Corona Virus Peak Watch Thread
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PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Yesterday was not a good day.
Almost 47K New Cases.
Over a thousand deaths.
And the number of Active Cases is not falling.
Was the recent high point a peak or a shelf?
Time will tell.
Almost 47K New Cases.
Over a thousand deaths.
And the number of Active Cases is not falling.
Was the recent high point a peak or a shelf?
Time will tell.
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
Shelf. Super spreader events, be they Left or Right, just or not, will see a resurgence of hotspots. 80% the deaths will be the parents and grandparents of the infected.
Everyone with a relative in the over-65 group should give them a call, tell them they're loved and many any amends now because it's a coin toss if they'll be around by Christmas.
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello Dutch Uncle,
Hard to imagine having a traditional Halloween, Thanksgiving or Christmas this year.
Hard to imagine having a traditional Halloween, Thanksgiving or Christmas this year.
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
Too bad our nation didn't have better leadership from the get go. It would have increased the odds of having a more traditional holiday season.
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello Dutch Uncle,
I know.
It's just going to be weird. Hard to imagine how Halloween can happen. Many who would have previously put the light on and stocked up will not be wanting little visitors at the door. And many parents are not going to be wanting to let their kids go from door to door.
But then there will be the deniers who try to pretend everything is OK.
Too bad we don't have concise consistent leadership. The unpredictability is tearing us up.
I know.
It's just going to be weird. Hard to imagine how Halloween can happen. Many who would have previously put the light on and stocked up will not be wanting little visitors at the door. And many parents are not going to be wanting to let their kids go from door to door.
But then there will be the deniers who try to pretend everything is OK.
Too bad we don't have concise consistent leadership. The unpredictability is tearing us up.
Dutch Uncle
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New evidence from the NY TIMES........it appears all those tests are providing up to 90% false positives for being contagious that require lockdown and separation.
www.dailywire.com/news/ny-times-up-...19-no-longer-contagious-don't-need-to-isolate
Scientific Facts from the left. CDC....only 6% of the declared dead have actually died from Covid 19. Now it turns out.....all those positive tests are faulty in determining contagion.
HOAX: something intended to deceive.......deliberate trickery intended to gain an advantage. How do you stop TRUMP RALLY'S? How do you shut down a vibrant economy. How do you make people FEAR something that is virtually nothing more than the seasonal flu? How do you promote the corrupt practice of mail in balloting?
Our resident medical janitor used the same lie and link. Are you two related? Ralph, you should educate yourself on what "false positive" means in order to avoid looking stupid. The link says nothing about false positive. What it says is that people who indicate positive for the virus may not be infected enough to warrant isolation and contact tracing.
With better education, you might be able to allay your fears. Feel free to ask others for help.
From your link:
The most used test to determine if someone has COVID-19, known as a PCR test, is either positive or negative, that’s it. But the test does not identify the viral load — the greater the amount of virus, the more likely it is that the patient is contagious.
“In three sets of testing data that include cycle thresholds, compiled by officials in Massachusetts, New York and Nevada, up to 90 percent of people testing positive carried barely any virus,” The New York Times reported Sunday after conducting a review of data.
On Thursday, the United States recorded 45,604 new coronavirus cases, according to a database maintained by The Times. If the rates of contagiousness in Massachusetts and New York were to apply nationwide, then perhaps only 4,500 of those people may actually need to isolate and submit to contact tracing.
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
Agreed, but it's been headed that way since the 1990s. IMO, once the Cold War ended, the political parties had to reinvent themselves. What they did was reinvent themselves into political nutjobs for very narrow "anti"causes: anti-gays and anti-abortion on the Right and anti-guns and anti-middle and upper class on the Left.
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello Dutch Uncle,
If the science was better our society would not be so impacted.
The best case would be an instant results free at-home test. If everybody knew every day whether or not they were a walking death spreader we could easily contain the virus.
But we don't have that. So we have to assume the worst and take appropriate precautions.
Better safe than sorry.
If the science was better our society would not be so impacted.
The best case would be an instant results free at-home test. If everybody knew every day whether or not they were a walking death spreader we could easily contain the virus.
But we don't have that. So we have to assume the worst and take appropriate precautions.
Better safe than sorry.
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Friday
9-11
USA
Total Cases 6,636,247
New Cases +46,600
Total Deaths 197,421
New Deaths +1,094
Total Recovered 3,917,962
Active Cases 2,520,864
Serious, Critical 14,347
Tot Cases/1M pop 20,026
Deaths/1M pop 596
Total Tests 90,845,706
Tests/1M pop 274,136
9-11
USA
Total Cases 6,636,247
New Cases +46,600
Total Deaths 197,421
New Deaths +1,094
Total Recovered 3,917,962
Active Cases 2,520,864
Serious, Critical 14,347
Tot Cases/1M pop 20,026
Deaths/1M pop 596
Total Tests 90,845,706
Tests/1M pop 274,136
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
While technology helps, if a culture is so politically-biased that they deny the science, then no amount of science can fix the problem.
It's like the flu vaccine; it's a best guess of the top three major strains but even the most vulnerable, our elderly, only see 60% of them getting vaccinations. Why? It's not cost since it's covered.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/fluvaxview/coverage-1718estimates.htm
Among adults aged ≥18 years, coverage was 37.1%, 6.2 percentage points lower than coverage during the 2016–17 season (43.3%; Figure 1).
Coverage for 2017-18 was lower for every age group compared to the 2016–17 season (Figure 2). For all adult age groups, flu vaccination coverage estimates in the 2017–18 season were at their lowest levels compared with the seven prior flu seasons. For the 2017-18 season, flu vaccination coverage increased with age, from 26.9% among adults 18-49 years to 59.6% among adults ≥65 years (Figure 2).
