And so it begins: open Civil War has broken out in the GOP

[Into the Night]

That is the problem, the tax rate has been dropped so much that you thinking 50% is a lot.

Between 1936 and 1981 the top marginal rate never dipped below 70 percent. In the decade after World War II, it even reached an all-time high of 90 percent on income earnings above $200,000 (or roughly $2 million in today’s dollars). Citing the prosperity of the mid-century United States, these progressive activists contend that our economy can absorb similar confiscatory rates today provided that they are only assessed on the wealthiest earners.

That decade after WWII when it reached 90%, it was under a republican president and the country did just fine. If this country did as you said and just held the high earners with a 50% tax rate and backed it up, we would not be 25 trillion in debt, we would probably be running in the black. You can thank the republican for the debt.

False equivalence fallacy. Compositional error fallacy. Presentism fallacy. The value of the dollar was quite different then, you know.

 

[Into the Night]

We can build the SLS but can no longer build the Saturn V? That makes no sense.

Actually, it does. People simply didn't want to pay for such a rocket anymore. It was expensive. To build it today would be obscenely expensive. At this point private space exploration has a much better chance of successfully building such a vehicle.

Scientists are working on materials light enough to protect electronics from being damaged by the Van Allen radiation belt but as of now there is no way to protect humans from all the harsh radiation.

Yes there is...and it's already been done. You are talking about engineering, not science.

Both the international space station and hubble telescope have to orbit below the radiation belt for obvious reasons.

Actually, they don't. While travel within the belt itself can be hard on electronics, it is practical to shield the craft from such exposure already.
The purpose of the ISS is to study the Earth, hence it's lower orbit.
The purpose of the Hubble telescope is to get a telescope above the effects of Earth's atmosphere. It simply doesn't need to fly any higher.
The GPS system flies in the gap between the 1st and 2nd belts.
Geosynchronous satellites, such as weather and communications satellites, fly within the 2nd (outer) belt. These satellites not only have better shielding, but some also have instrumentation to measure Van Allen belt activity itself.

It's fantasy to believe humans are capable of going to the moon.

They already have.

 

[Into the Night]

What does the fucking link have to do with it? Are you claiming that the tax rates I cited in my post were never that high? Search the top tax rates in the 50's and 60's for yourself asshole.

In 1950 and 1951 the top federal income tax rate was 91 percent.

In 1952 and 1953, the top federal income tax rate was 92 percent.

The top marginal tax rate in 1960 was 91%, which applied to income over $200,000 (for single filers) or $400,000 (for married filers) – thresholds which correspond to approximately $1.5 million and $3 million, respectively, in today's dollars.

Presentism fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

what a fucking stupid thing to say. No capitalism and socialism aren't countries but there are capitalistic and socialistic countries.

Capitalism and socialism are not countries. Capitalism AND socialism exist in all nations.

 

[Into the Night]

Obamacare was a massive lie promoted to dumbasses like you who think the Government is obligated to take care of whiny losers'.

I failed too.

 

[goat]

Actually, it does. People simply didn't want to pay for such a rocket anymore. It was expensive. To build it today would be obscenely expensive. At this point private space exploration has a much better chance of successfully building such a vehicle.

Yes there is...and it's already been done. You are talking about engineering, not science.

Actually, they don't. While travel within the belt itself can be hard on electronics, it is practical to shield the craft from such exposure already.
The purpose of the ISS is to study the Earth, hence it's lower orbit.
The purpose of the Hubble telescope is to get a telescope above the effects of Earth's atmosphere. It simply doesn't need to fly any higher.
The GPS system flies in the gap between the 1st and 2nd belts.
Geosynchronous satellites, such as weather and communications satellites, fly within the 2nd (outer) belt. These satellites not only have better shielding, but some also have instrumentation to measure Van Allen belt activity itself.

They already have.

I see you spent some time on Wired. The fact is that humans cannot leave low earth orbit.
1. we don't have a rocket big enough to reach the exosphere.
2. humans will die from the radiation.

 

[Into the Night]

I see you spent some time on Wired.

Never bothered with it.

The fact is that humans cannot leave low earth orbit.

They already have.

1. we don't have a rocket big enough to reach the exosphere.

Yes we do, even today.

2. humans will die from the radiation.

