"Florida Gets Welfare From New York"

Grumpy said:
What does this say then think about your question.
"It only stands to reason New York is rich so by liberal logic it only stands to reason New York*should*pay more. "
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Meaning you believe income redistribution is fine, but I bet you'd be one of the first to scream "socialist" every time you see AOC on TV
 
Bobb said:
Porto Rico doesn't pay income taxes to the US government, yet we spend money on them just the same as any state. By making them a state, we'd get income taxes from a population that is now nothing but leeches. Granted, it wouldn't be much, given what a shithole the place is. And, granted, their two new senators would work very hard to turn the the rest of America into a shithole. We should eject them and let them be an independent shithole country.
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Haven't traveled much have you, no surprise as Trumpanese rarely do
 
Truth Detector said:
This is a moronic argument. In order for stupidity like this to have merit, one must presume that just because Florida went to a Republican, it must be all RED. But it is not. The biggest shit holes in Florida where all this presumed NY City taxes are going are Democratically controlled BLUE shit holes.

In addition, this argument is moronic simply for the fact that NO one can know where all the Federal taxes New Yorkers are paying goes. That is hyperbolic bullshit.

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Wait a minute, because New York pays more, a lot more, as do most of the Blue States, in Federal tax than gets returned while southern Red States enjoy the exact opposite relationship doesn't mean that the money the Blue States is paying in excess isn't going to Red States? Where the hell is it going then?

And for once, "truthie" didn't return with a corny copy and paste video, but given the meaning behind the song, it kinda contradicts nearly everything "truthie" bloviates
 
Grumpy said:
How many military bases does New York support versus how many bases does Florida support? That is where some of that money goes sport. It only stands to reason New York is rich so by liberal logic it only stands to reason New York should pay more. LMAO.
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Wrong again, New York State has twelve military installations to include Fort Drum and Hancock Field where currently a large percentage of ME drones are controlled. And according to conservative logic, only a person who believes in socialism would concur that the rich should pay more, how surprising of you to admit it
 
Truth Detector said:
Right after we take them away from New York, Chicago, Detroit, Atlanta, etc., etc., etc.
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Wait a minute, up above you stated all that Federal money was going to "shitholes" in Florida and now you are saying that those Blue States that pay for Florida's "shitholes" are also paying for their own and still handing cash over to Red States?
 
archives said:
Meaning you believe income redistribution is fine, but I bet you'd be one of the first to scream "socialist" every time you see AOC on TV
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Nope, I am simply stating what you fucking socialist believe. Your fucking answer to everything is tax the rich. But nice try a deflection.
 
archives said:
Wait a minute, because New York pays more, a lot more, as do most of the Blue States, in Federal tax than gets returned while southern Red States enjoy the exact opposite relationship doesn't mean that the money the Blue States is paying in excess isn't going to Red States? Where the hell is it going then?

And for once, "truthie" didn't return with a corny copy and paste video, but given the meaning behind the song, it kinda contradicts nearly everything "truthie" bloviates
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Once again, the whole "Blue State" "Red State" argument is a failure. As is your life apparently.

Cry harder you whiny little cunt. :laugh:
 
archives said:
"New York doesn’t add to Florida’s bills—we pay them. In 2017 Florida took nearly $46 billion more from the federal government than it contributed, making it the No. 2 “grantee” state in the nation. New York is the No. 1 “donor” state. In 2017 we gave the federal government $36 billion more than we got back. The curtailment of SALT deductibility takes this gross imbalance and supercharges it, costing New Yorkers another $14 billion each year."

"But SALT was never about economics. It was about politics. Its explicit purpose was to weaponize the federal tax system against predominantly Democratic states. The 12 states most hurt by the limitations on deductibility all voted against President Trump in 2016."

"GOP purports to oppose policies of “redistribution” but President Trump and the federal government are the true redistributors of wealth—not from rich to poor, but from blue states to red states."

https://www.wsj.com/articles/cuomo-florida-gets-welfare-from-new-york-11554152628

He could have also added income redistribution from the middle class to the top, amazing how the same people now supposedly hate socialism are in fact some of the greatest proponents of income redistribution

It is Red State Socialism, fact, southern red states living off the blue states dime, yet they'll be the first to label another a "socialist" or "commie," the hypocrisy couldn't be deeper

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...ate-socialism-graphic-says-gop-leaning-state/
https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700/














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Please list the states MOST hurt by elimination of SALT deduction

Also please explain why they are hurt and other states aren’t. Be very specific
 
archives said:
Wait a minute, up above you stated all that Federal money was going to "shitholes" in Florida and now you are saying that those Blue States that pay for Florida's "shitholes" are also paying for their own and still handing cash over to Red States?
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Poor triggered dumb fuck; you don't even know what it is you are arguing about anymore. :laugh:
 
Grumpy said:
Nope, I am simply stating what you fucking socialist believe. Your fucking answer to everything is tax the rich. But nice try a deflection.
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But you are all in with the Blue States subsiding Red States, so that sure as hell looks like income redistribution, a tenant of socialism
 
Sailor said:
No. Just his opinion. Democrats are good at that. Great on opinions, lacking on facts.
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Not an opinion, I gave you two sources proving such, and if you need it, several more can be supplied, it is a FACT, Blue States subsidize Red States
 
archives said:
Not an opinion, I gave you two sources proving such, and if you need it, several more can be supplied, it is a FACT, Blue States subsidize Red States
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Writing FACT in bigger letters does not make it truth. Not that I care anyway.
 
archives said:
Wrong again, New York State has twelve military installations to include Fort Drum and Hancock Field where currently a large percentage of ME drones are controlled. And according to conservative logic, only a person who believes in socialism would concur that the rich should pay more, how surprising of you to admit it
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There are 5 not 12 military bases in NY sport. Also NY has 1 of 20 drone control bases in the US. Finally I said liberal logic not that I agreed. You do understand what liberal logic is?
 
Teflon Don said:
Please list the states MOST hurt by elimination of SALT deduction

Also please explain why they are hurt and other states aren’t. Be very specific
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Got to love these guys, now they want documentation even though I gave it to them in the intial post

Let me make it real simple for you, those who can no longer deduct SALT are hurt the most, duh, which coincidentally, are the same States that even before Trump's tax debacle, were paying more in Federal Tax then was returned to the State, while the Red States enjoyed the exact opposite relationship.

Bottom line, those that can no longer use SALT are going to pay even more to subsidize Red States, some would refer to that as income redistribution, a tenant of socialism, the same socialism supposedly the natives of those Red States tell us they hate but are happy to live off other States' dime when it works for them

Got it
 
archives said:
But you are all in with the Blue States subsiding Red States, so that sure as hell looks like income redistribution, a tenant of socialism
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Nice try dumb ass blue states don't subsidize anything. You're whining that red states get a larger slice if the government pie. Hate to tell you but the majority of red states have more to do with national security. Keep crying I love it.
 
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