Can you point to one real lie Trump told, with the exact quote and link?

[Rob Larrikin]

"In November 2016, Trump tweeted there was "serious voter fraud" in three states that voted for Hillary Clinton, one of them California."

http://www.politifact.com/californi...utlandish-pants-fire-claims-we-fact-checked-/

Let’s take a look. Trump made some remarks at a Roundtable Discussion on tax reform on April 5, 2018, at the White Sulphur Springs Civic Center, West Virginia.

He spoke about 5,500 words. I’ll paste a tiny part of that – about one percent. Emphasis mine:

A lot of times it doesn’t matter, because in many places, like California, the same person votes many times. (Laughter.) You probably heard about that. They always like to say, “Oh, that’s a conspiracy theory.” Not a conspiracy theory, folks. Millions and millions of people. And it’s very hard because the state guards their records. They don’t want to see it.​

Here’s the same quote butchered by Fake News (politifake):

In many places, like California, the same person votes many times. You probably heard about that. They always like to say 'oh that's a conspiracy theory.' Not a conspiracy theory, folks. Millions and millions of people.​

Once again there is no ellipsis or lowercase letter at the start – instead, a capital ‘I’ that makes it look like the sentence began with “In” instead of “A”. The first eight words, “A lot of times it doesn’t matter, because…” are missing. This makes it appear there was no other conversation this was stemming from. They left out the reference to audience laughter. They left out the comma after ‘say’ and made ‘Oh’ lowercase (bad grammar), and they left out the last two sentences, “And it’s very hard because the state guards their records. They don’t want to see it.”

There was a reason Fake News left out the last two sentences. They didn’t want you to know that Trump’s whole argument is that the State do this deliberately and won’t let you see their records, and they don’t want [you] to see them.

If California was not doing what Trump says, it would be a perfect opportunity to release those records so we can all see. Even then they’ll probably be faked. Faking data is something Socialists are very good at. So the question is, why don’t they? It would be a great way for them to embarrass Trump, which they would love to do. So why not? Because the records would show they let many illegals vote – probably millions.

Regardless – this is Trump’s opinion. See the OP:

And remember, a “view” or a “belief” is not a lie. Trump might say he believes in Zeus, and you might say that’s a lie. You would be using the wrong word. He might be wrong about something, but if he believed it when he said it, it is not a lie. For instance, if he boasted that he was the greatest POTUS ever, that’s not a lie. He believes he is. So do I. Another thing that is not a lie is an exaggeration or a joke. If Trump said, “When you’re a star they let you do it… grab ‘em by the pussy,” this is not him saying he goes around raping women. That is the hysterical Left’s silly translation. Likewise, if he jokingly said, “Man, we’re gonna be the richest country for a million years,” that is not a lie – it is a harmless piece of joking or kidding around.

 

[Rob Larrikin]

Didn't Trump start a committee to uncover the illegal voting?

See my reply in post #141

 

[Rob Larrikin]

I am beginning to think ol Rob Larrikin is probably regretting starting this thread. Just an observation.

The only regret is that so far I haven't had one alleged lie that stands up under examination. You won't believe me because I'm a dreaded deplorable, but I have actually been hoping someone could find a genuine lie Trump told.

The reason they don't exist is simply that Trump is very good at placing many "exit clauses" in his speech, and this comes after many years as a businessman.

There is a reason Fake News has made a mountain of alleged lies for Trump, and its fairly easy to figure out.

It's because he doesn't lie.

There are none.

 

[rhym3pays]

So your way to defend the multitude of Trump's lies is to try to pass them off as his opinions?

For example, when he repeatedly keeps asserting he is the only republican presidential candidate to win Wisconsin since Eisenhower and claiming not even Reagan could win Wisconsin --- and even tho he has been corrected about this by his own people --- the fact he keeps lying is just him expressing his opinion?

Is that how this works? Are you that pathetic of a sycophant?

 

[Rob Larrikin]

“And we won the state of Michigan, first time since Reagan.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/?utm_term=.f78a7517999a

You left out a bunch of stuff. After Trump guessed that it was the biggest electoral college win since Ronald Reagan, an NBC reporter, Peter Alexander, pointed out the error. Trump defended himself, as Alexander continued. There were four or five levels of this defense:

1) First Trump pointed out that “Obama was “not a Republican,” which meant he was only claiming he had the biggest Electoral College victory since Reagan among Republican presidents. Then Alexander pointed out that George H.W. Bush got 426 when he won.

2) Trump then said he was given that information. Alexander continued harassing him.

3) Trump then said, “Actually, I’ve seen that information around.”

4) Various people then realized as theblaze.com pointed out, that:

“It’s possible Trump was referring to his own biography on the White House’s official website, which correctly states that Trump “won the election on November 8 of 2016 in the largest electoral college landslide for a Republican in 28 years.” That is, in fact, entirely true since former President George W. Bush barely defeated former Democratic Vice President Al Gore 271-266.”​

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As I said – it was no lie.

Now Lefties, go find a real lie instead of hanging around the bottom of the barrel with these flea-bitten examples you keep giving me.

