He's got the special code though. They always do. Just before ignorant folks who reject learning from history vote them into office and they proceed to turn riches into their own bank account leaving the proles to fight rats for food.
Younger Democrats have soured on capitalism
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lib bad. All Gardner ever says.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
The failure of government run grocery stores. The failure of rent control. The failure of public transit. The failure of relying on police to keep you safe. The failure of... Everything Mandani wants to do in NYC has been tried repeatedly and failed every single time.
This just isn't true.
Young people are now overwhelmingly Republican
According to a new poll, there is a huge split in the political leanings of people under the age of 30.
www.newsweek.com
Overall Youth Turnout Down From 2020 But Strong in Battleground States
MEDFORD/SOMERVILLE, Mass. (Nov. 6, 2024)—Voter turnout among young people ages 18-29 was 42% (with +/- 1% margin of error) overall in the 2024 presidential election, and much higher—50% on aggregate—in key battleground states across the country (GA, MI, NV, NC, PA, WI).
circle.tufts.edu
Here’s the Breakdown of How Young People Actually Voted in 2024
Yes, young men swung for Trump in this election.
Voting patterns in the 2024 election
Voting patterns among many demographic groups in 2024 were similar to those in 2020 and 2016, but Trump made gains among several key groups, a Pew Research Center analysis shows.
www.pewresearch.org
There is overwhelming evidence that Trump has massive support from young people, especially young white men.
Furthermore, there is allot of evidence that the youth people most likely to support Trump are also the youth most motivated and like to register and vote.
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I ignore posts with nothing but links. Say something or be ignored.This just isn't true.
Young people are now overwhelmingly Republican
According to a new poll, there is a huge split in the political leanings of people under the age of 30.
Overall Youth Turnout Down From 2020 But Strong in Battleground States
MEDFORD/SOMERVILLE, Mass. (Nov. 6, 2024)—Voter turnout among young people ages 18-29 was 42% (with +/- 1% margin of error) overall in the 2024 presidential election, and much higher—50% on aggregate—in key battleground states across the country (GA, MI, NV, NC, PA, WI).
Here’s the Breakdown of How Young People Actually Voted in 2024
Yes, young men swung for Trump in this election.www.teenvogue.com
Voting patterns in the 2024 election
Voting patterns among many demographic groups in 2024 were similar to those in 2020 and 2016, but Trump made gains among several key groups, a Pew Research Center analysis shows.
There is overwhelming evidence that Trump has massive support from young people, especially young white men.
Furthermore, there is allot of evidence that the youth people most likely to support Trump are also the youth most motivated and like to register and vote.
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T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
You must be deliriously happy...
Unlike you, I attended college and learned how to make an argument.
Watch out, he'll cuss at you and make you laugh. Angry ignorance is funny ignorance.
AProudLefty
The remora of JPP
Private grocery businesses will continue to run.
"Some cities have also tried opening their own stores, often in underserved or rural areas, though these initiatives have seen mixed success and can be financially challenging."
What failure are you talking about?
No clue what you are talking about.
Can't list any more?
gfm7175
Mega MAGA
Socialist Steps On Another Rake Insisting That 79 Previous Attempts Weren't REAL Stepping On A Rake
LOS ANGELES, CA—Local socialist man Brandon Paul was doing some gardening in his front yard this morning when he had a really good idea: to step on a rake.
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I always think of this article with regard to repeating history via insanity.
cawacko
Well-known member
For the sake of discussion, what kind of principles would this new system need to be sustainable and fair?
BartenderElite
Verified User
No idea. I just know that what we have now is neither fair, nor sustainable.
cawacko
Well-known member
Every system has flaws. "Fair" means different things to different people, so any new systems would still come with trade offs.
BartenderElite
Verified User
Maybe. Not much to base that on, though, since we don't know what lies ahead.
Do you think this is sustainable? The gap between the wealthy & everyone else has been steadily widening for decades, and the wealthy control more & more of the nation's wealth w/ each passing year.
cawacko
Well-known member
Inequality is an issue. The catch is the only systems that bring people close to equal usually do it by making everyone poor, except for the rulers.
The push for equality isn't new. Marxism and socialism promised it too, but the results speak for themselves.
We can look at China which tried what some called a new approach. There wasn't much of a wealth gap for years because everyone was poor. They moved toward state sponsored capitalism and the country is much richer, but their wealth gap is also widening.
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T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
In NYC there really aren't any food deserts so any government grocery store will be in competition with private ones.
To run at least at a break-even cost
To be safe for passengers in many cases
To be time efficient for riders
To not be readily accessible 24/7
That's for starters.
The Left loves gun confiscation and control. The Left is against stand your ground laws and even self-defense. They expect you to call the police and let law enforcement take care of whatever the problem is.
Sure I can...
These are some more of the fails of the Left and Socialism all of which Mamdani proposes to do.
Rent control and rent "freezes"
Public housing (aka "The Projects")
Heavy to excessive taxation of "The Rich" to pay for everything.
"free" public transit
"free" child care
Taking public control of all utilities
BartenderElite
Verified User
Marxism & socialism fail because they run counter to the human spirit.
But capitalism is failing because it creates such inequity & unfairness of outcome.
cawacko
Well-known member
Capitalism definitely creates uneven outcomes but it's also lifted more people out of poverty and created more prosperity than any other system.
Inequality is real, it's also a trade off for a system that rewards innovation. The strength of capitalism is it gives people a chance to rise, even if the outcomes aren't equal.
It’s nice to imagine a system with all the upside of capitalism and less inequality. But once you factor in human nature, that’s probably always going to be just a dream.
AProudLefty
The remora of JPP
"Food deserts in NYC are low-income neighborhoods, such as parts of the Bronx, Harlem, Coney Island, and Queens, where residents lack access to affordable, healthy food and large supermarkets. These areas are characterized by a scarcity of full-service grocery stores and an abundance of bodegas, which often offer unhealthy options. This lack of fresh, affordable food leads to higher rates of diet-related illnesses like obesity and diabetes in these communities."
Again, the private grocery businesses will continue to run. No loss there.
That doesn't answer my question. You said there's history of failures that he will repeat.
What are the examples?
No they don't. They want to address the problem of AR-15s. The right embraces AR-15s and doesn't want to address the problem.
BartenderElite
Verified User
These discussions are always interesting. I don't really disagree w/ what you're saying, and consider myself a capitalist & beneficiary of capitalism.
But my comments are more from a practical level. It's just not sustainable given the trends. It's not a stretch to extrapolate the trends we have seen for decades, and realize that we're heading toward a future where there are a figurative handful of billionaires & trillionaires, and everyone else is paycheck to paycheck or worse.