Birth Control Takes Life

[FounderChurch]

Exactly who is "us"? The population in the US has continued to grow, according to every census.

The ancient ban on birth control was a necessity to keep a tribe strong. It needed more workers/hunters ect. Later, in cultures centered around agriculture, the need for field hands was paramount. But in modern times, technology has replaced much of the need for unskilled labor, so the need for more and more workers has declined.

We can't keep the population we have employed, and you want to continue unchecked growth of the population? That makes sense to you?

What I say makes sense to those who can understand things, to others it does not. You are entirely missing my point, perhaps in ignorance, perhaps intentionally, what does it matter.

I WILL TRY CAPS ON YOU. THAT MIGHT HELP. I SAID, I DON'T CARE WHAT THE POPULATION OF THE EARTH IS, 1 BILLION, OR 6 BILLION, WHAT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT IS HOW IT IS DIVVIED UP, HOW IT IS MANAGED, AND WHAT THE RESULTS OF ALL THIS MANAGEMENT, OR LACK OF MANAGEMENT IS. THAT SEEMS TO BE A CONCEPT BEYOND YOU.

You are off babbling about our need, or lack of need for workers and so forth. Let me tell you something so you will at least know one thing. Never in the history of the world, past, present, or future is there, or will there be, any lack of work for any number of workers. The work of the world is unlimited, whereas people are always limited. Yes, there is bad management of societies where an artificial shortage of jobs seems to exist, but it has no basis in reality. The work of the world that needs to be done is always limitless. Stop listening to your dumb biased teachers and learn things on your own.

 

[FounderChurch]

So you discard the individual in favor of the identity of the ethnic group to which they belong?

Yes! The individual by himself is a loser loner lone wolf piece of drifting and dreaming crap, and totally worthless to himself and society. Fit anyone you know?

 

[FounderChurch]

Another fuckwit troll to ignore!!

Is that all you've got? What Grammar School did you drop out of, or get kicked out of?

 

[FounderChurch]

Well listen children, I think you have all had your little say, and I have certainly had mine. Let's sign off, and call it a day. BYE BYE!

 

[Rationalist]

Still waiting for a response to this:

It is impossible for humanity to continue reproducing at the current rate. Within a couple thousand years, we'd occupy every square inch of the planet. In ten thousand years, human population would exceed the mass of the known universe. No joke.

Obviously both scenarios are impossible to achieve, but if we are going to survive as a species, there will have to be population control of some sort. Education is, of course, the answer. As people become more educated, they have fewer children. Eventually the birth rate will level off even in places like India and Africa. I don't think world population will ever exceed 15 billion.

The point is, if everyone had 10 children, we'd be royally fucked as a species within a couple hundred years. I know a few families who have 12+ children. Personally, I find it very selfish on multiple fronts. The man never stops to consider that maybe, just maybe, his wife doesn't want to have her uterus occupied practically non-stop for 30 years. They also fail to consider that the planet has finite resources. Sooner or later, the party will come to an end.

 

[Canceled.2014.1]

What I say makes sense to those who can understand things, to others it does not. You are entirely missing my point, perhaps in ignorance, perhaps intentionally, what does it matter.

I WILL TRY CAPS ON YOU. THAT MIGHT HELP. I SAID, I DON'T CARE WHAT THE POPULATION OF THE EARTH IS, 1 BILLION, OR 6 BILLION, WHAT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT IS HOW IT IS DIVVIED UP, HOW IT IS MANAGED, AND WHAT THE RESULTS OF ALL THIS MANAGEMENT, OR LACK OF MANAGEMENT IS. THAT SEEMS TO BE A CONCEPT BEYOND YOU.

You are off babbling about our need, or lack of need for workers and so forth. Let me tell you something so you will at least know one thing. Never in the history of the world, past, present, or future is there, or will there be, any lack of work for any number of workers. The work of the world is unlimited, whereas people are always limited. Yes, there is bad management of societies where an artificial shortage of jobs seems to exist, but it has no basis in reality. The work of the world that needs to be done is always limitless. Stop listening to your dumb biased teachers and learn things on your own.