 

[Rob Larrikin]

“Crime in Germany is up 10% plus (officials do not want to report these crimes) since migrants were accepted. Others countries are even worse. Be smart America!”
— President Trump, in a tweet, June 19, 2018

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...rime-is-up-in-germany/?utm_term=.7a7c210e414f

Crime in Germany is up, probably more than 10%, as you would except it would be, with all those third world immigrants being imported. It would be a miracle if it wasn’t. Trump explained that the German Left winged government under communist Merkel is not interested in publishing the real figures and is covering them up. You don’t think the commander-in-chief of the United States Armed Forces would know if Merkel was covering up such things? Until you have the United States intelligence machine don’t dare say your commander-in-chief is lying about such matters.

So once again – not a lie.

 

[Rob Larrikin]

The Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity, also called the Voter Fraud Commission, was a Presidential Commission established by Donald Trump that ran from May 11, 2017 to January 3, 2018 ... The establishment of the commission followed through on previous false claims by Trump that millions of illegal immigrants had voted in the 2016 United States presidential election, costing him the popular vote.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_Advisory_Commission_on_Election_Integrity

Nothing came of it.

To repeat:

See my reply in post #141

 

[evince]

he said he knew nothing about the play boy bunny

hes on tape talking about paying her asshole

 

[evince]

mexico will pay for the wall

 

[evince]

and poof


hes gone

 

[Rob Larrikin]

That's an easy one. Imagine the date sometime in 2007, Mr. Trump is giving an interview with CNN (The Clinton News Network) when asked which candidate he would support in the upcoming election cycle. His friend Rudy (Guiliani) or Clinton if they were to receive the nomination of their parties, he responded and lied his ass off, "THEY ARE BOTH TERRIFIC PEOPLE...……."

You have scored a white lie, and we all do those every day, so that’s nothing.

Definition of white lie

: a lie about a small or unimportant matter that someone tells to avoid hurting another person

He told a (little) white lie as his excuse for missing the party.​

It comes under the heading of ‘diplomacy’, ‘diplomatic relations’, ‘tactfulness’, ‘good sportsmanship’, ‘politeness, ‘decorum’, ‘manners’, ‘protocol’, ‘gentility’, ‘deportment’ and ‘breeding’.

 

[Fentoine Lum]

And they will pay for the wall. No lie there, unless you have a time machine.

I hear Nieto's check is in the mail.

 

[Rob Larrikin]

“We got 306 [electoral college votes] because people came out and voted like they’ve never seen before, so that’s the way it goes. I guess it was the biggest electoral college win since Ronald Reagan.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/?utm_term=.f78a7517999a

Already covered – see post #145

 

[Rob Larrikin]

On 3 million illegal immigrants voting: "Well, many people have come out and said I am right, you know that.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/?utm_term=.f78a7517999a

Already covered – see post #141

 

[Rob Larrikin]

“Of those [allegedly illegal] votes cast, none of ’em come to me. None of ’em come to me. They would all be for the other side…They all voted for Hillary.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/?utm_term=.f78a7517999a

Covered - see last post.

 

[Rob Larrikin]

“Between 3 million and 5 million illegal votes caused me to lose the popular vote.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/?utm_term=.f78a7517999a

Covered multiple times. Many illegals are allowed to vote, and if they're not, why do the left refuse to release their records? Why do they want to make it legal for illegals to vote?

Regardless this is Trump's opinion, and as such, it is not a lie. As the OP points out, opinions aren't lies.

 

[Fentoine Lum]

Covered multiple times. Many illegals are allowed to vote, and if they're not, why do the left refuse to release their records? Why do they want to make it legal for illegals to vote?

Regardless this is Trump's opinion, and as such, it is not a lie. As the OP points out, opinions aren't lies.

Correct, opinions are equivalent to assholes.

 

[Rob Larrikin]

Where's your proof that thousands and thousands asked about those remains? trump's words aren't proof.

The onus is on you to provide proof he lied. What you have provided is opinion. His words don't reveal any lie, as shown, just mischievous muckraking and Fake News.

So far the score is zero. No lies have been presented. Try harder.

 

[Rob Larrikin]

Sorry, you have it backwards. RL's claim is that thousands and thousands asked trump to have Korean remains returned but offered no proof except trump's words. And we all know how honest trump is.

You obviously didn’t see my post at #115. Here it is again:

And how old were these parents who asked their son be brought home?

You have a lot of people who use the word “son”. Many groups come to see Trump and they point out that their parents long wanted their sons’ remains to be brought home. They say things like, “Our parents prayed to have their son’s remains brought home, for decades. We’re here to see their wishes come true.” Trump would reply, “We’ll do our best to bring your parent’s sons home as they wished.”

After many conversations like this with so many people, in which the word ‘sons’ is used over and over, it becomes a habit to refer to ‘their sons’ in reply to the groups asking for the remains. If English were your first language this would not be hard to understand. If it isn’t, that would help explain people misunderstanding Trump. Many immigrants would not quite understand this and other nuances of the English language. Trump can, for instance, stand at a podium in front of such groups and say, “We will bring home your sons’ remains,” even though there might only be one parent in the audience, and the audience will understand exactly what he means. Many will even shed tears. Not one will leap up and screech, “LIAR! LIAR! NONE OF US ARE THE PARENTS!” though I wouldn’t put it past smallminded Trump-hating snowflakes to behave in that despicable manner.

So once again – no lie - just a nuance of the English language, a manner of speaking and a habit of using the word ‘son or ‘sons’ in regard to a particular group.

 

[Rob Larrikin]

No One...and I mean NO ONE...believes the "not" lie from the Helsinki Summit.

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