Death by Corona numbers explode to 61

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Darth Omar said:
Well Professor, Doc Birx is on record saying COVID deaths are recorded differently than flu deaths. They’re going as far as to label ‘probable COVID death’. If a patient was probably going to expire in ten days, regardless of any other factor, but they caught a cold that went into a secondary pneumonia, do they record that as a ‘cold death’? A ‘cold-related’ death, maybe?

Why is it necessary record COVID deaths by a different metric? If someone tests positive for COVID but falls in front of a bull dozer, is that a COVID death, too?

What exactly should be done, is open parts of the damn country up before we plunge into a full blown Depression.
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Yeah, I'm sure in your world many people die of colds. Since you failed provide an actual link of what Birx said and given your propensity for twisting the truth, I'm sure there's more to the "story".

Obviously COVID deaths would be reported differently than flu, cancer or car accident deaths. You know, because they had COVID-19.

It's pure conspiracy theory nonsense to say a person who died of cancer is being classified as a COVID death due to a super-secret Democrat, commie, Deep State plan to take down Trump.
 
archives said:
People don't die directly because of the flu, rather illnesses as pneumonia or heart problems brought on because of the flu, how is this any different than the coronavirus?
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Flu can be lethal to a frail person. It’s why they recommend flu shots. As a matter of fact, the *tens of thousands* of flu deaths every year primarily involve that part of the population.

But here is Birx:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...we_are_counting_that_as_a_covid-19_death.html
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Yeah, I'm sure in your world many people die of colds. Since you failed provide an actual link of what Birx said and given your propensity for twisting the truth, I'm sure there's more to the "story".

Obviously COVID deaths would be reported differently than flu, cancer or car accident deaths. You know, because they had COVID-19.
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I keep expecting you to give up accusing me of making crap up but you never fail to disappoint.
 
Sailor said:
Yawn. Liberals are the most needy, lazy mother fuckers on this planet. Always need a handout of some sort.
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Well, except for Trump, I completely agree they are at least the second neediest, lazy mother fuckers on the planet.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Yeah, I'm sure in your world many people die of colds. Since you failed provide an actual link of what Birx said and given your propensity for twisting the truth, I'm sure there's more to the "story".

Obviously COVID deaths would be reported differently than flu, cancer or car accident deaths. You know, because they had COVID-19.

It's pure conspiracy theory nonsense to say a person who died of cancer is being classified as a COVID death due to a super-secret Democrat, commie, Deep State plan to take down Trump.
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COVID deaths have been undercounted.

Washington Post:

“The covid-19 death toll is widely believed to be an undercount because testing has been severely limited. Some states add “probable" covid-19 deaths in their count because, though the deceased was never tested, their symptoms lined up and they were exposed to the novel coronavirus. Other states have refused to add anyone to the toll who wasn't tested”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/inve...a84ae0-7991-11ea-a130-df573469f094_story.html
 
Darth Omar said:
I keep expecting you to give up accusing me of making crap up but you never fail to disappoint.
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You can expect me to do the same to anyone who calls their opinions "facts" and refuses to post links to what they say others said. In short, I don't trust your word, your judgment nor your honesty on anything political.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
You can expect me to do the same to anyone who calls their opinions "facts" and refuses to post links to what they say others said. In short, I don't trust your word, your judgment nor your honesty on anything political.
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But you whiffed on that one, didn’t you lol.
 
domer76 said:
COVID deaths have been undercounted.

Washington Post:

“The covid-19 death toll is widely believed to be an undercount because testing has been severely limited. Some states add “probable" covid-19 deaths in their count because, though the deceased was never tested, their symptoms lined up and they were exposed to the novel coronavirus. Other states have refused to add anyone to the toll who wasn't tested”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/inve...a84ae0-7991-11ea-a130-df573469f094_story.html
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The Reichwingers will demand that we use scarce tests to make sure the dead really died of COVID, rather than save them for the living. That's how important their orange god is to them.
 
domer76 said:
COVID deaths have been undercounted.

