Support for a 3rd party at an all time high

[NiftyNiblick]

Knee-jerk reactionism, the primary characteristic of hissy-fit throwing extremists, is what makes one illogically seek radical non-solutions to age old problems, and which would only serve to create new problems in their place.

And if you don't think that we've got basically the same human-nature driven problems people have dealt with for millennia, your knowledge and understanding of humans and their history, is that of a knuckle-dragging mouth breather.



Good.
IDGAF about your worthless respect.

I find your type of tantrum thrower impossible to respect.
I always have.
I always will.
Try to grow a brain if it's not too late.

Continue to go through life bland, boring, and stupid.
You're a dim-witted centrist.
It's the best you can do.

Trying to explain things that are well beyond your capability to understand is my foolish failure in this discussion.
Sorry.

 

[Nomad]

Continue to go through life bland, boring, and stupid.
You're a dim-witted centrist.
It's the best you can do.

Trying to explain things that are well beyond your capability to understand is my foolish failure in this discussion.
Sorry.

Continue to go through life excitable, emotional and ridiculous.
You're a panty-waisted sjw.
It's the best you can do.

Trying to explain things that are well beyond your capability to understand is my foolish failure in this discussion.
Sorry.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

Continue to go through life excitable, emotional and ridiculous.
You're a panty-waisted sjw.
It's the best you can do.

Trying to explain things that are well beyond your capability to understand is my foolish failure in this discussion.
Sorry.

SJW? I would be amused to see your credentials as any kind of warrior.
Not actually asking to see them. Anonymity is a good idea for fragile people like you. But I'd be very amused.

Mine happen to be public record, but don't concern yourself.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Sure, no problem. Or we could buy oil from our good friends in Venezuela.

I'm with you on that, though.
I'd love an independent Texas.
38 fewer red electoral votes works for me.

and no more federal gun control to deal with.....

 

[NiftyNiblick]

and no more federal gun control to deal with.....

Cap one another's redneck asses to your hearts' content.
Have gang shootouts in fucking Sunday School.
It wouldn't be our problem anymore.
You're definitely onto something.

 

[Nomad]

SJW? I would be amused to see your credentials as any kind of warrior.
Not actually asking to see them. Anonymity is a good idea for fragile people like you. But I'd be very amused.

Mine happen to be public record, but don't concern yourself.

I am amused to see how much you think I or anyone else gives fat, flying, rat's ass fuck about you, your opinion or anything else that has anything to do with you.

And don't worry.

I am not, nor will I ever be, the slightest bit concerned about your... whatever it is you were yapping about, the nature of which I have already forgotten because, as I said, it is utterly meaningless to me.

As are you.

 

[blackascoal]

Fine, but police reform needs to also include an overt public education program about not fighting with them and resisting arrest, even if you feel they are in the wrong.

There are lawyers to take care of disputing charges, getting them thrown out then handling any false arrest matters later on.

Someone needs to make it very plain and clear to the people who are most susceptible to contact with the police, that fighting and resisting them will not end well.

Our perspectives on politics are so VASTLY different, not sure why or how we’re even in the same party .. which I imagine is the point. We shouldn’t be.

 

[blackascoal]

the problem with your cancel culture is you don't give a fuck who you're canceling, even if they aren't right wingers........that will be your downfall.

We aren’t the party on the way down either. Why should I give a rat’s ass about republicans and trump supporters being cancelled?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

We aren’t the party on the way down either. Why should I give a rat’s ass about republicans and trump supporters being cancelled?

I didn't say you should give a rats ass about republicans or trump supporters. I'm talking about independents or libertarians that don't agree with everything you support

 

[NiftyNiblick]

I am amused to see how much you think I or anyone else gives fat, flying, rat's ass fuck about you, your opinion or anything else that has anything to do with you.

And don't worry.

I am not, nor will I ever be, the slightest bit concerned about your... whatever it is you were yapping about, the nature of which I have already forgotten because, as I said, it is utterly meaningless to me.

As are you.

No credentials, then. Got it.

 

[blackascoal]

You don't get to speak for everyone. You are not God. You only get to speak for you.

I get to say whatever the fuck I can support with evidence. Whatever the fuck I choose to say, then you get to whine about it.

 

[Micawber]

We don't need protection from you.
You need protection from us.
We coastal sophisticates are the majority, not the Middle American shitkickers, and our patience is running low.
If we go our own way, you'll be a third world country.

"Don't push me cuz I'm close to the edge ha ha ...ha..."

 

[blackascoal]

Just because it hasn't happened yet, does not mean it won't.

If enough people get sick enough of the extremist bullshit on both sides....

So what’s stopping you?

