Corona Virus Peak Watch Thread

[Darth Omar]

Deaths yesterday were held to under 600.

At this point that's probably a good thing.

Here is a very good thing:

Active Cases dropped yesterday!

Are we finally peaking???

Farr’s Law lol.

 

[PoliTalker]

If yesterday was really a significant peak (at last) then we should see the number of Active Cases begin to drop and continue dropping day after day.

We know it's got to happen sooner or later.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Deaths yesterday were held to under 600.

At this point that's probably a good thing.

Here is a very good thing:

Active Cases dropped yesterday!

Are we finally peaking???

Unlikely, unfortunately. That's probably either a testing or reporting anomaly. But if it continues for a week, then we can start feeling hopeful.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Darth,

Farr’s Law lol.

I don't see this as a laughing matter at all.

People are dying needlessly because of indifference and stupidity.

If only we had better leadership...

 

[PoliTalker]

Unlikely, unfortunately. That's probably either a testing or reporting anomaly. But if it continues for a week, then we can start feeling hopeful.

We've seen this before. If a State has been sitting on statistics, or changes the way they count things, then all of a sudden there is a disruption of the curve. That could very well be the case.

Or maybe people are really starting to get it.

After all, DT finally started wearing mask.

And the more people who die, the more people who know someone who died.

When it starts to hit closer to home people start to take things seriously.

A lot of people blew off the guidelines and had July 4th parties. If they realize they messed up, or knew somebody who did, they may be getting remorseful and finally taking things seriously.

 

[Darth Omar]

Hello Darth,



I don't see this as a laughing matter at all.

People are dying needlessly because of indifference and stupidity.

If only we had better leadership...

It’s always been a question of ‘how many’, exactly.

Maybe at some point there will be an audit of some of the records. Or not.

 

[moon]

Daft Omar61;3817335]It’s always been a question of ‘how many’, exactly.

Haw, haw......................haw.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Darth,

It’s always been a question of ‘how many’, exactly.

Maybe at some point there will be an audit of some of the records. Or not.

Do you think it's more than 61?

 

[Darth Omar]

Hello Darth,



Do you think it's more than 61?

61 lol.

Do you recall that I pointed out that a third of the 61 deaths came from a single nursing facility in Washington State? This was in March.

What percentage of COVID deaths involve nursing home residents in August? How much lower would our totals be had Democrat governors properly ‘interpreted the March data’ and protected their nursing facilities accordingly?

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Darth,

61 lol.

Do you recall that I pointed out that a third of the 61 deaths came from a single nursing facility in Washington State? This was in March.

What percentage of COVID deaths involve nursing home residents in August? How much lower would our totals be had Democrat governors properly ‘interpreted the March data’ and protected their nursing facilities accordingly?

Ya know what that sounds like?

It sounds like an attempt to just flat deny there is a crisis.

Looking for any way to challenge the validity of even a small portion of deaths.

People who act like that change their views when someone close to them dies.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

61 lol.

Do you recall that I pointed out that a third of the 61 deaths came from a single nursing facility in Washington State? This was in March.

What percentage of COVID deaths involve nursing home residents in August? How much lower would our totals be had Democrat governors properly ‘interpreted the March data’ and protected their nursing facilities accordingly?

I'm guessing there's a few weasels in your family tree. LOL

What I recall is you posting these and hundreds of posts in a similar vein: https://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?136426-Death-by-Corona-numbers-explode-to-61

WV has 5 deaths and we peak on Easter.

It’s not going to keep until November lol. Just sayin.

It surpassed that and now the 60,000 deaths are being celebrated because it may finally mean the end of Trump.

How’d OH turn out with their 100,000 COVID cases?

If flu deaths were counted like COVID-19 deaths, the worst recent flu season evidently killed 15,620 Americans
The Week
Peter Weber
,The Week•May 1, 2020

The U.S. now has more than 63,000 confirmed COVID-19 deaths, and most experts say that's almost certainly an undercount. Still, if you compare that number to the 2017-18 flu season, which the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimates killed 61,000 people, it looks like COVID-19 might be similar to a bad flu — President Trump has made this point, as have many conservative media personalities. But the data so far show that this new coronavirus is much more lethal than the flu, and Dr. Jeremy Samuel Faust has an explanation.

Faust, a Harvard Medical School instructor and emergency physician at Brigham & Women's Hospital in Boston, wrote in Scientific American that he started wondering about the flu-to-COVID comparisons when it occurred to him that in nearly eight years of hospital work, "I had almost never seen anyone die of the flu." Neither had any of the colleagues he called around the country. So he did some research, and this is what he found:

The 25,000 to 69,000 numbers that Trump cited do not represent counted flu deaths per year; they are estimates that the CDC produces by multiplying the number of flu death counts reported by various coefficients produced through complicated algorithms. These coefficients are based on assumptions of how many cases, hospitalizations, and deaths they believe went unreported. In the last six flu seasons, the CDC's reported number of actual confirmed flu deaths — that is, counting flu deaths the way we are currently counting deaths from the coronavirus — has ranged from 3,448 to 15,620. [Jeremy Faust, Scientific American]

So in an apples-to-apples comparison, matching the second week of April's COVID-19 deaths to the worst week of the past seven flu seasons, "the novel coronavirus killed between 9.5 and 44 times more people than seasonal flu," Faust writes. Read his entire essay at Scientific American.