That is a nice vague nonanswer.

You obviously want some to reproduce and and afraid of some doing so. So who is the "us"?

Ok, let me rephrase, while you claim the work is limitless the pay is obviously not. So unless you want people to have children they cannot afford to feed, let them make their own choices about whether they reproduce or not.

 

[Canceled.2014.1]

Well listen children, I think you have all had your little say, and I have certainly had mine. Let's sign off, and call it a day. BYE BYE!

So you post outlandish nonsense, refuse to answer questions, and then bail out?

lol TROLL!

 

[PostmodernProphet]

I would say that you are against contraception, care to say different?

sure, and I could point out that you're a fool for making that assumption.....I am not against contraception.....why on earth would I be?.....

 

[PostmodernProphet]

It's almost always been impossible to get a straight answer out of you so no change here. I'll leave you to it as I'm off to Wales for the weekend.

not only are you a fucking idiot for thinking I'm against contraception, you're a fucking idiot for assuming I have to hang around here and answer your questions within five minutes........not to mention being a fucking idiot for traveling to Wales....

 

[Canceled.2014.1]

Well listen children, I think you have all had your little say, and I have certainly had mine. Let's sign off, and call it a day. BYE BYE!

So you call it a day, then 10 minutes later post in another thread? Sounds much more like you are avoiding a debate/discussion.

 

[Rune]

Yes, I have a point in regard to your meaningless point. The Bible says, "Woe must come into the world, BUT woe unto him that brings that woe. The Bible endorses just godly war, but nowhere does it endorse Believers taking the lives of their own children by any means, direct or indirect.

Why would you follow this sentence with a smily face? Are you insane?

 

[Rationalist]

Well, suffice it to say it doesn't look like my point is going to be addressed by FounderCult.

It is impossible for humanity to continue reproducing at the current rate. Within a couple thousand years, we'd occupy every square inch of the planet. In ten thousand years, human population would exceed the mass of the known universe. No joke.

Obviously both scenarios are impossible to achieve, but if we are going to survive as a species, there will have to be population control of some sort. Education is, of course, the answer. As people become more educated, they have fewer children. Eventually the birth rate will level off even in places like India and Africa. I don't think world population will ever exceed 15 billion.

The point is, if everyone had 10 children, we'd be royally fucked as a species within a couple hundred years. I know a few families who have 12+ children. Personally, I find it very selfish on multiple fronts. The man never stops to consider that maybe, just maybe, his wife doesn't want to have her uterus occupied practically non-stop for 30 years. They also fail to consider that the planet has finite resources. Sooner or later, the party will come to an end.

 

[FounderChurch]

FounderChurch is Back due by popular request. Fine. Love you all. I must say, my views have hardly changed a single micro millimeter in three years. Has anyone learned anything in the last 3 years. I know I have. Well, honestly, I have been busy, writing probably a thousand or two new articles, and have now rejoiced at the candidacy of www.DonaldJTrump.Com who if he is elected will finally save this nation from utter ruin.

Right now America is headed rapidly into the trash can of history, and if no major changes are made will will become the slaves of those we have enslaved, as per the Book of Judges, and be thankful to be pulling rickshaws for a bowl of rice before the nation meets its final end.

But Trump, with God's help, can save us from this ignoble degraded and humiliating end. So, Vote and Support "The Donald" and he, with God's guidance, will serve you, your family and America better than anyone imaginable. We have had zero leadership in this Country since Reagan, and we are now at the Eleventh Hour. You got to love and appreciate this site. Now, let's hear it. Amen! FC

 

[Damocles]

who?

 

[Buckly J. Ewer]

FounderChurch is Back due by popular request. Fine. Love you all. I must say, my views have hardly changed a single micro millimeter in three years. Has anyone learned anything in the last 3 years. I know I have. Well, honestly, I have been busy, writing probably a thousand or two new articles, and have now rejoiced at the candidacy of www.DonaldJTrump.Com who if he is elected will finally save this nation from utter ruin.

