I dont understand why so many do not want to address the real problem?

Stone said:
Why dont people want to address the root problem which is WHAT drives a person like Ramos to pick up a weapon and kill children ? What caused a Black Supremacist domestic terrorist like Darrel E Brooks to run down all those people, children included , at the Christmas massacre in Waukesha? Dylan Roof shooting all those people IN CHURCH? On and on and on. Would stricter gun laws help? Maybe,...but I doubt it. They would simply use a knife, a car, a bomb like the Jihadists in Boston did, ect ect ect. The actual root cause is what needs to be addressed.
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Knifes and cars can’t kill as many people in such short time, and pulling off a bomb is no easy task, guns, especially semi automatic guns, were designed specifically for that very purpose. And shooters motivation differs from situation to situation, be it racism, anger, or just being a dimwit, there is no predictor

And wingers as yourself just don’t get it, called common sense, try to follow. There are three variables present in every mass shooting, and most shootings for that matter: the shooter, the target, and the weapon

No one can predict who the next shooter will be, and you can not protect all targets, the only variable we can control is that which makes it all possible, the gun. Not all that difficult
 
root cause - people have forgotten what is right and what is wrong

Why ?

a society that wants what it wants irrespective of any consequences.

is it any wonder that despite the handwringing and gnashing of teeth from leftists nothing changes for the better ?

looting, murder and mayhem in cities is OK

abortion as contraception is OK

f*cking anything you can find the hips on is OK

black on black (or brown on brown) murder is OK

mutalating yourself because you are scared of the opposite sex is OK EVEN FOR CHILDREN

do NOT try to tell me what I can or cannot do....

well guess what, ITS NOT OK

it was never OK nor will it ever be OK

time to grow up or shut up.

start by getting right with GOD ALMIGHTY.
 
Celticguy said:
root cause - people have forgotten what is right and what is wrong

Why ?

a society that wants what it wants irrespective of any consequences.

is it any wonder that despite the handwringing and gnashing of teeth from leftists nothing changes for the better ?

looting, murder and mayhem in cities is OK

abortion as contraception is OK

f*cking anything you can find the hips on is OK

black on black (or brown on brown) murder is OK

mutalating yourself because you are scared of the opposite sex is OK EVEN FOR CHILDREN

do NOT try to tell me what I can or cannot do....

well guess what, ITS NOT OK

it was never OK nor will it ever be OK

time to grow up or shut up.

start by getting right with GOD ALMIGHTY.
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Yes, all about Jesus. Good answer.
 
Stone said:
Why dont people want to address the root problem which is WHAT drives a person like Ramos to pick up a weapon and kill children ? What caused a Black Supremacist domestic terrorist like Darrel E Brooks to run down all those people, children included , at the Christmas massacre in Waukesha? Dylan Roof shooting all those people IN CHURCH? On and on and on. Would stricter gun laws help? Maybe,...but I doubt it. They would simply use a knife, a car, a bomb like the Jihadists in Boston did, ect ect ect. The actual root cause is what needs to be addressed.
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I'm pretty sure that we know the root cause is mental illness. But no one wants to do anything about *that*. Saint Ronnie got rid of the care homes for the insane. Now they go undiagnosed, untreated, uncared for until one snaps. A goodly number of the perpetually-homeless have mental illness. Why can't the wealthiest nation on the planet provide them with places to live, caretakers, physicians, medication, etc.? This is a complex problem with complex solutions. Banning large capacity clips and/or mags should be considered, as well as better enforcement of and creation of stricter regulations.

(This is the part where the RWers cry about freedom.) In the end you gun ppl don't want anything to do with the myriad of potential solutions. That's because dead children are just collateral damage, until it's your child lying mangled on an autopsy bench.
 
Stone said:
Why dont people want to address the root problem which is WHAT drives a person like Ramos to pick up a weapon and kill children ? What caused a Black Supremacist domestic terrorist like Darrel E Brooks to run down all those people, children included , at the Christmas massacre in Waukesha? Dylan Roof shooting all those people IN CHURCH? On and on and on. Would stricter gun laws help? Maybe,...but I doubt it. They would simply use a knife, a car, a bomb like the Jihadists in Boston did, ect ect ect. The actual root cause is what needs to be addressed.
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Americans are ignorant simpletons is the simple answer. Delving into what has gone wrong with America (and all of the West) is scary and depressing and fixing it would be so much work...actual work, something too few these days are ready for......so people just dont go there.
 
