Birth Control Takes Life

HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT BIRTH CONTROL?

  • Oppose Birth Control generally

    Votes: 2 9.5%

  • Favor Birth Control

    Votes: 18 85.7%

  • Unsure how I feel about Birth Control

    Votes: 1 4.8%

  • Would like to know more about Birth Control's Effects.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    21
Thank you for posting this documentary. It is very accurate as far as it goes, but there is much that is true that is not in this film. Facts that are more relevant to the real cause and the real solution to the problems it so well outlines.

The comments by the poster of this film are to say the least not helpful, and at worst a total distortion of the entire issue, due without doubt to his preoccupation with his own politically correct mind set, and the challenges this film makes to those preconceptions.

No one has any passion to see the earth have any special number of people, I know I don't. A population of one billion or ten billion would work equally fine.

The problem is in the details of the KIND of world society that these people would live in, whatever their numbers. For example, and this is just one of many examples, we know that we are headed into a population redistribution that would inevitably wipe out whole cultures, whole languages, whole ethnicities, and whole nations, and ways of life, andon the other hand a rising dominance by a group of survivor nations, peoples etc. Is this in the long term interest of the world? It sound Hitlerian to think of whole ethnicities and groups being wiped off of the face of the earth, but that is exactly what these demographic trends and leading us directly into, if they are not better managed. As the earth's peoples downsize, certain groups are going to be exterminated and other groups are going to become dominant. Is this what any sane person wants?

I'll leave it at that for now, but many more such questions are as of now unanswered, and even not even being asked. If we are to have this downsizing it must be managed humanely and intelligently, with due respect to every group. :)
 
Rana said:
Spirit children, a Latter Day Saints belief?
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I am not a Mormon, and you are just another in a long line of yahoos who attempt to discredit my teaching by dragging in religious bigotry. Why are you such a religious hater, in this case specifically of Mormons. What a bigot you are. :)
 
Rana said:
Wanna bet, there are several instances where Yahweh commands people to kill their children and other people's children.

He also killed his own son as ransom for the souls of those who will accept him and his son, Jesus.
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That is a blood libel on Christians, without foundation in fact, by a hateful heathen bigot. :)
 
FounderChurch said:
I am not a Mormon, and you are just another in a long line of yahoos who attempt to discredit my teaching by dragging in religious bigotry. Why are you such a religious hater, in this case specifically of Mormons. What a bigot you are. :)
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I state facts nd you call me a hater and a bigot, okay, sure.
 
FounderChurch said:
Thank you for posting this documentary. It is very accurate as far as it goes, but there is much that is true that is not in this film. Facts that are more relevant to the real cause and the real solution to the problems it so well outlines.

The comments by the poster of this film are to say the least not helpful, and at worst a total distortion of the entire issue, due without doubt to his preoccupation with his own politically correct mind set, and the challenges this film makes to those preconceptions.

No one has any passion to see the earth have any special number of people, I know I don't. A population of one billion or ten billion would work equally fine.

The problem is in the details of the KIND of world society that these people would live in, whatever their numbers. For example, and this is just one of many examples, we know that we are headed into a population redistribution that would inevitably wipe out whole cultures, whole languages, whole ethnicities, and whole nations, and ways of life, andon the other hand a rising dominance by a group of survivor nations, peoples etc. Is this in the long term interest of the world? It sound Hitlerian to think of whole ethnicities and groups being wiped off of the face of the earth, but that is exactly what these demographic trends and leading us directly into, if they are not better managed. As the earth's peoples downsize, certain groups are going to be exterminated and other groups are going to become dominant. Is this what any sane person wants? I'll leave it at that for now, but many more such questions are as of now unanswered, and even not even being asked. If we are to have this downsizing it must be managed humanely and intelligently, with due respect to every group. :)
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Forced extermination? No. Assimilation? Absolutely!

If you want to talk about the Bible you don't have to look any further than the Tower Of Babel. Ever heard the expression, "Divide and conquer"?

The solution is for people to unite, not to remain in cliques and groups or nations and countries. It's time for the planet to unite. It's time to get together using logic and decide what is most beneficial for all concerned. Cold, hard facts. Take the best of a culture and throw the rest in the trash where it belongs.
 
apple0154 said:
Forced extermination? No. Assimilation? Absolutely!

If you want to talk about the Bible you don't have to look any further than the Tower Of Babel. Ever heard the expression, "Divide and conquer"?

