And so it begins: open Civil War has broken out in the GOP

Hello goat,

goat said:
Obamacare came from a conservative think tank known as the Heritage Foundation. Dems had the house and a filibuster proof supermajority in the senate, yet we the people didn't even get a public option. If not for dems being sellouts, we could've had single-payer.

Republicans had zero power yet ended up with a giant give-away to insurance companies and big pharma. You can't make this shit up.
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The Democrats could not possibly have gotten a public option or single-payer without the Republicans joining in on the legislation. Big Pharma and Big Insurance are just too powerful for either party to go up against alone. The only way to counter that kind of power would be a groundswell of grassroots power driving both parties to join together against big corporate America.

Big corporate America pits the parties against one another, alternately threatening to support the other to get whatever they want from either. And they donate to both parties so they both understand the threat is real. They don't dare go against it. No individuals can go against it, nor a small coalition. It would have to be the majority of both parties.

That's why we don't have single-payer or a public option. And even though Joe Biden made a public option a plank of his platform, it won't happen because it lacks the overwhelming support it needs. What he really meant was: "We can do this if everybody is on board, and I'll be glad to lead that." If he follows through and tries to get legislation, he will run into a brick wall, and he will give it up. I would be surprised if he ever sends down any such suggested legislation.
 
reagansghost said:
'Rationals' vs. 'radicals': Anti-Trump Republicans threaten third party

Source: Reuters

Over 100 former Republican officials will sign a letter on Thursday declaring that if the Republican Party does not break with former President Donald Trump and change course, they will back the creation of a third party.

The letter, headlined: "A Call For American Renewal," is an exploratory move toward forming a breakaway party, two of its organizers said. The group is dismayed by what it says is a modern Republican Party driven by its allegiance to Trump, who continues to falsely claim the 2020 election was stolen from him.

"The Republican Party is broken. It's time for a resistance of the 'rationals' against the 'radicals,'" said Miles Taylor, one of the organizers. Taylor, while serving in the Trump White House, wrote an anonymous opinion piece in the New York Times in 2018 headlined: "I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration."

The group first raised the threat in February, following the deadly Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol by Trump supporters to try to disrupt congressional certification of Democrat Joe Biden's presidential election victory.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/ra...-republicans-threaten-third-party-2021-05-11/


WOWZA!!
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What are they gonna call it? The RINO party?
 
Flash said:
The Federal Reserve will not be dissolved and I seriously doubt food riots. Which economists and historians predicted worse than 1929?

What would be accomplished by dissolving the Fed? It probably would become more important during an economic crisis.
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Of course it is. It's largely been the cause of many of them.
 
Micawber said:
Obamacare was a giant leap forward for liberal values. You can't leapfrog from jungle law to single payer anymore than the first space mission can
go to alpha centauri before the moon. How many millions got out of the losing end of social darwinism to having medical care? How many million exactly?
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I believe it was seven the first year, dwindling to obscurity......by the 2020 election Biden was the only candidate who still supported it and that was only because he couldn't remember what health insurance was for.......
 
goat said:
Obamacare came from a conservative think tank known as the Heritage Foundation. Dems had the house and a filibuster proof supermajority in the senate, yet we the people didn't even get a public option. If not for dems being sellouts, we could've had single-payer.

Republicans had zero power yet ended up with a giant give-away to insurance companies and big pharma. You can't make this shit up.
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you just did.....what they gave us in Obamacare was 100% demmycrat........
 
goat said:
Wall Street. The federal reserve will most likely have to be dissolved. Economists and historians are predicting worse than 1929 with food riots and all. We could see a systemic collapse -- political, economic, and social.

That's why squabbling right vs left is counterproductive.
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Bailing out Wall Street huh? FUCKING RIDICULOUS! HA! HA! HA! That would be about as stupid as bailing out every loser that ever walked out of a casino! THANKS FOR THE LAUGH!

The Federal Reserve will have to be Dissolved? WHAT KIND OF RETARDED STATEMENT IS THAT? PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY YOU THINK THEY WOULD EVER NEED TO BE DISSOLVED! OR HOW THIS WOULD WORK! DISSOLVED BY WHO? Please tell us- in your own words- what you think the FRB is!

Food riots? Fucking hilarious! NO! NO FOOD RIOTS- BUT JUST THE USUAL FOOD FIGHTS WITHIN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY! Fucking Trumptards fighting over who gets to eat the most peanuts out of Donald Trump's SHIT!

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THE ONLY THING THAT IS COLLAPSING IS THE REPUBLICAN PARTY! NAME ONE HISTORIAN OR ECONOMIST THAT IS SAYING THE US IS IN FOR AN ECONOMIC COLLAPSE! JUST ONE PLEASE!

PLEASE! IF YOU STILL HAVE A DAY JOB- FOR YOUR OWN GOOD- YOU BETTER STICK WITH THAT!

Because none of your predictions even make any sense!
 
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PoliTalker said:
Hello goat,



The Democrats could not possibly have gotten a public option or single-payer without the Republicans joining in on the legislation. Big Pharma and Big Insurance are just too powerful for either party to go up against alone. The only way to counter that kind of power would be a groundswell of grassroots power driving both parties to join together against big corporate America.

Big corporate America pits the parties against one another, alternately threatening to support the other to get whatever they want from either. And they donate to both parties so they both understand the threat is real. They don't dare go against it. No individuals can go against it, nor a small coalition. It would have to be the majority of both parties.

That's why we don't have single-payer or a public option. And even though Joe Biden made a public option a plank of his platform, it won't happen because it lacks the overwhelming support it needs. What he really meant was: "We can do this if everybody is on board, and I'll be glad to lead that." If he follows through and tries to get legislation, he will run into a brick wall, and he will give it up. I would be surprised if he ever sends down any such suggested legislation.
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PoliTalker, you are giving Biden way too much credit. He's a politician and has been a politician for nearly 50 year. Biden will look you in the eyes, shake your hand, and lie right to your face. All politicians are pathological liars. Obama only picked Biden for veep because he needed a guaranteed win in Pennsylvania. Citigroup picked Obama's entire cabinet. Not a few of them but all of them. Cornel West calls Obama the black mascot of Wall Street.

Obama received his nobel peace prize then went on to bomb 7 countries. Obama dropped so many bombs that the US ran out of bombs. Look it up. These people are psychopaths. Stop defending them. Biden doesn't care about the middle or working class. He's all for the upcoming foreclosures on something like 10 million houses. He wants to keep his bankser cronies (donors) happy. JPP dens swarm anyone daring to post the facts about Biden's dementia.
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
Bailing out Wall Street huh? FUCKING RIDICULOUS! HA! HA! HA!

The Federal Reserve will have to be Dissolved? WHAT KIND OF RETARDED STATEMENT IS THAT? PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY OR HOW THIS WOULD WORK! DISSOLVED BY WHO?

Food riots? Fucking hilarious! NO! NO FOOD RIOTS- BUT JUST THE USUAL FOOD FIGHTS WITHIN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY!

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THE ONLY THING THAT IS COLLAPSING IS THE REPUBLICAN PARTY!
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Maybe Dutch is smarter than you.
 
Lady Fingers better hire more food tasters, Dick will get revenge for his little girl Liz, make no mistake

that's one powerful wingnut, good luck to the Angry Creamsickle!
 
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