John McShame is a real pill

noise said:
McCain doesn't GAF about "regular order" he's an almost-brain-dead #NeverTrump.

are you seriously saying:
is problematic?? But it was fine for the Dems to do that, huh? < rank partisanship
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The GOP had ample opportunity to debate and amend the AHA...
They were so sure that they could defeat it by scaring the American people they didn't bother to...
Sucks to be Turtle-boy...
 
God bless America said:
Obamacare is a mammoth failure, and repeal may not be necessary. It's dying.

Sux 2 b Buck. :rofl2:
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The law is not without it's problems. Not the least of which is republican underfunding...
It could easily be fixed but the republican agenda is tax cuts to the uber wealthy, not the well being of their constituency.
SAD.
 
Buckly J. Ewer said:
The GOP had ample opportunity to debate and amend the AHA... They were so sure that they could defeat it by scaring the American people they didn't bother to... Sucks to be Turtle-boy...
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Still repeating that?

DEMOCRATS had a 60-vote majority in the Senate and a president they knew would sign it, but then Brown won in Massachusetts and could no longer stifle debate in the Senate, so they rammed it through.

Pelosi told Congress they had to pass it to find out what was in it.

The U.S. House of Representatives was safely DEMOCRAT as a result of the Nov. 4, 2008, elections by a margin of 257 – 199; DEMOCRATS had gained 21 seats from the 2006-07 Congress. The real interesting ACA political dynamics began during the November 2008 U.S. Senate elections.


Going into the 2008 elections, the Senate consisted of 49 Democrats, 49 Republicans, and two Independents (Joe Lieberman of Connecticut and Bernie Sanders of Vermont) who caucused with DEMOCRATS. When the smoke cleared from those elections, DEMOCRATS picked up eight seats to increase their majority to 57-41 (although DEMOCRAT Al Franken’s recount victory was not official until July 7).

With the two Independents, the DEMOCRATS were one vote shy of the supermajority magic number of 60 they needed to ward off any filibuster attempts and move forward with broad healthcare reform legislation.

But on April 28, 2009, the dynamics changed when Pennsylvania Republican Arlen Spector changed parties, giving Senate DEMOCRATS that coveted 60th vote.

Now DEMOCRATS had a safe majority in the House and a filibuster-proof supermajority of 60 in the Senate. That scenario lasted only four months before fate intervened. Sen. Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts died on August 25, 2009, leaving DEMOCRATS, once again, with 59 seats (counting the two Independents).

Exactly one month later, on September 25, DEMOCRAT Paul Kirk was appointed interim senator from Massachusetts to serve until the special election set for January 19, 2010 – once again giving the DEMOCRATS that 60th vote. But the intrigue was just beginning.

With the supermajority vote safely intact once again, the Senate moved rather quickly to pass the ACA – or ObamaCare – on Christmas Eve 2009 in a 60 – 39 vote (Kentucky Republican Senator Jim Bunning chose not to vote since he was not running for reelection).

The House had previously passed a similar, although not identical bill on November 7, 2009, on a 220 – 215 vote. One Republican voted “aye,” and 39 DEMOCRATS were against.

There didn’t seem to be an urgent need for DEMOCRATS to reconcile both bills immediately, because the Massachusetts special election (scheduled for January 19, 2010) was almost certain to fall to the DEMOCRAT, Attorney General Martha Coakley. After all, no Republican had been elected to the U.S. Senate from the Bay State since Edward Brooke in 1972 – 38 years before!

But in yet another twist of fate, Republican Scott Brown ran his campaign as the 41st senator against ObamaCare and shocked nearly everyone by winning the special election by 110,000 votes.

Everyone assumed that the Christmas Eve 2009 Senate bill would be tweaked considerably to conform more with the House bill passed two months previously.

But that strategy wouldn’t work, because DEMOCRATS no longer had the 60th vote in the Senate to end debate. What to do?

They decided to have the House take up the identical bill that the Senate passed on Christmas Eve. It passed on March 21, 2010, by a 219 – 212 vote.

This time, no Republicans came on board, and 34 DEMOCRATS voted against. President Obama signed the ACA legislation two days later on March 23.

Sux 2 b Buck. :rofl2:


https://www.forbes.com/sites/physiciansfoundation/2014/03/26/a-look-back-at-how-the-president-was-able-to-sign-obamacare-into-law-four-years-ago/2/#5dfee54a1020
 
God bless America said:
Let's see if you're a man of your word.

Well, Zappacrite? I condemned ILA and noise for wishing death on another human being.

Now, condemn Christiecrite for her hypocrisy, own up to your own double standard, and admit that you can't prove that Russell Walker is a "Trumpkin".
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Again I ask, what did she do to be branded hypocrite?

