Support for a 3rd party at an all time high

The reason for your confusion is simple.

You are part of the spectrum that, like the tea-baggers on the opposite end, are too narrow-minded and self interested to even consider the idea that other people exist in the same world as you and their concerns carry the same weight as yours.

The extreme leftists want to dump anyone who doesn't toe their rigid line into the same category as the alt-right.

To the sjw's, there is no difference between a regular, everyday guy like me who understands that hamstringing the police is a recipe for more lawlessness, and some hood and robe wearing Klansman who hates people because of their ethnicity.

So no, we shouldn't be in the same party.

If the Dems want to go full blown sjw, then common sense centrists like me should defect to a third party and hopefully be joined by an equal number of moderate Repubs.

Let the sjw's and the teabaggers fling shit at each other while we smart people in the center compromise and find workable solutions.


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The reason for your confusion is that you don’t know much about politics. How about you “smart people in the center” getting behind Manchin/Sinema for President 2024. See if that works. No one with half a brain or who knows anything about politics would think that a winning combination. But maybe you do.

You won’t have to worry about solutions because you wouldn’t be in office.

Don’t like progressives in the Democratic Party? What are you waiting on to leave? Why not?
 
You can say what you want, but you don't get to speak for anybody else. Just for you. You are not God.

You can say what you want, but you don’t get to tell me shit, about any fucking thing. Who is God? Obviously you and I neither know nor serve the same perception of God. The God I know tells me I can say whatever I want as long as I back it up with evidence and context. Who are you to dispute God?
 
The reason for your confusion is that you don’t know much about politics. How about you “smart people in the center” getting behind Manchin/Sinema for President 2024. See if that works. No one with half a brain or who knows anything about politics would think that a winning combination. But maybe you do.

You won’t have to worry about solutions because you wouldn’t be in office.

Don’t like progressives in the Democratic Party? What are you waiting on to leave? Why not?

I find it interesting that the majority of Americans support Progressive policies and yet folks who consider themselves left of center fail to acknowledge that.

Working-Class Americans in All States Support Progressive Economic Policies
https://www.americanprogressaction....states-support-progressive-economic-policies/

 
The reason for your confusion is that you don’t know much about politics. How about you “smart people in the center” getting behind Manchin/Sinema for President 2024. See if that works. No one with half a brain or who knows anything about politics would think that a winning combination. But maybe you do.

You won’t have to worry about solutions because you wouldn’t be in office.

Don’t like progressives in the Democratic Party? What are you waiting on to leave? Why not?

I won't leave the Democratic party as long as my state has closed primaries because I'd be giving up my primary vote by becoming an independent.

I'll wait until 2024 to start considering who I'll vote for in the next Presidential election.

If the Democrats keep moving to the left I will consider voting for a more moderate candidate.

One thing I do not have to do, is resort to hurling insults every time someone expresses a view that I disagree with.

Like you do.

If you are so insecure in your beliefs that you get your feelings hurt whenever they are challenged or opposed in a civilized exchange of ideas and start acting like a child, then your beliefs are automatically suspect.

AFAIC, you are the one who knows nothing about politics, because you seem to think that the kind of pie-in-the-sky ideas pitched by Old BS in the last two election cycles are what the majority of the country wants, despite the fact that he got his old socialist ass kicked by Democrat primary voters both times.

The majority of the American people are reasonable centrists who we never hear from or hear about because we go about our daily lives quietly and without a lot of fuss and drama. We are also getting sick and tired of all the squeaky wheel bullshit we get subjected to by both the extremist camps and which is pandered to by the news media.
 
I find it interesting that the majority of Americans support Progressive policies and yet folks who consider themselves left of center fail to acknowledge that.

Why did Old BS get his old socialist ass handed to him in the last two primaries then, genius? :laugh:
 
pfffft, you're a delusional idiot if you believe, EVEN FOR A SECOND, that trump was going to end democracy, idiot

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What's the difference between a libertarian and an anarchist?

They both seek freedom from social responsibility.

They're both, in practical terms, non-participants in the political process.

Politics is not a process.

