Electric car drives for 100 hours non-stop. MAGAs panties getting moist.

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Did you know insurance companies don't consider coal furnaces adequate home heating sources anymore? Coal furnaces produce the best in home heating. Go figure...

Insurance companies really have no say in the matter. Find an insurance company that isn't being so stupid.
As long as the home meets code, it's good.

It does conform to the code to heat a home primarily with coal (assuming the heating unit is properly installed). It's effectively considered a fireplace like device.

 

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The energy content of total annual coal consumption and production generally declined since 2005 because of decreases in demand for coal, and because of increases in the share of lower heat content coal use by the electric power sector. In 2021, coal consumption was about 11% of U.S. energy consumption.

Poor TinyPeach has another one on his bullshit lies exposed. Go change your wet panties, TinyPeach. The EV craze is making you all butthurt again.
So what kind of EV are you buying this year, TinyPeach?

While coal isn't used as much in power companies, oil and natural gas still are. You still find a lot of coal fired power plants though, particularly through Nevada eastward into the mid-west.

 

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Get rid of your computer and cell phone. They use the same metals. Of course, we all have many, many batteries around the house.

Computers use an extremely small amount of these metals. Mostly, a computer is the case, which is lightweight sheet steel and aluminum.
EVs use a LOT of these metals, just to make the huge battery packs they require.

You are again making a false equivalence fallacy, comparing a coin battery or flatpack battery (such as used in cell phone) to an EV battery pack weighing 1000 lbs or more.

 

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All the major oil companies are now investing in developing Blue Hydrogen.

So, I expect that one to be the big push!

Hydrogen is colorless and odorless.
Hydrogen must be manufactured. The so-called 'blue hydrogen' process produces hydrogen by producing CO2.
Oil companies sell oil products.

No gas or vapor has the capability to warm the Earth, including CO2. You cannot create energy out of nothing. Ignoring the 1st law of thermodynamics won't work.

 

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When we decide to do it

Who is 'we'?

 

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Interstates within 15 years, at least in the cities.

Really?? Who's going to pay for it?

 

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Exciting times. Don't you just love new technology?

Don't you just love dreaming of something for nothing?

 

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Some are very afraid of change.

Fascism and communism is not desirable change.

 

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Tesla, the world’s largest electric vehicle (EV) manufacturer, has spent the last several months making it a lot cheaper to buy an electric car.*
The company had cut prices six times this year before raising some very slightly, allowing shoppers to buy a Tesla for as low as $40,240 as of late May. For comparison, the average cost of a new vehicle in the U.S. was about $48,000, according to the latest data available in May.
According to CBC News, those moves could completely change the car industry. Don Pittis, a business columnist for the outlet, wrote that these price cuts may indicate a “global transformation in the automotive sector.”
“Cutthroat pricing by Tesla may signal [a] death blow to internal combustion vehicles,” Pittis wrote.
On average, EVs are more expensive to manufacture than vehicles with combustion engines, meaning they typically cost more. But as EV demand grows, automakers are rushing to lower production costs. Innovations in production and technology will allow manufacturers to sell electric cars at lower prices, making them more accessible.
Tesla’s price cuts could signal a price war between EVs and combustion engine vehicles, though CEO Elon Musk has denied this. Nonetheless, as EVs become cheaper, manufacturers will compete to meet the growing demand by expanding their EV offerings.*
Tesla’s first round of 2023 cuts took place in January and allowed some Tesla vehicles to qualify for a federal EV tax credit. The price reductions are dramatic and unprecedented. According to Bloomberg transportation specialist Tom Randall, “No carmaker has made such a dramatic reduction to a high-volume vehicle in the modern age of the automobile.”*
Though prices have declined in recent months, new cars are still historically expensive. Dramatic price cuts like those at Tesla provide buyers with cheaper options in a market flooded with expensive vehicles. These price cuts also put pressure on other manufacturers to lower their prices and offer more EVs to compete with Tesla’s offerings.*
As prices fall and demand drives up the supply of EVs, it will become easier and easier for drivers to switch to an EV.

I can buy TWO gasoline cars for the price of a Tesla.
And I don't have to worry about constantly charging the car.
They can carry more of a payload too, AND they can tow (a model 3 Tesla can't) AND I can maintain 'em myself with basic tools AND they carry the same or even a better warranty.

 

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When we decide to do it

The American Government

 

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I can buy TWO gasoline cars for the price of a Tesla.

You don’t have to buy a Tesla

 

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Whenever the roads under go major repair and resurfacing, which is every few years, they can add more and more electrification to them, in the same way most of the entire US first had copper wire run to most homes and then it was replaced with Fibre optic cable.

This would be a far smaller endeavor as not all roads need to be electrified. No one needs to drive a car non stop for 100 hours. If having ever 20th major road electrified and charging gets people 10-15 hours uninterrupted driving that will get 99% of the people not just to work or home easily where they can charge but also most people, including truckers to their pit stop destination where they can then fully charge.

Who's going to pay for it?

 

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How much gasoline is used their?

Who pays for it?

Each car owner pays for his own gasoline, and only as much as they use.
Who's going to pay for the electrified road? Who's going to pay for the electricity for it?

Note that you have to be moving to make wireless charging like that to work. Traffic jams like this means traffic is moving too slowly to produce an effective charge on those few with such a car.