No, they won't. It's easily shielded.

 

[Port Tack]

False equivalence fallacy. Compositional error fallacy. Presentism fallacy. The value of the dollar was quite different then, you know.

What a jackass, 70% is 70%. The value of the dollar is compensated for when using %.

 

[Into the Night]

What a jackass, 70% is 70%. The value of the dollar is compensated for when using %.

No, it isn't. Tax brackets are based on an absolute value of income. You are forgetting that.

 

[gemini104104]

'Rationals' vs. 'radicals': Anti-Trump Republicans threaten third party

Source: Reuters

Over 100 former Republican officials will sign a letter on Thursday declaring that if the Republican Party does not break with former President Donald Trump and change course, they will back the creation of a third party.

The letter, headlined: "A Call For American Renewal," is an exploratory move toward forming a breakaway party, two of its organizers said. The group is dismayed by what it says is a modern Republican Party driven by its allegiance to Trump, who continues to falsely claim the 2020 election was stolen from him.

"The Republican Party is broken. It's time for a resistance of the 'rationals' against the 'radicals,'" said Miles Taylor, one of the organizers. Taylor, while serving in the Trump White House, wrote an anonymous opinion piece in the New York Times in 2018 headlined: "I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration."

The group first raised the threat in February, following the deadly Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol by Trump supporters to try to disrupt congressional certification of Democrat Joe Biden's presidential election victory.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/ra...-republicans-threaten-third-party-2021-05-11/


WOWZA!!

The un American GOP have been at civil war against America for decades to the point of conspiring with foreign enemies to lawlessly hacked a 45 turd in there who has ended up among his fellow seditious GOPers on the shit list of U.S. Justice.

 

[goat]

Never bothered with it.

They already have.

Yes we do, even today.

No, they won't. It's easily shielded.

Where is your evidence? You parrot the government narrative but never provide proof that humans can survive leaving lower orbit.

 

[Into the Night]

Where is your evidence? You parrot the government narrative but never provide proof that humans can survive leaving lower orbit.

I am not parroting any government narrative. I build instrumentation for space flight. The instrumentation we left on the Moon by the manned missions is still there and still operating. We are still receiving information from them. With a good telescope, you can even see some of the landing sites on the Moon's surface.

Man has already gone to the Moon, dude.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

Man has already gone to the Moon, dude.

I don't think that Alice ever did.
Ralph just liked to yell a lot.

 

[goat]

I am not parroting any government narrative. I build instrumentation for space flight. The instrumentation we left on the Moon by the manned missions is still there and still operating. We are still receiving information from them. With a good telescope, you can even see some of the landing sites on the Moon's surface.

Man has already gone to the Moon, dude.

You still believe in fairy tales. Astronauts, physicists, rocket scientists, anatomists, all provide clear evidence proving humans cannot go beyond low orbit. Space exportation is a pentagon scam to squeeze more funding out of taxpayers so the war machine can find new ways to kill people. The odds your instrumentation left lower orbit is slim to none. Your career choice makes you indirectly responsible for the death of 100 million souls.

 

[Into the Night]

You still believe in fairy tales. Astronauts, physicists, rocket scientists, anatomists, all provide clear evidence proving humans cannot go beyond low orbit. Space exportation is a pentagon scam to squeeze more funding out of taxpayers so the war machine can find new ways to kill people. The odds your instrumentation left lower orbit is slim to none. Your career choice makes you indirectly responsible for the death of 100 million souls.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Live in your little dream world, dude! I am a rocket scientist AND a physicist, and I disagree with you completely.

You can't explain why you can see equipment we built on the surface of the Moon with a good telescope.
You can't explain why we are receiving signals from instrumentation left on the Moon's surface by astronauts.
You can't even name these so-called 100 million souls. No one has sent 100 million people into space.

Rockets are not fairies.

 

[goat]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Live in your little dream world, dude! I am a rocket scientist AND a physicist, and I disagree with you completely.

You can't explain why you can see equipment we built on the surface of the Moon with a good telescope.
You can't explain why we are receiving signals from instrumentation left on the Moon's surface by astronauts.
You can't even name these so-called 100 million souls. No one has sent 100 million people into space.

Rockets are not fairies.

