my qualifications. Neither do they matter here since this is a blind forum.

 

[Into the Night]

go fuck your self you idiot russo bot hole



you fucking lying on the internets is meaningless


tell Putin the GRU program is failing

You seem to have a real anger problem. I've noticed that too about a lot of liberals.

 

[Into the Night]

yes I am


one that actually follows facts and NOT old myths


I deliver links with my claims



you just rant on like you are some expert while you mouth poop nonstop lies

Links are not a proof. You are just too lazy to make your own argument and have to depend on others to do your thinking for you.

 

[Into the Night]

facts

Not a fact. An argument.

 

[Into the Night]

facts

Not a fact. An argument.

 

[Into the Night]

If you, as an obscure message board poster, think you know more about science than the U.S. National Academies of Science and the National Research Council, feel free to contact them and complain to them they are dead wrong for daring to consider that scientific consensus plays an important role in advancing human and scientific knowledge.

Okay. Let's look at this consensus thing.

Within the Catholic Church, there are political groups that have formed a consensus that god exists. They are qualified by the Church itself to make this statement. Therefore, by your own definition of science, it is a scientific fact that God exists.
Among the atheists, atheists also qualify those who are atheists as atheists. Among them, there is a consensus that God does not exist. Therefore, by your own definition of science, it is a scientific fact that God does not exist.

This is what consensus gives you: religion.

It also gave you Trump. He won by a consensus of votes from the electoral college.

Consensus is used in religion and politics. It is not used in science. No one votes on anything in science. No theory is ever voted on in science.