So you still need the battery and all that weight. Your payload is still reduced. Trucks won't buy into it. They are hired to carry payload as cheaply as possible. The larger the vehicle, the worse the battery problem is.

 

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Computers use an extremely small amount of these metals. Mostly, a computer is the case, which is lightweight sheet steel and aluminum.
EVs use a LOT of these metals, just to make the huge battery packs they require.

You are again making a false equivalence fallacy, comparing a coin battery or flatpack battery (such as used in cell phone) to an EV battery pack weighing 1000 lbs or more.

You might have noticed, there are quite a few computers in America. And every house has lots of batteries for many uses. The sheer amount of batteries and computes means they use a lot more rare earth metals than EVs. You are so dishonest.
Largest users of rare earths
Magnets
Catalysts
polishing compounds
metallurgical uses
glass
Batteries
and ceramics
EVs do not have catalysts.

 

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Wait.... don't tell me you are so dumb that you think driving circles requires less energy than driving in a straight line direction? FLOL.


And by 'don't tell me', I mean, i know you are that dumb.

Nascar does not use less fuel by driving on a oval, you nitwit. The reason for the circular track is to prove the technology without having to lay road with it go in a straight line for that same distance covered.

That is a smart proof of concept.

No, it isn't. It's a specially constructed track with maybe a mile or so of specially constructed electrified roadway.

There are thousands of miles of freeways. Who's going to pay for it?

 

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You can use EV power to power a home for 3 days. https://www.capitalone.com/cars/lea...er-your-house-with-a-ford-f150-lightning/1664 See how that works ? And Evs are getting better all the time.
Oh, ICEs burn at 4 times the rate EVs do.

Using an EV to power a home means you can't drive it. You can't charge your EV when you have no power.

You are also making shit up. EVs uses far more energy, mile for mile, or watt for watt, than gasoline (currently about twice). You are AGAIN forgetting the energy losses in power generation, transformers, line losses, ballasting losses, charging losses, and finally the losses in driving the car.

 

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ZOMG. is it even possible to lay that much cable below a percent of roads in major cities...

I mean, imagine that amount of cable and all the work...

^Fibre Optic map of major cable runs across the US just for this one use.


Herp derp, i am a republiclown who will always deny any progress and suggest nothing is possible.

Horse and buggy FTW. I mean imagine thinking anyone will build roads all across the country for this new 'car' thing???

I realize you don't understand that copper is not fiber optics, and that you don't understand ohm's law, but it takes considerably MORE wiring to make electrified roadways work AND you still have to generate the additional power required AND you have to get it delivered along the entire stretch of roadway.

Individuals paid for the fiber optic system, one at a time, as they purchased phone, cable, and internet service.

Who's going to pay for electrified roadways (they ain't cheap!), and the power for them?

 

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Just guess for me how many miles of Fibre optic you think they laid?

Remember the fibre optic does not just go State to State, and town to town, but up to almost each and every individual home. OHa nd continent to continent as they also lay that shit under the ocean.

Guesstimate for me if you think that is more or less than 4 MM miles?

Okay. Try charging your car with fiber optics!

 

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OMG you are stupid. you think because Nascar drives in a circle they are incapable of driving in a straight line.

You continue to be the most stupid poster on this site.

They test THE CONCEPT on a circular track to limit the amount of road they need to electrify and the cost.

The proof of concept shows if you put the same electrification, mile for mile, under a straight road going to your work place you would get the same mileage.

You do amaze me PostmodernIdiot, as you are completely unaware that when a Tire Manufacturer wants to test longevity of newly developed tires, or they want to test how many hours they get from a new engine design, they often test these on circular tracks and go until the item breaks to find that point.


YOu as an Idiot would be standing on the sidelines laughing at them, telling them the test has no meaning as you do not drive to work in a circle, and you, as an idiot would think you said something intelligent.

Everyday you prove why you can only work as a slumlord lawyer, in the dumbest area of law possible.

So who's going to pay for it?

 

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There's no comparison between fiber optic cable installation and trying to do what this thread's OP proposes. To install an induction charging system on a highway with presumably more than one vehicle using it is a far more complex problem.

Think of it this way:

The cable laid in the roadbed is the primary of a transformer. You must use AC power to inductively couple the cable's electrical current to the vehicle for charging.

Each vehicle acts as the secondary of the transformer.

Because the cable would run down the length of the road, you would have to account for line losses in voltage due to the resistance in the cable. This means you have to periodically install buck boost transformers along the cable to bring the voltage back up to the one being used for charging.

Next, there's the problem of the amperage being drawn by charging changing dramatically with the number of cars doing so along the cable. More cars charging, more amperage, bigger cable needed.

To make it as effective as possible, you also need to get as many turns in the cable making it a coil, as possible. That gives you the strongest electric force in coupling. You might also add an iron core to the coil to increase this more. All of that makes the installation more complex, expensive and bulky.

The bottom line here is, that while this can be done experimentally on a limited length of track using a single vehicle, it would be impossibly difficult and expensive to do down miles of highway where the number of vehicles charging could vary wildly.

Well said. Also, such systems are pretty ineffective unless the cars are MOVING. In a traffic jam, it's useless.

And I STILL have no answer from any of these twits on who's going to pay for it.