How should we punish China?

Concart said:
I'm not sure how you determine that amount. That being said, I don't disagree that there has to be some punitive measures. The danger of course is that whatever we decide to impose will backfire on us. We are still dependent on China for a ton of things. And there is a danger that they call our debt. So we are in agreement that something has to be done, the challenge will be do make a measured response that won't do long term damage to us.
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And do you think that Trump is capable of making such a response?

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BTW if you default on US bonds as a desperate way to try to scapegoat China for Trumps corona failure, you will destroy the value of the US dollar lmao. Go ahead, be my guest.
 
TRUMP LIED 40K DIED said:
Default on US debt and destroy the dollar for Trumps ego

Lmao
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If China refused to compensate America for the deaths and economic losses to Americans and their families caused by the virus from China that China failed to contain, it would be China who defaults on their debt.
 
Bill said:
Yep, we need to act in a way that is in our best interest, not just what we think is against theirs/hurt them..

Bringing back vital industry is a must..
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There is no way to break down factories in China and ship them to the United States

It will cost real investment in the United States, there's no such thing as "sending investment back" lmao, what an idiot. The factories are always going to be there competing against you on global markets. America is fucked because it's a nation of vultures who have no concept of sacrifice, literally there's no way to force reindustrialize outside of central planning. It cannot be taken from China magically. We neglected to invest in ourselves, our factories didn't move, we let them decay. China invested in themselves.
 
Earl said:
If China refused to compensate America for the deaths and economic losses to Americans and their families caused by the virus from China that China failed to contain, it would be China who defaults on their debt.
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Oh yes people will be very happy to buy American debt in the future knowing that American policy is to make up new international rules on the fly as a way to weasel out of the obligation written on dollar bills.

Do you want Chinese bonds? I'm sure that can be negotiated. Defaulting in existing debt instruments is defaul .
 
TRUMP LIED 40K DIED said:
There is no way to break down factories in China and ship them to the United States

It will cost real investment in the United States, there's no such thing as "sending investment back" lmao, what an idiot. The factories are always going to be there competing against you on global markets. America is fucked because it's a nation of vultures who have no concept of sacrifice, literally there's no way to force reindustrialize outside of central planning. It cannot be taken from China magically. We neglected to invest in ourselves, our factories didn't move, we let them decay. China invested in themselves.
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Perhaps you should emigrate to China...you will love the lying murdering Communists in China.
 
TRUMP LIED 40K DIED said:
Oh yes people will be very happy to buy American debt in the future knowing that American policy is to make up new international rules on the fly as a way to weasel out of the obligation written on dollar bills.

Do you want Chinese bonds? I'm sure that can be negotiated. Defaulting in existing debt instruments is defaul .
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You appear to be confused.

If China refused to compensate America for the deaths and economic losses to Americans and their families caused by the virus from China that China failed to contain, it would be China who defaults on their debt.
 
TRUMP LIED 40K DIED said:
There is no way to break down factories in China and ship them to the United States

It will cost real investment in the United States, there's no such thing as "sending investment back" lmao, what an idiot. The factories are always going to be there competing against you on global markets. America is fucked because it's a nation of vultures who have no concept of sacrifice, literally there's no way to force reindustrialize outside of central planning. It cannot be taken from China magically. We neglected to invest in ourselves, our factories didn't move, we let them decay. China invested in themselves.
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There are many nation's where Apple can make their iPhones ffs! Foxconn is a Taiwanese company that can move production to other countries over time. Stop being such a Chinese arselicker, your destiny is that plywood mill get used to it, Mark!
 
TSgt said:
Yes, if they move to South Korea, Taiwan, Vietnam, Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, etc, that is a win for us.

We could give better breaks to the companies that move back here, of course.

People who want to support the enemy should expect to pay more. We did quite well in the 90s when all the cheap stuff was still being made in Taiwan.
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:dunno: I would say calling that a win is a stretch..... I would much prefer the USA, or @ least Mex/Canada, especially regarding things considered vital, meds as an example...

You do know much of the manufacturing in Vietnam is done by Chinese owned companies??
 
Earl said:
Send China a trillion dollar bill for the virus from China that China failed to contain.

If they don’t pay, cancel all their debt.

Ya esta.
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:palm: & I thought earl was smarter than this, my bad!!!

I rest assured he will forgive trump w/ many kisses
for not following his advice..
 
Legion said:
Will DEMOCRATS oppose the nominees to protect Red China?
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I don't support trump having any say in the matter but I do support divesting Fed & Calif funds from all CCP owned enterprises, in China, Viet or where the fuck ever..

Until they follow the same rules as every other company listed they should not be allowed on American exchanges-PERIOD
 
TRUMP LIED 70K DIED said:
There is no way to break down factories in China and ship them to the United States

It will cost real investment in the United States, there's no such thing as "sending investment back" lmao, what an idiot. The factories are always going to be there competing against you on global markets. America is fucked because it's a nation of vultures who have no concept of sacrifice, literally there's no way to force reindustrialize outside of central planning. It cannot be taken from China magically. We neglected to invest in ourselves, our factories didn't move, we let them decay. China invested in themselves.
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Where did anyone say anything about breaking down factories & sending them to the USA?? FUCKIN NUMBSKULL...:palm:

Stick to your lane son, you're leaving a large whole in communist martyrdom, not to mention an empty space under a rock in Guangdong some place..
 
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