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Althea said:
You just can't stop lying. Why is that?

Solar thermal is extremely efficient, and if you bothered to read the link you would see that it is becoming more efficient in a lab setting right now.
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You cannot get more than 1.4 kw out of a square meter of ground in sunlight. That's fixed. A solar panel can never be more than 100% efficient and right now the best ones are about 20% representing about a 5% increase in efficiency over the last 20 or so years. PV solar is DC electrical power. That requires an inverter (static or dynamic) to turn it into AC. Solar doesn't work when the sun isn't shining.

Those are irrefutable facts. PV panels also work best at top efficiency when the sun is at a 90 degree angle to the panel face. When it isn't there is a decrease in efficiency. That is a fact too.

Solar thermal like at Ivanpah is so inefficient and expensive two more plants on the same design have been cancelled and there's no plans to build any more. It's actually worse than PV solar and PV solar is terrible.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Solar thermal like at Ivanpah is so inefficient and expensive two more plants on the same design have been cancelled and there's no plans to build any more. It's actually worse than PV solar and PV solar is terrible.
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Solar thermal for Hydrogen is not the same as solar thermal for electricity generation. But you know that.

Why can't you stop lying?
 
Althea said:
Solar thermal for Hydrogen is not the same as solar thermal for electricity generation. But you know that.

Why can't you stop lying?
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https://www.hydrogen.energy.gov/pdfs/review11/pd077_subramanian_2011_p.pdf

As you can see from this slide pack, solar thermal making hydrogen is a variation of solar thermal using salts or other heat transfer mediums to produce it. Ivanpah solar has pretty much conclusively proven solar thermal is so inefficient that it isn't economically competitive.

http://www.usu.edu/ipe/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/UnseeSolarFull.pdf

LADWP will be using photovoltaic, or PV, panels on the site, which means the remote project in the western Mojave Desert marks another milestone in the last few years' dramatic shift in the solar industry from solar thermal to PV. Since 2007, the price of PV has dropped dramatically, making solar thermal increasingly uncompetitive.
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https://www.kcet.org/redefine/l-a-to-break-ground-on-big-desert-solar-project
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Like you've done anything to do that other than insult me...

No links, no commentary, no discussion, just insults.
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I'm responding to your original moronic comment re. Porter. If you want to admit that you got caught up in Right Wing nonsense, we can end this portion of the debate.
 
Althea said:
I'm responding to your original moronic comment re. Porter. If you want to admit that you got caught up in Right Wing nonsense, we can end this portion of the debate.
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That solar and wind are unreliable? They are unreliable. They also aren't "renewable."
 
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