The very first thing they teach you in any science discipline is to leave your personal opinions at the door and report the evidence, yet all you have is personal opinion. Neil Armstrong basically admitted the moon landings were faked but you somehow know better than Neil. All the astronauts were constantly pointing out the fake moonscape, this is well documented yet instead of doing your own research, you parrot the government narrative.

To become an astronaut, one has to have some honor and code for the truth so that's why they were reluctant to be interviewed -- they knew they would have to lie.

 

[Into the Night]

The very first thing they teach you in any science discipline is to leave your personal opinions at the door and report the evidence, yet all you have is personal opinion.

Science is a set of falsifiable theories. Not a schoolroom.

I have already described the evidence. It is YOU that is imposing your personal opinion. Anyone with a reasonably powerful telescope can see the landing sites and the equipment left behind. Anyone with a radio tuned to the right frequency can hear the telemetry coming from the Moon. There are hobbyists that bounce signals off the Moon and listen in on these telemetry beacons. We can still bounce the DME laser off the reflector placed there and get an accurate reading.

Man has already been to the Moon, dude.

Neil Armstrong basically admitted the moon landings were faked but you somehow know better than Neil.

Lie. He never said any such thing.

All the astronauts were constantly pointing out the fake moonscape, this is well documented yet instead of doing your own research, you parrot the government narrative.

They never said any such thing. You are making shit up.

To become an astronaut, one has to have some honor and code for the truth so that's why they were reluctant to be interviewed -- they knew they would have to lie.

No such requirement. You are hallucinating.

 

[goat]

Science is a set of falsifiable theories. Not a schoolroom.

I have already described the evidence. It is YOU that is imposing your personal opinion. Anyone with a reasonably powerful telescope can see the landing sites and the equipment left behind. Anyone with a radio tuned to the right frequency can hear the telemetry coming from the Moon. There are hobbyists that bounce signals off the Moon and listen in on these telemetry beacons. We can still bounce the DME laser off the reflector placed there and get an accurate reading.

Man has already been to the Moon, dude.


Lie. He never said any such thing.

They never said any such thing. You are making shit up.

No such requirement. You are hallucinating.

From Wikipedia
The use of the Moon as a passive communications satellite was proposed by W.J. Bray of the British General Post Office in 1940. It was calculated that with the available microwave transmission powers and low noise receivers, it would be possible to beam microwave signals up from Earth and reflect them off the Moon. It was thought that at least one voice channel would be possible.
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We've been bouncing signals off the moon more than 20 years before Apollo 11.

No telescope can see manmade debris on the moon. You're talking out of your ass again.

Again, all the astronauts were constantly pointing out the fake moonscape. They took it upon themselves to expose such a costly hoax. Do you know why every astronaut risks their career with these defiant displays?

 

[Into the Night]

From Wikipedia
The use of the Moon as a passive communications satellite was proposed by W.J. Bray of the British General Post Office in 1940. It was calculated that with the available microwave transmission powers and low noise receivers, it would be possible to beam microwave signals up from Earth and reflect them off the Moon. It was thought that at least one voice channel would be possible.
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We've been bouncing signals off the moon more than 20 years before Apollo 11.

No telescope can see manmade debris on the moon. You're talking out of your ass again.

Again, all the astronauts were constantly pointing out the fake moonscape. They took it upon themselves to expose such a costly hoax. Do you know why every astronaut risks their career with these defiant displays?

It's done on a regular basis. People bounce radio signals off of meteors entering Earth's atmosphere. That happens about one every few seconds. Some telemetry on Earth depends on it.

The DME laser still works too. That requires the reflector the astronauts left on the Moon's surface.
The telemetry beacons still work too. You can listen to them.
The equipment is visible with a good telescope.

Man has been to the Moon.

 

[goat]

It's done on a regular basis. People bounce radio signals off of meteors entering Earth's atmosphere. That happens about one every few seconds. Some telemetry on Earth depends on it.

The DME laser still works too. That requires the reflector the astronauts left on the Moon's surface.
The telemetry beacons still work too. You can listen to them.
The equipment is visible with a good telescope.

Man has been to the Moon.

Repeat your lies enough and you start to believe them, but anyone can do a quick search and see they are lies. I don't have time to keep responding to your lies. If only you could see how silly you are.

Do you know why every astronaut risks their career to expose the moon hoax?