Death by Corona numbers explode to 61

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ThatOwlWoman said:
It's too bad you left Stretch out of the list of liars and false-witness-bearers here. She has insisted that Biden is a pedophile, among other things. In the next breath the liar quotes scripture to show how Christian she is.

Faux Xtians abound.

I don't think that I've ever seen a politician that inspires so much loyalty, even to the point of degrading oneself by lying and defaming others in order to defend him. Some of these ppl literally debase themselves in order to stick up for the most corrupt and unChristian IMPOTUS we have ever been plagued with. It's both fascinating and repulsive at the same time.
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She also claims that Michelle Obama is really a man. When she first came out with that I thought she was joking, but she's dead serious. :|
 
Has this thread become a safe space for lefties or is it just my imagination lol?

And shouldn’t I get some sort of award for the most bumped-thread in JPP history?
 
We have more ventilators than needed. 2 ships not needed. And, the numbers?
projected grand total of hospitalized for Covid is 62k

hospitalized for flu?
490k 2019
810k 2018
 
Stretch said:
We have more ventilators than needed. 2 ships not needed. And, the numbers?
projected grand total of hospitalized for Covid is 62k

hospitalized for flu?
490k 2019
810k 2018
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10% of middle aged people hospitalized with COVID will die.
40% of elderly people hospitalized with COVID will die.
 
domer76 said:
10% of middle aged people hospitalized with COVID will die.
40% of elderly people hospitalized with COVID will die.
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The far Right doesn't care....unless it happens to them. They'll keep playing the "more people died of the flu" tune until the numbers exceed flu deaths then they'll change their song to some other deflection.

It wasn't that long ago when it was "37,000 flu deaths" but when the COVID-19 deaths started racking up, they changed it to "67,000" deaths, which is the high end of suspected flu deaths last year as noted below. Not the low end or even the middle, but the high end.

In short, don't expect honesty much less a scientific response. They'll spin whatever tale Trump wants them to tell.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2018-2019.html
CDC estimates that influenza was associated with more than 35.5 million illnesses, more than 16.5 million medical visits, 490,600 hospitalizations, and 34,200 deaths during the 2018–2019 influenza season. This burden was similar to estimated burden during the 2012–2013 influenza season.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm
24,000 – 62,000 flu deaths

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/hea...ronavirus/coronavirus-disease-2019-vs-the-flu
Deaths
COVID-19: Approximately 127,601 deaths reported worldwide; 26,059 deaths in the U.S., as of Apr. 15, 2020.*

Flu: 291,000 to 646,000 deaths worldwide; 12,000 to 61,000 deaths in the U.S. per year.

The COVID-19 situation is changing rapidly. Since this disease is caused by a new virus, people do not have immunity to it, and a vaccine may be many months away. Doctors and scientists are working on estimating the mortality rate of COVID-19, but at present, it is thought to be higher than that of most strains of the flu.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
The far Right doesn't care....unless it happens to them. They'll keep playing the "more people died of the flu" tune until the numbers exceed flu deaths then they'll change their song to some other deflection.

It wasn't that long ago when it was "37,000 flu deaths" but when the COVID-19 deaths started racking up, they changed it to "67,000" deaths, which is the high end of suspected flu deaths last year as noted below. Not the low end or even the middle, but the high end.

In short, don't expect honesty much less a scientific response. They'll spin whatever tale Trump wants them to tell.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2018-2019.html
CDC estimates that influenza was associated with more than 35.5 million illnesses, more than 16.5 million medical visits, 490,600 hospitalizations, and 34,200 deaths during the 2018–2019 influenza season. This burden was similar to estimated burden during the 2012–2013 influenza season.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm
24,000 – 62,000 flu deaths

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/hea...ronavirus/coronavirus-disease-2019-vs-the-flu
Deaths
COVID-19: Approximately 127,601 deaths reported worldwide; 26,059 deaths in the U.S., as of Apr. 15, 2020.*

Flu: 291,000 to 646,000 deaths worldwide; 12,000 to 61,000 deaths in the U.S. per year.

The COVID-19 situation is changing rapidly. Since this disease is caused by a new virus, people do not have immunity to it, and a vaccine may be many months away. Doctors and scientists are working on estimating the mortality rate of COVID-19, but at present, it is thought to be higher than that of most strains of the flu.
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They follow Trump’s lead. It’s all about desperately finding a scapegoat to avoid responsibility.