The solution is for people to unite, not to remain in cliques and groups or nations and countries. It's time for the planet to unite. It's time to get together using logic and decide what is most beneficial for all concerned. Cold, hard facts. Take the best of a culture and throw the rest in the trash where it belongs.
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You are sounding a bit like a One World Fascist, or do I misunderstand you. I value my nation state as I am sure others do likewise. No one wants to be submerged into some international soup society. Assimilation can easily equate to extermination. That is what we did to the Indians. I don't want us Whites to become the new Indians headed to extermination swamped in a rising population of Asians, Africans and Latin Americans. Maybe you want that, I don't. I respect all ethnicities, but I want respect from them as well. I want ALL groups protected and allowing no group to swamp any other group in any way shape or form. :)
 
FounderChurch said:


Birth Control Takes Life

The greatest threat to America, Israel, and Democracies generally, is a steeply declining birthrate, so severe that by the end of this century, none of us, or our descendants, will be here, and the world will be left in the hands of dictatorships taking us back to the Dark Ages.

People may be living here in America after we are gone, as they were living here before we came, but WE who created this great nation, which is God’s last best gift to humanity, are finished demographically, and will no longer be here.

All Churches condemned birth control, and considered it murder, for more than 2000 years until 1930 when the Anglican Church at its Lambeth Conference OK'd birth control for the first time in more than 2000 years of Church history.

Under best circumstances it takes 2.2 children to just replace any population. Any group becomes statistically extinct in less than 100 years that reproduces at half of replacement. It's just simple arithmetic. By any measure this is America's last century. It's all over. People will be living here after we're gone but they won't be us, UNLESS WE CHANGE OUR WAYS DRASTICALLY. FounderChurch@Gmail.Com
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Exactly who is "us"? The population in the US has continued to grow, according to every census.

The ancient ban on birth control was a necessity to keep a tribe strong. It needed more workers/hunters ect. Later, in cultures centered around agriculture, the need for field hands was paramount. But in modern times, technology has replaced much of the need for unskilled labor, so the need for more and more workers has declined.

We can't keep the population we have employed, and you want to continue unchecked growth of the population? That makes sense to you?
 
It is impossible for humanity to continue reproducing at the current rate. Within a couple thousand years, we'd occupy every square inch of the planet. In ten thousand years, human population would exceed the mass of the known universe. No joke.

Obviously both scenarios are impossible to achieve, but if we are going to survive as a species, there will have to be population control of some sort. Education is, of course, the answer. As people become more educated, they have fewer children. Eventually the birth rate will level off even in places like India and Africa. I don't think world population will ever exceed 15 billion.

The point is, if everyone had 10 children, we'd be royally fucked as a species within a couple hundred years. I know a few families who have 12+ children. Personally, I find it very selfish on multiple fronts. The man never stops to consider that maybe, just maybe, his wife doesn't want to have her uterus occupied practically non-stop for 30 years. They also fail to consider that the planet has finite resources. Sooner or later, the party will come to an end.
 
FounderChurch said:
You are sounding a bit like a One World Fascist, or do I misunderstand you. I value my nation state as I am sure others do likewise. No one wants to be submerged into some international soup society. Assimilation can easily equate to extermination. That is what we did to the Indians. I don't want us Whites to become the new Indians headed to extermination swamped in a rising population of Asians, Africans and Latin Americans. Maybe you want that, I don't. I respect all ethnicities, but I want respect from them as well. I want ALL groups protected and allowing no group to swamp any other group in any way shape or form. :)
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So you discard the individual in favor of the identity of the ethnic group to which they belong?
 
FounderChurch said:
You are sounding a bit like a One World Fascist, or do I misunderstand you. I value my nation state as I am sure others do likewise. No one wants to be submerged into some international soup society. Assimilation can easily equate to extermination. That is what we did to the Indians. I don't want us Whites to become the new Indians headed to extermination swamped in a rising population of Asians, Africans and Latin Americans. Maybe you want that, I don't. I respect all ethnicities, but I want respect from them as well. I want ALL groups protected and allowing no group to swamp any other group in any way shape or form. :)
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Another fuckwit troll to ignore!!
 
I believe if you are against contraception and religious zealots pass laws to ban it, then these 'conservatives' must put their name on a list. When unwanted babies are born, and your name comes up on the list, you get one. Wouldn't people like Flounderchurch love a small dark skinned baby? Of course there would be weekly visits from child safety organizations to make sure these children aren't forced into child labor or abused like overly religious folks are known to do to their children. Once you get a child your name goes to the bottom of the list and when it comes to the top you get another! There will be enough children to go around about every 3 yrs. Just think Flounder, you could have 3 children within 10 yrs and more on the way! Of course the 'free market' will help you take care of these kids by making sure you make about $10 an hr. So you'll have to work 2-3 jobs and face jail time as a child abuser if you fuck up.

Birth control takes lives. LOL! what a maroon.
 
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