I'll be voting Libertarian...

BartenderElite said:
Since when has EITHER party not had elements that were more on the radical end of the spectrum?

Every election it's the same scare tactics. Biden is as middle-of-the-road as a candidate can get.
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perhaps in a vacuum. But I reject that as well

In truth Biden has no core values, as evidenced by him already being co-opted by Sanders/AOC "Unity document"
He is now mouthing the Progressive agenda as well ( he doesnt take questions but his performances are far left)
 
anatta said:
he became utterly goofy in '16
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I thought he'd taken over the mantle of libertarianism from Ron Paul but you're correct. In fact his performance in '16 set the L.P. way back. I'm still registered and will stay that way out of protest of being labeled a dim or repub.
 
anonymoose said:
I thought he'd taken over the mantle of libertarianism from Ron Paul but you're correct. In fact his performance in '16 set the L.P. way back. I'm still registered and will stay that way out of protest of being labeled a dim or repub.
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lol I'm still a registered Dem.. they left me, i didn't leave them
Now they are completely batchit crazy
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Because California is the most populous state in the US. Even so, as proved ad nauseum, even many Democrats dislike her. One reason she lost is because too many Democrats in key states stayed home....which may be the same reason why Trump loses in November: too many disgusted Republicans stay home.

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You completely avoided my question. How comes she still got more votes than Trump. Please reconcile this contradiction.
 
anatta said:
once in a blue moon..and I confess to voting G. Johnson in '12.
Back when I thought the Dems were still sane, but refused to vote for Obama because of Libya

Now we know the Dems are crazed radicals, and their coalition power is with AOC and the Squad.
There is no more room for self satisfying votes .pick a side
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Crazed radicals? ROTFLMOA. Have you been hiding under a rock? The overwhelming majority of political extremism in this country is from the far right and that’s a well documented fact. Hell Trump is an extremist.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Crazed radicals? ROTFLMOA. Have you been hiding under a rock? The overwhelming majority of political extremism in this country is from the far right and that’s a well documented fact. Hell Trump is an extremist.
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OK Mott. The Green New Deal is MS and Trump's goal for energy independence is "extremist" :rolleyes:
 
Mott the Hoople said:
You completely avoided my question. How comes she still got more votes than Trump. Please reconcile this contradiction.
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Sorry, I didn't realize you didn't understand my initial reply and needed something more graphic:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election_in_California
Clinton won the state with 61.73 percent of the vote and a 30.11 percent margin, both the highest since Franklin D. Roosevelt's 66.95 percent vote share and 35.25 percent margin in 1936. This was also the first time that Orange County voted Democratic since 1936, when Franklin D. Roosevelt swept every single county in the state. Trump's vote share in the state (31.62%) was the lowest for a major-party candidate since John W. Davis's 8.2% in 1924.

Popular vote 8,753,788 4,483,810 <----Hillary wins by well over 3M votes.
Percentage 61.73% 31.62%

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anatta said:
OK Mott. The Green New Deal is MS and Trump's goal for energy independence is "extremist" :rolleyes:
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Same old scare tactics.

A lot of good legislation starts that way. You put it all out there - by the time it gets through both houses, it's incredibly watered down, but still a step in the right direction.

We have to move on the environment. It has not been a priority. One of Trump's quietest achievements is rolling back protection measures in favor of polluters and irresponsible developers.

That has to change, and it has to change fast. What we're doing now is simply not sustainable.
 
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