Right now America is headed rapidly into the trash can of history, and if no major changes are made will will become the slaves of those we have enslaved, as per the Book of Judges, and be thankful to be pulling rickshaws for a bowl of rice before the nation meets its final end.

But Trump, with God's help, can save us from this ignoble degraded and humiliating end. So, Vote and Support "The Donald" and he, with God's guidance, will serve you, your family and America better than anyone imaginable. We have had zero leadership in this Country since Reagan, and we are now at the Eleventh Hour. You got to love and appreciate this site. Now, let's hear it. Amen! FC

TRUMP IS GOD!​

 

[ChoppedLiver]

TRUMP IS GOD!​

A large black anus is YOUR god, BOY.

 

[Buckly J. Ewer]

A large black anus is YOUR god, BOY.

You don't like Trump, Princess?

 

[Buckly J. Ewer]

I think you see in religion what you see in yourself, and that is understandable. As to Allah, or Brahma or whatever, they are all more valid than you are, and smarter too. I respect the beliefs of all Believers as Jesus did. He was not a denomininalist, or a sectist. He WAS God in the flesh. All religions are reaching as best they can toward the one God. Allah simply means God in Arabic Christian Arabic speakers use Allah wherever they mean God. It is a generic term for God. You, like a lot of people, need a bit more education for starters.

So you say...

 

[FounderChurch]

Birth Control Takes Life

The greatest threat to America, Israel, and Democracies generally, is a steeply declining birthrate, so severe that by the end of this century, none of us, or our descendants, will be here, and the world will be left in the hands of dictatorships taking us back to the Dark Ages.

People may be living here in America after we are gone, as they were living here before we came, but WE who created this great nation, which is God’s last best gift to humanity, are finished demographically, and will no longer be here.

Therefore, we will not be needing our Constitution, our Flag, or our Bill or Rights, or even our Bible, for we will not be here. It's all over for us, as it stands now.

Birth Control is also the greatest National Security threat we face. The 911 Terrorists were motivated by the conviction, based on current facts, that America was cursed and doomed by Allah, because of our decreasing numbers, and that they,(the terrorists) were just helping Allah finish us off.

Now, you don't hear much about this, because it is a very unpopular message that people do not take kindly to. Who likes bad news?

Probably, our not liking this truth is based on our knowing we are all guilty of wiping out most, if not all, of our children with various forms, devices, and methods of Birth Control, including the Catholic Rhythm Method, etc, which take the lives of babies just as efficiently as Protestant Condoms. There is no basic difference between Artificial and “Natural” Birth Control. They both produce dead babies.

It is to be hoped that everyone understands that this is something that should be a serious concern to any person who claims they are a Conservative and/or a Believer. This view is based on a lot of research into both the Bible and Secular sources, including the Law, Business and Science. The Bible throughout, extols life, and condemns Birth Control as a major method of killing off God’s People.

All Churches condemned birth control, and considered it murder, for more than 2000 years until 1930 when the Anglican Church at its Lambeth Conference OK'd birth control for the first time in more than 2000 years of Church history.

Thereafter, like greedy sheep, all other denominations including the reluctant Catholics have followed them in one way or another. Today, sadly, essentially NO religious body completely condemns Birth Control.

FRC Family Research Council and Heritage Foundation have produced a video documentary called “Demographic Winter” (check You Tube for a preview) that details a lot of what’s in this post, and Alan Carlson is effective on this as well, but mostly Conservatives and Christians are totally silent on this life and death issue. Out of guilt their own burning guilt and shame, presumably....

"I came to bring Life and Life More Abundantly!"

Under best circumstances it takes 2.2 children to just replace any population. Any group becomes statistically extinct in less than 100 years that reproduces at half of replacement. It's just simple arithmetic. By any measure this is America's last century. It's all over. People will be living here after we're gone but they won't be us, UNLESS WE CHANGE OUR WAYS DRASTICALLY. FounderChurch@Gmail.Com[/B]

 

[Mr.Badguy]

Are vague statements such as "won't be us" supposed to frighten us?

This post hits all the fear mongering notes, "911" terrorism, dictatorships, dark ages, dead babies, constitution, bill of rights, God, etc etc.