There was large between-state variability in flu coverage among adults, ranging from 29.2% in Louisiana to 46.3% in West Virginia (Figure 3). The decrease in coverage among adults for 2017-18 compared to 2016-17 occurred in 37 states; in 13 states and DC the coverage did not change from the last season.
Among adults, coverage during the 2017–18 season decreased for all racial/ethnic groups compared with the 2016–17 season except for American Indian/Alaska Natives (Table 1). Similar to the 2016–17 season, significant differences in flu vaccination coverage were observed between racial/ethnic groups: Non-Hispanic white adults and Asian adults had higher coverage than all other racial/ethnic groups; Hispanic adults had lower flu vaccination coverage than all other racial/ethnic groups.
Among adults, 78% of vaccinations during the 2017–18 season had been received by the end of November, similar to the 2016–17 season (77%) (Figure 4). Coverage by end of November 2017 was 3.0 percentage points lower than by end of November 2016; by end of January 2018, coverage was 5.5 percentage points lower compared with January 2017.
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello Dutch Uncle,
The problem with the Coronavirus vaccine is Trump keeps pushing it and everybody knows it is being rushed.
The moment Trump says it is safe, the majority of America immediately suspects he is lying.
A lot of people are going to initially refuse to get vaccinated.
Hopefully, after 6 months or so with no side effects, more people will begin to trust it.
And then there is another wrinkle. It may have to be repeated. It could be that the immune effect only lasts a few months.
This isn't going to be easy. The government may have to offer to pay people to get vaccinated.
The problem with the Coronavirus vaccine is Trump keeps pushing it and everybody knows it is being rushed.
The moment Trump says it is safe, the majority of America immediately suspects he is lying.
A lot of people are going to initially refuse to get vaccinated.
Hopefully, after 6 months or so with no side effects, more people will begin to trust it.
And then there is another wrinkle. It may have to be repeated. It could be that the immune effect only lasts a few months.
This isn't going to be easy. The government may have to offer to pay people to get vaccinated.
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
Trump is a fucking moron and well known bullshitter. That doesn't mean the heads of all the medical and research companies are fucking morons too. Do you really think they'll accept the liability of pushing a flawed vaccine onto the market?
They've all gone on record saying they won't offer a flawed vaccine. If the "usual suspects" don't trust the science, experts and the CDC, then that's their problem. Evolution in action.
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Trump is pushing them to get something out.
Even if it is not fully tested, Trump wants it out under an
Emergency Use Authorization:
"It is up to the sponsor [vaccine developer] to apply for authorisation or approval, and we make an adjudication of their application," Hahn told the Financial Times. "If they do that before the end of Phase Three, we may find that appropriate. We may find that inappropriate, we will make a determination."
Hahn noted that an EUA is not the same as FDA approval.
"Our emergency use authorisation is not the same as a full approval," he said. "The legal, medical and scientific standard for that is that the benefit outweighs the risk in a public health emergency."
FDA leader says agency could consider authorization for Covid-19 vaccine before Phase 3 trials are complete, Financial Times reports
They issued one of those for Chloroquine, too, before it was withdrawn.
Even if it is not fully tested, Trump wants it out under an
Emergency Use Authorization:
"It is up to the sponsor [vaccine developer] to apply for authorisation or approval, and we make an adjudication of their application," Hahn told the Financial Times. "If they do that before the end of Phase Three, we may find that appropriate. We may find that inappropriate, we will make a determination."
Hahn noted that an EUA is not the same as FDA approval.
"Our emergency use authorisation is not the same as a full approval," he said. "The legal, medical and scientific standard for that is that the benefit outweighs the risk in a public health emergency."
FDA leader says agency could consider authorization for Covid-19 vaccine before Phase 3 trials are complete, Financial Times reports
They issued one of those for Chloroquine, too, before it was withdrawn.
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Active cases have risen again.
Seems like every time we start to make some progress, people think it's OK to forget all about it and cause another setback.
Seems like every time we start to make some progress, people think it's OK to forget all about it and cause another setback.
All the super spreader events and Labor Day!
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Saturday
9-12
USA
Total Cases 6,676,601
New Cases +39,282
Total Deaths 198,128
New Deaths +707
Total Recovered 3,950,354
Active Cases 2,528,119
Serious, Critical 14,366
Tot Cases/1M pop 20,147
Deaths/1M pop 598
Total Tests 91,703,503
Tests/1M pop 276,720
9-12
USA
Total Cases 6,676,601
New Cases +39,282
Total Deaths 198,128
New Deaths +707
Total Recovered 3,950,354
Active Cases 2,528,119
Serious, Critical 14,366
Tot Cases/1M pop 20,147
Deaths/1M pop 598
Total Tests 91,703,503
Tests/1M pop 276,720
Darth Omar
Russian asset
Cases are rising even with masks being worn just about everywhere lol?
I saw where there’s something like 36,000 cases on college campuses but they never report on the rate of hospitalizations with the affected 19-24 year olds. Not sure why that is. Actually, I do know why that is.
Then there’s the bit about positive PCR tests ringing up outrageously high numbers of effectively false positives. That got memory holed. So when one hears about 36,000 cases on college campuses—what’s that actually mean?
At any rate, the Sun Belt proved spikes can be put in the rear view mirror without undo ‘inconvenience’ to affected economies and societies.
So, we press on. If it weren’t for the teachers unions the school kids could have at least a semblance of normalcy. Their lives and futures are literally being damaged—but not by the virus.
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello Darth,
When teachers die from COVID-19 that is most certainly an 'undue inconvenience.'
Deaths are more than an inconvenience. They are an end of life.
When teachers die from COVID-19 that is most certainly an 'undue inconvenience.'
Deaths are more than an inconvenience. They are an end of life.