I read that and get the impression I’m being baffled with bullshit lol.

 

[Darth Omar]

Uncle Carp is getting an early start lol.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Darth,

Uncle Carp is getting an early start lol.

Why try to downplay the crisis?

That is not helpful.

People need to take this seriously.

We need everyone on board.

Our best chance to deal with the pandemic comes from all of us working together.

We are all on the same side in this one.

The coronavirus doesn't care about politics.

No good can come from trying to make it political.

 

[Darth Omar]

Hello Darth,



Why try to downplay the crisis?

That is not helpful.

People need to take this seriously.

We need everyone on board.

Our best chance to deal with the pandemic comes from all of us working together.

We are all on the same side in this one.

The coronavirus doesn't care about politics.

No good can come from trying to make it political.

I’ll let that irony stand on its own merits lol.

At the end of the day the virus is a natural phenomenon that can only be mitigated by degrees. Like all other natural phenomena, it will run its course.

See: Farr’s Law.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Darth,

I’ll let that irony stand on its own merits lol.

At the end of the day the virus is a natural phenomenon that can only be mitigated by degrees. Like all other natural phenomena, it will run its course.

See: Farr’s Law.

Humans are a factor. When humans act in a coordinated way, they can affect the outcome.

I notice you never comment on Taiwan. A perfect example of humans acting in a coordinated way to affect the outcome.

 

[Darth Omar]

Hello Darth,



Humans are a factor. When humans act in a coordinated way, they can affect the outcome.

I notice you never comment on Taiwan. A perfect example of humans acting in a coordinated way to affect the outcome.

What is the population of Taiwan? How many ports of entry do they have? How many cities with populations over one million?

You can’t expect the same outcome everywhere. You see where DeSantis is getting ready to relax FL nursing home visitation standards because their numbers are improving?

There appears to be a trend where one state or region ‘gets hot’; numbers peak, level off then start to drop. Keep in mind this is going on *without* the degree of mitigation we had in late March/April.

A few hospitals get their ICU beds full but the numbers start to fall off before it reaches a critical mass. Our hospitals have done a great job of adapting to the situation. Practically every hospital has a contingency to convert beds from standard medical care to critical care beds.

This is what winning looks like—given what was handed to us—from the communist government of China

 

[PoliTalker]

Another big day for dying in America yesterday.

Tuesday

8-4

USA

Total Cases 4,918,420

New Cases +54,504

Total Deaths 160,290

New Deaths +1,362

Total Recovered 2,481,680

Active Cases 2,276,450

Serious, Critical 18,407

Tot Cases/1M pop 14,851

Deaths/1M pop 484

Total Tests 61,619,037

Tests/1M pop 186,055

 

[CFM]

The thread I want to see on this topic is a list of lefties on this forum that succumb to it.

 

[PoliTalker]

Oops. No peak yet. We had a slight dip on the way up, but we are still on the rise.

Another false alarm.

The pandemic is still getting worse, spreading further.

It is still out of control.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Darth,

What is the population of Taiwan? How many ports of entry do they have? How many cities with populations over one million?

You can’t expect the same outcome everywhere. You see where DeSantis is getting ready to relax FL nursing home visitation standards because their numbers are improving?

There appears to be a trend where one state or region ‘gets hot’; numbers peak, level off then start to drop. Keep in mind this is going on *without* the degree of mitigation we had in late March/April.

A few hospitals get their ICU beds full but the numbers start to fall off before it reaches a critical mass. Our hospitals have done a great job of adapting to the situation. Practically every hospital has a contingency to convert beds from standard medical care to critical care beds.

This is what winning looks like—given what was handed to us—from the communist government of China

160,000 dead Americans is not what winning looks like.

Calling that 'winning' is what self-fooling and blind allegiance looks like.

Taiwan and Florida have roughly the same population. Each with cities and metro areas in the millions. Taiwan was right in the cross-hairs with thousands of daily commuters back and forth to Wuhan. They immediately shut that down, didn't wait. Huge economic impact, but it was worth it. Then they required every traveler coming in to quarantine for 2 weeks, gave them 14 masks, required them to record their temperature several times per day and report it. Each quarantined person was monitored to ensure compliance with the rules. Drastic times call for drastic measures. Taiwan has 7 deaths total compared to 6500 in Florida. Taiwan does have the advantage of being an island, but most travel is by air, similar to Florida. Florida is a peninsula, which could easily create checkpoints at the mainland border. DeSantis is a Trump lackey sycophant apologist. He failed to take the needed decisive action and paid the price. His approval is way down, just like DT. Both could very likely end up being one-term wonders because they screwed this up so badly.