Libertarians tend to desire a minimalist government. They support the Constitution of the United States and the constitutions of the various States, but want to see government limit itself solely to the authorizations and powers listed in these documents.

Which is what it should be anyway.

Of course, people have lived so long with the federal government agencies and programs that are far beyond the Constitution, and have even become dependent on it, so moving back to Constitutional government is going to be too big a change all at once.

Republicans also desire to see Constitutional government, but realize it's going to take a while to get back to it. That's really the biggest difference between what you call the 'tea party' and the Libertarians. They have the same ultimate goal, but the Libertarians tend to be impatient about it.

An anarchist wants no government at all. No constitution, no States, no federal government, no nothing...not even a government by popular vote (democracy). Such a scenario would mean no police, no army, no government taxes, no anything. It is, essentially, lawlessness.

A recent example of anarchy was CHAZ in Seattle (at least initially). It then tried to evolve into a democracy. in a short time, one faction became stronger than the others and it started to become an oligarchy. The breakdown between factions in CHAZ resulted in several shootings, and the destruction of CHAZ from within.

Similar patterns can be seen in other CHAZ attempts (currently in Portland, OR and in Minneapolis).
 
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Nobody hates Biden. :rolleyes: You scum will have to generate that from nothing, or spin it from straw or whatever crap you do to convince yourselves of things.
 
Your concept of freedom has no value to me. As a result, your freedom has no value to me.
A rather selfish attitude.
Civilization requires a social construct that curtails a measure of individual freedom to facilitate communal stability and quality of life.
True anyway. You are free, for example, to jump naked into Arctic waters, but that's not accomplishing anything.
The earth is running out of wilderness where your kind can ran about in loincloths and be free.
There is plenty of wilderness. Is this your goal to run about in loincloths? Perhaps you might better enjoy a nudist camp or nude beach. They do exist, you know.
If you like civilization, however, you need to be clueless to embrace libertarianism as modern libertarians would describe it.
I don't think you understand the goals of the Libertarian party.
I do like civilization and thus believe, as a Democrat, in democratic government.
Democrats do not want a democracy. They want an oligarchy. This is what Democrats are now implementing so they can implement socialism and fascism.
The United States was never organized as a democracy. It was organized as a federated republic.
 
You can say what you want, but you don’t get to tell me shit, about any fucking thing.
I am not telling what to say. You just don't to speak for anyone else but you.
Who is God?
Ask yourself.
Obviously you and I neither know nor serve the same perception of God.
So?
The God I know tells me I can say whatever I want as long as I back it up with evidence and context.
And I have no problem with that. You just can't speak for anyone else. You can only speak for you. You are not everyone else. You are not anyone else. You can only speak for you.
Who are you to dispute God?
I am not disputing God.
 
I won't leave the Democratic party as long as my state has closed primaries because I'd be giving up my primary vote by becoming an independent.

I'll wait until 2024 to start considering who I'll vote for in the next Presidential election.

If the Democrats keep moving to the left I will consider voting for a more moderate candidate.

One thing I do not have to do, is resort to hurling insults every time someone expresses a view that I disagree with.

Like you do.

If you are so insecure in your beliefs that you get your feelings hurt whenever they are challenged or opposed in a civilized exchange of ideas and start acting like a child, then your beliefs are automatically suspect.

AFAIC, you are the one who knows nothing about politics, because you seem to think that the kind of pie-in-the-sky ideas pitched by Old BS in the last two election cycles are what the majority of the country wants, despite the fact that he got his old socialist ass kicked by Democrat primary voters both times.

The majority of the American people are reasonable centrists who we never hear from or hear about because we go about our daily lives quietly and without a lot of fuss and drama. We are also getting sick and tired of all the squeaky wheel bullshit we get subjected to by both the extremist camps and which is pandered to by the news media.

You don't get to speak for the majority of Americans. You only get to speak for you. You are not the anyone else but you.
 
When Democracy is at stake- Those intent on keeping it- WILL ALWAYS VOTE AGAINST THOSE INTENT ON DESTROYING IT!

There is nothing idiotic about that!

there is when you're confused about which party is intent on destroying it.......perhaps the last 100 days has made you realize your mistake......
 
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