 

[Micawber]

While I understand where Nomad is coming from, (in fact some deaths don't occur if no resistance is made), self defense
is a fundamental human right. If an arrest or detention is illegal, then the officer's force is a garden variety assault and the resistance to the assault is self defense.

Any education program should be about exactly what the law is, not to teach people not to resist abuse.
Sure as a practical matter I may fare better if I let a cop abuse me if he does, but the cops need to be taught, not me.

 

[blackascoal]

I didn't say you should give a rats ass about republicans or trump supporters. I'm talking about independents or libertarians that don't agree with everything you support

No one agrees with everything that anybody supports. I don’t base my politics on what independents or libertarians think. I base my politics on what I believe is just, fair, and best for the country. Those who agree will, and those who don’t won’t. Pretty simple formula.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

No one agrees with everything that anybody supports. I don’t base my politics on what independents or libertarians think. I base my politics on what I believe is just, fair, and best for the country. Those who agree will, and those who don’t won’t. Pretty simple formula.

so you don't care who gets cancelled, just support your shitty beliefs or else. got it

 

[NiftyNiblick]

Independents, libertarians, and other obscure non-players do not manifest a foundation upon which one can base one's politics.

Politics are to based on self-interest viewed through the lens of education and awareness of the human condition.

What's in one's long term self-interest isn't knowable on instinct. Difficultly acquired leaning, acute observation, broad experience, and above all, an adequate measure of intelligence
is essential to knowing what's in one's long term self-interest.

There is very valid reason why trumpanzees vote in almost perfect opposition to their own self interests.

 

[Nomad]

Our perspectives on politics are so VASTLY different, not sure why or how we’re even in the same party .. which I imagine is the point. We shouldn’t be.

The reason for your confusion is simple.

You are part of the spectrum that, like the tea-baggers on the opposite end, are too narrow-minded and self interested to even consider the idea that other people exist in the same world as you and their concerns carry the same weight as yours.

The extreme leftists want to dump anyone who doesn't toe their rigid line into the same category as the alt-right.

To the sjw's, there is no difference between a regular, everyday guy like me who understands that hamstringing the police is a recipe for more lawlessness, and some hood and robe wearing Klansman who hates people because of their ethnicity.

So no, we shouldn't be in the same party.

If the Dems want to go full blown sjw, then common sense centrists like me should defect to a third party and hopefully be joined by an equal number of moderate Repubs.

Let the sjw's and the teabaggers fling shit at each other while we smart people in the center compromise and find workable solutions.


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[Nomad]

While I understand where Nomad is coming from, (in fact some deaths don't occur if no resistance is made), self defense
is a fundamental human right. If an arrest or detention is illegal, then the officer's force is a garden variety assault and the resistance to the assault is self defense.

Any education program should be about exactly what the law is, not to teach people not to resist abuse.
Sure as a practical matter I may fare better if I let a cop abuse me if he does, but the cops need to be taught, not me.

The police have a legal, constitutional right to detain and arrest anyone they have reasonable suspicion may have committed a crime.

They are not required to be right every single time because it is understood that police are human and humans make mistakes.

That is why remedies for false arrest are built into the system.

Nobody has any legal right to fight with the police and resist arrest.

Plus, it is just plain ignorant and stupid to do so.

 

[Geeko Sportivo]

It has completely to do with why there's a lack of campaign funding reform. All the general ellection coverage is slanted to eithe tge demonicrats or to the replutocan facists. What stops them the system is rigged. This is tge facts of the matter. A one dimensional dychotomy of extremism is no dicotomy at all. A false dichotomy only exists to disenfranchise and exploit rational people. Look how either side of these lower life form junky parrots take tge stage to delegitimize the obviousness tgat you cant triangulate the truth from only two moving relitive points. It takes either of the two parties to actually have some dignity first before we can establish a third major party. And before tgey could manage to grow any dignity first they must suffer the fruits of madness they're both growing together. We're getting closer but first step is to force foreign controlled domest infotainment to be subject to the american people.

They should be forced at 20% owned by foreign powers to have public comment fields or be subject to debilitating overlays when delivering data to domestic ip addresses. At 40% those feilds ahould be totaly unmoderated. Theres no reason to try to task law enfircment to do whay they cannot and police the infotainment soam. The american people can do far better to police infmotainment on it's own. This would cause american diversity in the biz and firce more diverse forgein funding at the same time. We cant have an american media then we cant have an american culture.

There are only two kinds of people in America now- THOSE THAT SUCK UP TO DONALD TRUMP- AND THOSE THAT VOTED HIM OUT OF OFFICE BECAUSE THEY FOUND HIM TO BE UNACCEPTABLE AND UNFIT FOR PUBLIC SERVICE.

HINT HINT! I DID NOT VOTE FOR TRUMP!