Blame the Chinese
Blame WHO
Blame the governors
Blame New York
 
domer76 said:
They follow Trump’s lead. It’s all about desperately finding a scapegoat to avoid responsibility.

Blame the Chinese
Blame WHO
Blame the governors
Blame New York
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True, but that's the Trump motto: never accept personal responsibility, find someone else to blame.
 
Cypress said:
April 16

USA Coronavirus Cases:
673,215

Deaths:
34,384
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We are creeping up on the anticipated annual death-from-influenza number:

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ThatOwlWoman said:
We are creeping up on the anticipated annual death-from-influenza number:

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Almost 40 thousand dead in four weeks does not sound like the common cold to me. I am surprised Fox and jpp conservatives tried to make that analogy. If I was not a charitable person, I might think rightwingers were willfully lying to me!
 
Cypress said:
Almost 40 thousand dead in four weeks does not sound like the common cold to me. I am surprised Fox and jpp conservatives tried to make that analogy. If I was not a charitable person, I might think rightwingers were willfully lying to me!
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Well, they aren’t paying strapped-for-cash hospitals to report ‘flu-related deaths’ either, so there’s that lol.
 
Hello moon,

moon said:
President Virus wants to blame the WHO.


Haw, haw, haw, haw...........................haw.
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He wants to blame the WHO when it's really You-Know-Who.

Who's Next?


Well, at least half of the nation didn't get fooled again...
 
Darth Omar said:
Well, they aren’t paying strapped-for-cash hospitals to report ‘flu-related deaths’ either, so there’s that lol.
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Dude, all deaths are reported by "cause of death" along with the medical records.

I've asked you to be straight forward before and you declined but let's try it again: What, exactly do you think should be done? Just go back to what the US was doing February 15th? Open all the doors and go about our business? If so, why doesn't Trump just order it done?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Dude, all deaths are reported by "cause of death" along with the medical records.

I've asked you to be straight forward before and you declined but let's try it again: What, exactly do you think should be done? Just go back to what the US was doing February 15th? Open all the doors and go about our business? If so, why doesn't Trump just order it done?
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Well Professor, Doc Birx is on record saying COVID deaths are recorded differently than flu deaths. They’re going as far as to label ‘probable COVID death’. If a patient was probably going to expire in ten days, regardless of any other factor, but they caught a cold that went into a secondary pneumonia, do they record that as a ‘cold death’? A ‘cold-related’ death, maybe?

Why is it necessary record COVID deaths by a different metric? If someone tests positive for COVID but falls in front of a bull dozer, is that a COVID death, too?

What exactly should be done, is open parts of the damn country up before we plunge into a full blown Depression.
 
Darth Omar said:
Well Professor, Doc Birx is on record saying COVID deaths are recorded differently than flu deaths. They’re going as far as to label ‘probable COVID death’. If a patient was probably going to expire in ten days, regardless of any other factor, but they caught a cold that went into a secondary pneumonia, do they record that as a ‘cold death’? A ‘cold-related’ death, maybe?

Why is it necessary record COVID deaths by a different metric? If someone tests positive for COVID but falls in front of a bull dozer, is that a COVID death, too?

What exactly should be done, is open parts of the damn country up before we plunge into a full blown Depression.
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People don't die directly because of the flu, rather illnesses as pneumonia or heart problems brought on because of the flu, how is this any different than the coronavirus?
 
Darth Omar said:
Well Professor, Doc Birx is on record saying COVID deaths are recorded differently than flu deaths. They’re going as far as to label ‘probable COVID death’. If a patient was probably going to expire in ten days, regardless of any other factor, but they caught a cold that went into a secondary pneumonia, do they record that as a ‘cold death’? A ‘cold-related’ death, maybe?

Why is it necessary record COVID deaths by a different metric? If someone tests positive for COVID but falls in front of a bull dozer, is that a COVID death, too?

What exactly should be done, is open parts of the damn country up before we plunge into a full blown Depression.
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Liberals cannot comprehend people working is what pays the taxes that keeps this country going. That whole welfare mentality thing they got going on.
 
Cypress said:
Almost 40 thousand dead in four weeks does not sound like the common cold to me. I am surprised Fox and jpp conservatives tried to make that analogy. If I was not a charitable person, I might think rightwingers were willfully lying to me!
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I'm not a bit nice and don't mind calling them what they are -- fucking liars.
 
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