AProudLefty said:
So how would you address it?
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Glad you asked. I’ve been teaching high school and adult vocational classes for almost 17 years. The high school students I interact with are some of the sweetest, kindest, happiest and most comical people I know. Those same kids that exhibit that behavior (toward me) are the same kids that are also the most devious, deceptive and cruel people I know. Devious and deceptive comes with the territory I guess, and I suppose it was a part of my childhood too (I don’t remember that though, I just remember being a little angel), but the cruelty is usually reserved for certain cliques who engage in it to varying degrees (this is like giving a chemistry set to a 4 year old, because they don’t know the level of damage their cruelty is doing).

This is where the deception comes in. I rarely see ongoing cruelty and bullying going on, I usually see it in the form of an obviously distraught, crying student sitting with the SRO and the counselor, and that’s if we’re lucky and the kid doesn’t bottle it up and try to deal with it themselves.

At this point, in case you didn’t know, I’m talking about bullying. And the kid who’s getting bullied usually doesn’t want to be a snitch, and the bullies aren’t going to snitch on each other. Remember, “snitches get stitches”. That is the root of the problem, from my perspective. The solution? A long, difficult slog back to teaching children to interact with love and kindness and snitching.

To my knowledge, every one of these school shooters going back at least to Columbine, has been bullied, ostracized or otherwise treated differently from their peers. This is cruel on its face and can certainly engender hopelessness in the victim.

Most of these kids have a very small circle of friends. These kids need to understand abhorrent behavior among their own peers. it’s simply not normal to drive around shooting people with BB guns, cutting up your own face with a knife “for fun”, and posting pictures of guns that you own on the internet. And that phrase “I didn’t think he was serious” has got to go.

I need to say it again: the bullying has to stop, even if it means making an example Of the bully’s. Children are cruel.
 
Callinectes said:
Glad you asked. I’ve been teaching high school and adult vocational classes for almost 17 years. The high school students I interact with are some of the sweetest, kindest, happiest and most comical people I know. Those same kids that exhibit that behavior (toward me) are the same kids that are also the most devious, deceptive and cruel people I know. Devious and deceptive comes with the territory I guess, and I suppose it was a part of my childhood too (I don’t remember that though, I just remember being a little angel), but the cruelty is usually reserved for certain cliques who engage in it to varying degrees (this is like giving a chemistry set to a 4 year old, because they don’t know the level of damage their cruelty is doing).

This is where the deception comes in. I rarely see ongoing cruelty and bullying going on, I usually see it in the form of an obviously distraught, crying student sitting with the SRO and the counselor, and that’s if we’re lucky and the kid doesn’t bottle it up and try to deal with it themselves.

At this point, in case you didn’t know, I’m talking about bullying. And the kid who’s getting bullied usually doesn’t want to be a snitch, and the bullies aren’t going to snitch on each other. Remember, “snitches get stitches”. That is the root of the problem, from my perspective. The solution? A long, difficult slog back to teaching children to interact with love and kindness and snitching.

To my knowledge, every one of these school shooters going back at least to Columbine, has been bullied, ostracized or otherwise treated differently from their peers. This is cruel on its face and can certainly engender hopelessness in the victim.

Most of these kids have a very small circle of friends. These kids need to understand abhorrent behavior among their own peers. it’s simply not normal to drive around shooting people with BB guns, cutting up your own face with a knife “for fun”, and posting pictures of guns that you own on the internet. And that phrase “I didn’t think he was serious” has got to go.

I need to say it again: the bullying has to stop, even if it means making an example Of the bully’s. Children are cruel.
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Far too many youth don't have any friends, and the people they call friends are likely to be acquaintances. This gets far too little attention, how socially stunted todays youth tend to be. Mis-use of tech and helicopter parenting both have a lot to do with it.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Far too many youth don't have any friends, and the people they call friends are likely to be acquaintances. This gets far too little attention, how socially stunted todays youth tend to be. Mis-use of tech and helicopter parenting both have a lot to do with it.
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Yea they will grow up to be alky's pontificating on a message board, kind of like you
 
guno said:
Yea they will grow up to be alky's pontificating on a message board, kind of like you
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It cant be over stated how much Americans are cowards now.

America has been made into the land of the ignorant cowards by the Victim Culture Cult.
 
Fragility has a lot to do with it too, and that the Failed Elites have been mainlining fear into this society for many decades.

This son of a bitch is going down, it is now too late to save America,

Buckle Up.
 
Americans dont know how to build anymore, that is what our ancestors did.....Modern Morons know only how to condemn burn down and destroy.
 
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