How should we punish China?

Earl said:
You appear to be confused.

If China refused to compensate America for the deaths and economic losses to Americans and their families caused by the virus from China that China failed to contain, it would be China who defaults on their debt.
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FAIL!!! You can't even address his point, well outside your bubble of make believe............ You are totally wrong....... You have no fucking clue how stupid it is to even suggest... Not even your orange anti-christ is that fuckin stupid.......... Shame on you earl.........:palm:
 
Grajonca said:
There are many nation's where Apple can make their iPhones ffs! Foxconn is a Taiwanese company that can move production to other countries over time. Stop being such a Chinese arselicker, your destiny is that plywood mill get used to it, Mark!
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Exactly!!! Simply greed, a few cents for a company hoarding 110 billion.......

You think folks in the USA/west would dare boycott them for any reason??
 
Bill said:
:dunno: I would say calling that a win is a stretch..... I would much prefer the USA, or @ least Mex/Canada, especially regarding things considered vital, meds as an example...

You do know much of the manufacturing in Vietnam is done by Chinese owned companies??
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It's preferable to supporting Chinese CP state companies for reasons which should have been obvious before your post.
 
TSgt said:
It's preferable to supporting Chinese CP state companies for reasons which should have been obvious before your post.
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It has been obvious, you should read more before you put your foot in your mouth. Could help..

You care more about hurting china than you do about helping Americans, another sad American weakness.........:palm:
 
Bill said:
FAIL!!! You can't even address his point, well outside your bubble of make believe............ You are totally wrong....... You have no fucking clue how stupid it is to even suggest... Not even your orange anti-christ is that fuckin stupid.......... Shame on you earl.........:palm:
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Take a hike, cabron.
 
Bill said:
I don't support trump having any say in the matter but I do support divesting Fed & Calif funds from all CCP owned enterprises, in China, Viet or where the fuck ever..

Until they follow the same rules as every other company listed they should not be allowed on American exchanges-PERIOD
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The board members and chairman are nominated by the president and confirmed by the United States Senate.
 
Bill said:
It has been obvious, you should read more before you put your foot in your mouth. Could help..

You care more about hurting china than you do about helping Americans, another sad American weakness.........:palm:
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Were Americans suffering in the 90s, when our cheap goods were supplied by countries other than China?

Also, you fucking idiot, we need those countries on board to have much effectiveness in this struggle. That means trade deals which actually have some benefit to them.
 
TSgt said:
Were Americans suffering in the 90s, when our cheap goods were supplied by countries other than China?

Also, you fucking idiot, we need those countries on board to have much effectiveness in this struggle. That means trade deals which actually have some benefit to them.
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Sure sarge, you been drinking to much water out of the lower Puyallup river again...

When you get caught up get back to me, this is 2020, 30 fuckin years later...........:rolleyes:
 
TSgt said:
Were Americans suffering in the 90s, when our cheap goods were supplied by countries other than China?

Also, you fucking idiot, we need those countries on board to have much effectiveness in this struggle. That means trade deals which actually have some benefit to them.
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The hammers weren't as cheap. A country with cheap or slave labor is going to be able to produce many goods cheaper than a First World nation paying liveable wages.

The US government should act in accordance with the Preamble; act in the best interests of the nation as a whole under "general Welfare" and protect national security.

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
 
Bill said:
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Sure sarge, you been drinking to much water out of the lower Puyallup river again...

When you get caught up get back to me, this is 2020, 30 fuckin years later...........:rolleyes:
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So, that's a "no." It was not a problem for Americans when cheap goods were being manufactured in Taiwan, Indonesia, and Japan.
 
TSgt said:
So, that's a "no." It was not a problem for Americans when cheap goods were being manufactured in Taiwan, Indonesia, and Japan.
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Scroll up. I covered that part.

BTW, Japan, like the US, saw their labor costs go up so they built factories in South Korea. When I was in Korea in the early 80s, the economy was poor and highly regulated so there was a Black Market. That all went away by the 90s when the South Koreans started building South Korean-owned factories using the workers the Japanese trained and gave experience. China is the Korea of the 90s and Japan of the 60s-70s.
 
TSgt said:
So, that's a "no." It was not a problem for Americans when cheap goods were being manufactured in Taiwan, Indonesia, and Japan.
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Let it be whatever you want it to be... The problem isn't just cheap goods, a blind man can see that.... When you get educated get back to me..........
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Scroll up. I covered that part.

BTW, Japan, like the US, saw their labor costs go up so they built factories in South Korea. When I was in Korea in the early 80s, the economy was poor and highly regulated so there was a Black Market. That all went away by the 90s when the South Koreans started building South Korean-owned factories using the workers the Japanese trained and gave experience. China is the Korea of the 90s and Japan of the 60s-70s.
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Yeah, Japan was never going to remain a cheap supplier. I still remember when you could buy cheap electronic toys at Payless Drugstore, though.
 
Bill said:
Let it be whatever you want it to be... The problem isn't just cheap goods, a blind man can see that.... When you get educated get back to me..........
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American's appetite for cheap goods is why people fear the consumer impact of trade wars with China. No one gives a fuck about the NASDAQ index for the most part (for example).

If we can shift our supply chains, while keeping consumers protected, then you have the makings of a workable strategy.
 
Bill said:
As they should..........:hand:
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It has been a big problem in the auto repair business, especially low volume items, for example, pot metal emblems on some classic cars. You order the stuff through a US retailer and they don't tell you were the stuff is made. When the stuff arrives and if it has a China sticker on it, only about 1/2 the time it is satisfactory.
 
TSgt said:
Yeah, Japan was never going to remain a cheap supplier. I still remember when you could buy cheap electronic toys at Payless Drugstore, though.
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Now it's cheap electronic toys at Dollar General....made in China.
 
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