I dont understand why so many do not want to address the real problem?

And 4 in 10 have always been sociopaths


And making it easy for them to kill passels of humans in seconds is stupid


Let’s melt down the guns that do that

You cant. You cant because ALL guns could do it. Guy has hunting rifle and loads several clips. Same thing. Next............
 
Because normal people could be in a room filled to the ceiling with guns and ammo and it STILL wouldnt cause them to go out and shoot a bunch of people. Or shoot anyone for that matter.

True!

But the "root cause" of the shootings...as opposed to death by knives or razors, or strangulations, or beating to death...has to be found in the guns.

Deaths by volcanic eruptions do not normally happen in areas where there are no volcanos. The number of deaths by eruptions of volcanos in the North East of the United States...is WHAT???...zero? If there are no volcanos...there are, for the most part, no volcano driven deaths.

Here in the United States, we have WAY TOO MANY shootings...multiple death shootings. There is no indication that we have more angry people than other countries with fewer of those kinds of events...or more nut cases or evil people than other countries with fewer of those events.

The "root cause" of too many shooting incidents in America...is the availability and access to guns and ammunition.

Unless I am missing something.
 
Our society is not massively unique and different from many other developed nations.

The legislative and voting history of Republicans unequivocally shows they will neither support reasonable restrictions on high capacity ammunition magazines, nor will they vote to increase funding and universal availability of mental health services.

I actually used to work with some Ukrainians several years ago. They said Americans were WiLD people. I asked what they meant.....they said capable of anything,...good or bad. Never know what your gonna get=WILD.
 
The fact that mass school shootings seems to be a uniquely American tragedy then clearly we are doing something wrong and the fact that we are drowning in guns obviously has nothing to do with it.
 
I actually used to work with some Ukrainians several years ago. They said Americans were WiLD people. I asked what they meant.....they said capable of anything,...good or bad. Never know what your gonna get=WILD.

Nope, that excuse won't work for you. America is not massively and vastly different and unique from many other first world cultures, except for the easy access to semi automatic weapons, and the lack of universal health care.
 
There is no one "root cause" for all of these things. One thing that would be more effective than more gun laws would be to upgrade school security systems. We protect our money way better than we protect our children, and children are more important.

There are some simple things that could help right off the bat, it may cost us a bit of money to implement but they are not unreachable.

For example: Simple magnetic locks that lock the door so classrooms are not open for entry by an active bad actor in the school. Surprisingly this hasn't been implemented in many schools across the nation. In our schools in my area, rural America, the schools have a system that does this making it so that if one gets past the front door lock (buzzer entry like apartments, office has the entry button) they will still have issues getting into the classroom to attack the kids/teachers.

Why do these things not happen in private schools? It isn't because they don't have bullying jackwads or folks that go there never have mental illness, it is because they have more effective security. We need to focus on keeping the kids safe rather than focusing on gun control that has proven ineffective in places like Chicago where uber-strict laws seem to make folks who follow them targets rather than protect the folks that need protection.

One thing that doesn't help are the malicious partisan idiots who pretend that if you don't want exactly whatever they want, and if you think that something else should be done, then you "do not care about children". Assuming that folks from the other side are somehow not "human" and then promoting this in an attempt to force folks into whatever you want them to do is vile, abhorrent, disgusting, malicious, and exactly opposite of trying to bring the nation together.

This idea that all this could be avoided if you just returned the US to whatever religion you believe in is preposterous.
 
The fact that mass school shootings seems to be a uniquely American tragedy then clearly we are doing something wrong and the fact that we are drowning in guns obviously has nothing to do with it.

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SCHOOL SHOOTINGS......by YOUNG PEOPLE. Young people....Young peoples state of mental health......broken homes...broken families.....Feelings of hopelessness.......Feeling unloved and unwanted...... Taught from a young age that everything comes up roses and we all get a trophy only to find out that life can be a giant kick in the ass and then the kid thinks its just HIM not doing it right.
 
The almost always missing in these sad cases is a father in the home. Lyndon Johnson's "was on poverty paid the household more if there were not two parents in the home. The internet, lack of churchgoers, and one could make the case for Facebook and the like also being a major factor.
My son-in-law just accompanied a teacher and they took 40 high school seniors camping for three days. No cell service and the kids actually talked among themselves and got to better know one another. What a concept. Some learned to cook 10lbs of bacon and fix hundreds of pancakes for breakfast.
 
