Rob Larrikin
Thunderstruck
Which part of what I said wasn't true?
Can you point to one real lie Trump told, with the exact quote and link?
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Which part of what I said wasn't true?
Rob Larrikin
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Rob Larrikin
Thunderstruck
He's 72. You saw yourself when he started putting weight on. What do you think his doctors do all day? What are his advisors for? You think they're all going to let him get fat and die of a heart attack? Some doctors they'd be. Use your head.
Let’s say you decide that in a year you will go on a flying holiday around Europe. Let’s say you hate travelling by road, rail or sea, but you love jets. So you tell all and sundry about your plans for this. If your doctors then advised you that going up high in a jet could give you a brain aneurism, and as a result you decided to cancel, would you then call yourself a liar? If so you have my sympathy. Billions of others change their plans after receiving medical advice all the time, and we just call them normal people.
Fentoine Lum
Verified User
Yeah , he is dishonest.
Rob Larrikin
Thunderstruck
As you can see in this very thread, nobody so far was able to provide an example of one lie he’s told. If they did, point to the example. Remember the rules though; just one alleged lie; not a Gish Gallop, and provide a relevant and accurate link to go with it. So far all alleged lies presented have been shown to be guesses, opinions, misquotes, out of context remarks, mischievous editing, misunderstandings based on poor English, simple mistakes, jokes, fooling around, misinformation, or plain old lies themselves.
Honestly made but incorrect statements are not lies, incorrect memories leading to an incorrect number or name, etc., are not lies, and so on. It’s commonsense 101, unless English is not your first language. Then you might have trouble distinguishing them from each other. This is why immigrants sometimes misunderstand. You might say, “Hit the street,” and the Chinese guy will ask why he has to punch the road. When Trump says, “Man I could eat a thousand of these burgers today,” the same Chinese guy will say, very seriously, “He lie. He can’t eat that many burgers in one day! Trump is liar!”
Here are some things he does that convince Lefties he’s lying:
1) Says things that are hard to believe, like ‘Mexico will pay for the wall’. It’s hard to believe so Lefties screech, “It must be a lie! It must be a lie!”
2) Jokes around in private in a way fluent English speaking people understand, like when he said to some boozy friends on a bus who were egging him on, “When you’re a star they let you do anything… grab ‘em by the pussy.” English is not the first language for millions of Lefties so they think the above translates to, “This is a public announcement: I go around raping and molesting women against their wishes.” When he denies being a rapist they say, “Ay, caramba, by the holy virgin of Guadalupe’s toenails and holy Mary mother of god, the hombre eez the biggest liar! I heard him admit to eet it my own ears, or may God strike me down!”
3 Makes the occasional slip up as all humans do. In your own case you might get on a bus and hand the driver a ticket and he might say, “That’s not a ticket,” and you might say, “Yes it is,” and he’ll say, “No it aint,” so you say, “I’m sure it is,” and he’ll show it to you. Oops. You gave him your dry cleaning ticket instead. If that happens nobody makes a fuss and you forget it happened in about five minutes. If Trump makes a similar kind of mistake Trump haters will screech that he lied twice, and make a huge story to feature on politico.com and CNN, and all the Fake News outlets. “Trump lies about ticket! Trump lies about ticket!”
4) States views that others simply don’t understand. He’s a billionaire businessman and the POTUS, and he has access to all military intelligence, so he’s bound to know stuff you don’t know. It’s obvious he will say things you sometimes don’t understand. When he does, Lefties screech, “LIAR! LIAR!” because they have no concept of what his plans or ideas are.
5) Protects others. Some VIP might be giving Trump a tour of his plant, and the VIP says, “Did you know you are the first republican to win Somewheresville since 1954? “Really?” Trump believes him, and mentions this in a press gaggle. Now the press go wild with their “Trump LIED! Trump LIED! nonsense, but does Trump tell them it was the guy who owned the plant? No. He shields the man from this embarrassment. Naïve Lefties say, “He said nothing so it must be true!” Duhh.
6) Uses diplomacy and psychology to prevent wars. Putin might say, “Don’t say we spoke about the ballet as it will embarrass me,” and Trump will agree. “No worries, if anyone asks I’ll say we never spoke about it.” It’s not a lie – it’s important diplomacy and psychology to protect lives at the end of the day. Then some idiot will go and leak the information, forcing Trump to deny it, so Lefties everywhere can screech, “HE LIED! HE LIED!” and pat themselves on the back for another doubleplusgood day of Trump dissing.
That's fine - my uncle, who is the same age as Trump, keeps doing the same thing. No matter how many times you tell him that Obama's name is Obama, he calls him Osama. It's not because he's trying to be nasty, or because he hates Obama (he's a liberal, so he likes Obama). No, it's not because he's senile, if that's what you're thinking. It's because he's old, and that's what old people do. They start to forget little things. As they get older this usually gets worse. You all know this, unless you're only twenty or so. So my uncle, who is as sharp as a tack, will say, “When Osama was elected in 2008, he…” and we will say, “It’s Obama,” and he will say, “What did I say?” and we’ll say, “Osama,” and he’ll laugh. No big deal. Or he might say, "I remember back in 1994 when we all went to Halls Gap, and I climbed that huge rock on the mountain," and we'll say, "That was in the Blue Mountains, not Halls Gap," and he'll insist it was in Halls Gap. Only when we get photos and show him will he finally change his mind.
Nobody would leap up and say, “You’re a LIAR! A filthy, evil LIAR!” unless they were out of their gourd, which many Lefties are today. Obama made plenty of similarly silly mistakes during his time as POTUS but you didn’t hear about them because Fake News refused to publish them. “Oh that’s just age creeping up on him,” they’d say. “No point in making it into a story.” Of course they won’t give Trump that same courtesy because they’re a bunch of creepy little ageist pricks.