Washington Post:

“The covid-19 death toll is widely believed to be an undercount because testing has been severely limited. Some states add “probable" covid-19 deaths in their count because, though the deceased was never tested, their symptoms lined up and they were exposed to the novel coronavirus. Other states have refused to add anyone to the toll who wasn't tested”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/inve...a84ae0-7991-11ea-a130-df573469f094_story.html
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Undercounting would be expected, especially in rural areas where there is no testing as noted in the article below:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bi...avirus-as-covid-19-deaths-regardless-of-cause
Asked whether the numbers could skew data the government is trying to collect, Birx said that would mostly apply more to rural areas where testing isn't being implemented on a wide scale....

...Dr. Michael Baden, a Fox News contributor, said it's reasonable to include the death of someone infected with the virus, who also had other health issues, in the COVID-19 body count.

"In the normal course, autopsies would then determine whether the person died of the effects of the COVID virus, whether the person had a brain tumor or brain hemorrhage for example that might be unrelated to it and what the relative significance of both the infection and the pre-existing disease is," Baden told Fox News.

However, the number of autopsies being performed could be low due to the danger of infection, he said.

"Then you will include in those numbers some people who did have a pre-existing condition that would have caused death anyway, but that's probably a small number," Baden said.

Darth Omar said:
But you whiffed on that one, didn’t you lol.
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Wrong again. I knew you were spinning the truth as Dr. Baden from Fox News notes above.
 
domer76 said:
COVID deaths have been undercounted.

Washington Post:

“The covid-19 death toll is widely believed to be an undercount because testing has been severely limited. Some states add “probable" covid-19 deaths in their count because, though the deceased was never tested, their symptoms lined up and they were exposed to the novel coronavirus. Other states have refused to add anyone to the toll who wasn't tested”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/inve...a84ae0-7991-11ea-a130-df573469f094_story.html
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At best, they are cancelled out by Doc Birx’s commandment that anyone who dies *with COVID* gets counted as a COVID death.

Why is that necessary again? I seem to have missed the explanation.

I wonder how many people have died waiting for their coronary artery stents?

Anyone have that number?
 
Darth Omar said:
At best, they are cancelled out by Doc Birx’s commandment that anyone who dies *with COVID* gets counted as a COVID death.

Why is that necessary again? I seem to have missed the explanation.

I wonder how many people have died waiting for their coronary artery stents?

Anyone have that number?
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ROFLMAO.. I would guess fewer than during normal times because there isn't a wait for operating rooms. The real problem is people having a heart attack and afraid to go the hospital. But those aren't being counted as Covid deaths.
 
Darth Omar said:
At best, they are cancelled out by Doc Birx’s commandment that anyone who dies *with COVID* gets counted as a COVID death.
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Misrepresentation ^ and even if true would be pretty reasonable assumption. These folks are puking up their lungs and having aneurisms from coughing.:palm:

You just want to tamp down on the numbers to cover for the Orange retard criminal.
 
Darth Omar said:
Flu can be lethal to a frail person. It’s why they recommend flu shots. As a matter of fact, the *tens of thousands* of flu deaths every year primarily involve that part of the population.

But here is Birx:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...we_are_counting_that_as_a_covid-19_death.html
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I think they count those similarly. If you had flu and died in the hospital with flu you died "of flu"

This wouldn't be a problem for anyone not trying to cover Trump's wide ass and tiny dick from public scrutiny.
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
ROFLMAO.. I would guess fewer than during normal times because there isn't a wait for operating rooms. The real problem is people having a heart attack and afraid to go the hospital. But those aren't being counted as Covid deaths.
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Operating rooms are shut down—for elective surgeries, across the nation.

And it’s grotesque. And yes, people are going to die on account of it.
 
Micawber said:
I think they count those similarly. If you had flu and died in the hospital with flu you died "of flu"

This wouldn't be a problem for anyone not trying to cover Trump's wide ass and tiny dick from public scrutiny.
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Someone who dies ‘with flu’ doesn’t count as a flu death.

Birx said anyone who dies ‘with COVID’ gets counted.

Still waiting for an explanation for it. Padding the stats, is one explanation. You have another?
 
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