Nope, that excuse won't work for you. America is not massively and vastly different and unique from many other first world cultures, except for the easy access to semi automatic weapons, and the lack of universal health care.

Excuse???? WTF? I am just telling you what they said,....how they perceived Americans.
 
There is no one "root cause" for all of these things. One thing that would be more effective than more gun laws would be to upgrade school security systems. We protect our money way better than we protect our children, and children are more important.

There are some simple things that could help right off the bat, it may cost us a bit of money to implement but they are not unreachable.

For example: Simple magnetic locks that lock the door so classrooms are not open for entry by an active bad actor in the school. Surprisingly this hasn't been implemented in many schools across the nation. In our schools in my area, rural America, the schools have a system that does this making it so that if one gets past the front door lock (buzzer entry like apartments, office has the entry button) they will still have issues getting into the classroom to attack the kids/teachers.

Why do these things not happen in private schools? It isn't because they don't have bullying jackwads or folks that go there never have mental illness, it is because they have more effective security. We need to focus on keeping the kids safe rather than focusing on gun control that has proven ineffective in places like Chicago where uber-strict laws seem to make folks who follow them targets rather than protect the folks that need protection.

One thing that doesn't help are the malicious partisan idiots who pretend that if you don't want exactly whatever they want, and if you think that something else should be done, then you "do not care about children". Assuming that folks from the other side are somehow not "human" and then promoting this in an attempt to force folks into whatever you want them to do is vile, abhorrent, disgusting, malicious, and exactly opposite of trying to bring the nation together.

This idea that all this could be avoided if you just returned the US to whatever religion you believe in is preposterous.


NEW: Uvalde doubled its spending on school security since 2017.

It hardened the school — hiring its own police force, installing fences. It created a threat reporting system & brought in social workers.

It happened anyway.
 
The almost always missing in these sad cases is a father in the home. Lyndon Johnson's "was on poverty paid the household more if there were not two parents in the home. The internet, lack of churchgoers, and one could make the case for Facebook and the like also being a major factor.
My son-in-law just accompanied a teacher and they took 40 high school seniors camping for three days. No cell service and the kids actually talked among themselves and got to better know one another. What a concept. Some learned to cook 10lbs of bacon and fix hundreds of pancakes for breakfast.

Bingo. That is another of the root causes IMO. The broken home and the millions of fatherless kids.
 
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SCHOOL SHOOTINGS......by YOUNG PEOPLE. Young people....Young peoples state of mental health......broken homes...broken families.....Feelings of hopelessness.......Feeling unloved and unwanted...... Taught from a young age that everything comes up roses and we all get a trophy only to find out that life can be a giant kick in the ass and then the kid thinks its just HIM not doing it right.

And you think American teens (almost always boys and almost always white) experience this feeling of hopelessness and unloved is unlike teens around the world? Other teens feel it but they probably have affordable mental healthcare and no access to guns.
 
Why dont people want to address the root problem which is WHAT drives a person like Ramos to pick up a weapon and kill children ? What caused a Black Supremacist domestic terrorist like Darrel E Brooks to run down all those people, children included , at the Christmas massacre in Waukesha? Dylan Roof shooting all those people IN CHURCH? On and on and on. Would stricter gun laws help? Maybe,...but I doubt it. They would simply use a knife, a car, a bomb like the Jihadists in Boston did, ect ect ect. The actual root cause is what needs to be addressed.


It won't be addressed in a socially regressive nation without socialized medicine, however.
That would be a good study. What does the average mass shooter have for health insurance?
 
NEW: Uvalde doubled its spending on school security since 2017.

It hardened the school — hiring its own police force, installing fences. It created a threat reporting system & brought in social workers.

It happened anyway.

my schools don't allow visitor access. you must get buzzed in. no way an 18 year old armed is gonna get buzzed into my kids school
 
Republicans have resisted every attempt to establish a universal health care system which provides mental health services.

Republicans also unanimously voted against Obamacare which mandated that insurance companies give coverage for mental health services.

If a person has mental health issues, go to a mental health professional.

Why does the government need to get involved. Insurance already covers this.
 
It won't be addressed in a socially regressive nation without socialized medicine, however.
That would be a good study. What does the average mass shooter have for health insurance?

Go to Venezuela if you want socialized medicine.

Carry food...and batteries.
 
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