You don't just get to say "condemn Christie's hypocrisy".

I can't condemn it if I don't know WHAT she supposedly did.
 
God bless America said:
Still repeating that?

DEMOCRATS had a 60-vote majority in the Senate and a president they knew would sign it, but then Brown won in Massachusetts and could no longer stifle debate in the Senate, so they rammed it through.

Pelosi told Congress they had to pass it to find out what was in it.

The U.S. House of Representatives was safely Democratic as a result of the Nov. 4, 2008, elections by a margin of 257 – 199; the Democrats had gained 21 seats from the 2006-07 Congress. The real interesting ACA political dynamics began during the November 2008 U.S. Senate elections.


Going into the 2008 elections, the Senate consisted of 49 Democrats, 49 Republicans, and two Independents (Joe Lieberman of Connecticut and Bernie Sanders of Vermont) who caucused with DEMOCRATS. When the smoke cleared from those elections, DEMOCRATS picked up eight seats to increase their majority to 57-41 (although DEMOCRAT Al Franken’s recount victory was not official until July 7).

With the two Independents, the DEMOCRATS were one vote shy of the supermajority magic number of 60 they needed to ward off any filibuster attempts and move forward with broad healthcare reform legislation.

But on April 28, 2009, the dynamics changed when Pennsylvania Republican Arlen Spector changed parties, giving Senate DEMOCRATS that coveted 60th vote.

Now DEMOCRATS had a safe majority in the House and a filibuster-proof supermajority of 60 in the Senate. That scenario lasted only four months before fate intervened. Sen. Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts died on August 25, 2009, leaving DEMOCRATS, once again, with 59 seats (counting the two Independents).

Exactly one month later, on September 25, DEMOCRAT Paul Kirk was appointed interim senator from Massachusetts to serve until the special election set for January 19, 2010 – once again giving the DEMOCRATS that 60th vote. But the intrigue was just beginning.

With the supermajority vote safely intact once again, the Senate moved rather quickly to pass the ACA – or ObamaCare – on Christmas Eve 2009 in a 60 – 39 vote (Kentucky Republican Senator Jim Bunning chose not to vote since he was not running for reelection).

The House had previously passed a similar, although not identical bill on November 7, 2009, on a 220 – 215 vote. One Republican voted “aye,” and 39 DEMOCRATS were against.

There didn’t seem to be an urgent need for DEMOCRATS to reconcile both bills immediately, because the Massachusetts special election (scheduled for January 19, 2010) was almost certain to fall to the DEMOCRAT, Attorney General Martha Coakley. After all, no Republican had been elected to the U.S. Senate from the Bay State since Edward Brooke in 1972 – 38 years before!

But in yet another twist of fate, Republican Scott Brown ran his campaign as the 41st senator against ObamaCare and shocked nearly everyone by winning the special election by 110,000 votes.

Everyone assumed that the Christmas Eve 2009 Senate bill would be tweaked considerably to conform more with the House bill passed two months previously.

But that strategy wouldn’t work, because DEMOCRATS no longer had the 60th vote in the Senate to end debate. What to do?

They decided to have the House take up the identical bill that the Senate passed on Christmas Eve. It passed on March 21, 2010, by a 219 – 212 vote.

This time, no Republicans came on board, and 34 DEMOCRATS voted against. President Obama signed the ACA legislation two days later on March 23.

Sux 2 b Buck. :rofl2:


https://www.forbes.com/sites/physiciansfoundation/2014/03/26/a-look-back-at-how-the-president-was-able-to-sign-obamacare-into-law-four-years-ago/2/#5dfee54a1020
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Republicans could have offered amendments and debated any aspect of the bill...
They chose not to.
Sucks to be GOP.
 
God bless America said:
I expect exactly what I get from you and your baby child Zappacrite. Deflection, double standards, and hypocrisy.

You never disappoint.
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All we ever get from you is deflection, double standards and hypocrisy.

Whining when you get the same in return just highlights your...


wait for it...


HYPOCRISY!

:rofl2:
 
ZappasGuitar said:
I've provided multiple sources proving my claim. I am sorry if you refuse to accept what is common knowledge, that's your problem not mine.
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Prove it, Zappacrite.

Tell me, Zappacrite, didn't you promise to condemn Christiecrite's hypocrisy regarding her refusal to call you a baby - even though she said that anyone who starts insult threads is one?

Didn't you promise to admit that you failed to back up your claim that Russell Walker is a "Trumpkin"?

Didn't you promise to confess that you employed a double standard when you refused to acknowledge your own self-proclaimed opinion on threadbans?
 
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