Let’s say you’re an idiot. You have my sympathy. Nobody will call me a liar.
Rob Larrikin
Thunderstruck
Fake news have paid off quite a few bimbos, sluts and whores to make up shit to throw at Trump. Nothing they say is proven; it’s all hearsay, their word against his, and gossip. If you have a proven lie Trump told, lay it out here, along with the link, and I’ll look at it.
Rob Larrikin
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Rob Larrikin
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Rob Larrikin
Thunderstruck
My grammar teacher would say your paragraph was poor, and would correct it. She’d say it should have been written:
He didn’t say that, and if he did, he didn’t mean it, but if he did, you wouldn’t have understood it, and even if you had, it would not have been a big deal, but if it was; others have said worse.
I count about 21 mistakes. Out of 37 words 21 mistakes is about 57%.
Trump speaks about 50,000 words a day off the top of his head (probably a lot more), without a script. If you spoke 50,000 unscripted, non-memorized words in a day, according to your error rate of 57%, you would make about 28,500 mistakes per day. Wow – you’ve beaten the pants off Trump’s record!
I would say that almost all people who speak 50,000 words per day, off the top of their heads, without a script, and not using memorized speech, make untrue statements. Whether it’s Floyd Mayweather, Judy Sheindlin, Robert Downey Jr., Dr. Phil McGraw or Barrack Obama. I don't think humans can do that without making mistakes.
As a 72 year old President Trump has to say that many words every day, and his work routine is exhausting. Do you think you could say those words every day so many times and never mix them up, even when you were exhausted at the age of 72? Only in the creepy world of Fake News and TDS would anyone make a fuss over Trump’s minor mistakes.
Rob Larrikin
Thunderstruck
Okay, so I guess that means you would tell your doctors to go jump in the lake, and then die of a heart attack. Good thinking Sherlock. Would you like a POTUS to be that stupid too? Apparently you would.
Here is a question for Trump sycophants who slap on their kneepads to go all out to defend Trump's lies.....
Would you accept these kinds of lies from people in your own personal dealings? Could your wife go out and stay gone all night, then come home the next day with used condoms in her purse and tell you they were planted by the Deep State --- and you believe her? doubt it..
Could your boss promise you in writing that you were up for a raise and a bonus -- then when you actually get a demotion and pay cut --- tell you that your belief of getting a raise was fake news -- would you believe it? Doubt it.
However, only in defense of your cultish devotion to a person that no one took seriously just a few years ago -- would you twist yourself into pretzels to defend BS you would never accept in any other realm of life, except religion -- and in defense of religion, that had thousands of years to cultivate -- you folks have allowed Trump to supplant all of that in just the span of a couple of years....and only with the GOP base could this have ever happened -- which is why Trump ran as a republican.
Would you accept these kinds of lies from people in your own personal dealings? Could your wife go out and stay gone all night, then come home the next day with used condoms in her purse and tell you they were planted by the Deep State --- and you believe her? doubt it..
Could your boss promise you in writing that you were up for a raise and a bonus -- then when you actually get a demotion and pay cut --- tell you that your belief of getting a raise was fake news -- would you believe it? Doubt it.
However, only in defense of your cultish devotion to a person that no one took seriously just a few years ago -- would you twist yourself into pretzels to defend BS you would never accept in any other realm of life, except religion -- and in defense of religion, that had thousands of years to cultivate -- you folks have allowed Trump to supplant all of that in just the span of a couple of years....and only with the GOP base could this have ever happened -- which is why Trump ran as a republican.
Life is Golden
It's Morning in America Again
Typical deflection noted.Another triggered, unhinged moonbat.
"He won, get over it"
Sound familiar?
I just hope that "retort" will be good enough for you to accept when the day comes that a president not from your "team" is in the white house again.
Something tells me that simply saying "he won, get over it" -- will not be good enough for you then
Old Trapper
Verified User
This is a demonstration of the brain dead right wing who Trump was referring to when he said he could shoot someone on fifth avenue, and his followers would still support him/ Matters not what the truth is, you will not believe it. Trump lied about his finding proof of Obama's birth place. He lied to his wives. He lied about TrumpU. He lied about Trump Towers being wired. If you were really interested in his lies you can do the research even though nothing said will change your mind being the Trump poodle you are.
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/
ThatOwlWoman
Not Nice
You can lead a Reichwinger to facts, but you can't make him think.
Rob Larrikin
Thunderstruck
Lefties offered alleged Trump lies and I put them up on the auto lift to check them from underneath. They were all lemons some shyster car salesman sold you. They all disappoint as soon as you check their gearboxes, differentials, oil pumps, exhausts and chassis.
You’re peddling nothing but a pile of trash.
Still, the offer remains open. If you know of one Trump lie – not dump trucks full – I’m not interested in Gish Gallops – please post it here, along with a link.
Rob Larrikin
Thunderstruck
As per the OP, you need to supply one correctly worded alleged lie, along with a correct link. Tossing links, misquotes, vague diatribe or websites as an answer is Gish Gallop, a fallacious debate tactic that focuses on overwhelming one's opponent with as many arguments as possible, without regard for accuracy or strength of the arguments. This is similar to what shoplifters do, when one distracts the shopkeeper and the other steals the goods. It is a form of distraction to take eyes off the actual argument while the user gets away with a lie.
So if you have a lie, type it out and provide a link. Just one. If you can't do that, what does it say about your so called Trump Lies?
"Not a conspiracy theory, folks. Millions and millions of people." [from your quote]
He said millions vote illegally but has no evidence to support it and no state can verify it. A state's voting records are protected by the privacy act. By claiming they will "fake" records is a cop-out. It is clear Trump lied about millions of illegal votes.