You do know the REAL reason the left has always supported abortion right?

Spiders are evil! Have you ever been bitten by one?

I got bit by a brown recluse spider several years ago. It was horrible. And yes, I still capture and release spiders. Also, I am not stupid enough to call spiders "evil."


I got bitten by one a few years ago on the back of my ankle. Started out as a "red mark" and in just over a week ate a hole over 2 1/2 inches in diameter and over a 1/4 inch deep. It was so severe, my surgeon was very concerned it might cost me my foot. It took 9 months to heal and I have a ugly scar from it. Catch and release? Like feral cats? I say kill 'em all!

I say you are a fucking asshole. So we both get our say.

So your personal opinion is to (probably) not choose abortion if you were a woman and got pregnant?

Yup.

I think, since it takes two to "make" a pregnancy, why shouldn't the other "contributor" have a say in the matter? If he agrees, then you think it's OK to kill the child? Why do you think that choice should only be determined by the female only?

Because only the female is carrying the pregnancy. Likewise, the female should get no say in whether you get a vasectomy's or not.

Not so much religion, but morality in general.

Horse shit!

Yeah Frank, we know you leftists hate those of us with religious beliefs. There are circumstances abortion may be the only option, birth control should not be one of them.

More horse shit. You are posting like a moron right now. Wake the fuck up.


But hey, maybe you should start printing bumper stickers saying "Spider Lives Matter...More Than The Unborn Child." You could retire from the golf course!

Holy shit. That was so lame, you should be ashamed of yourself.
 
It is my guess that the vast majority of those who hold forth about their 'respect for life' are males who could never bear a baby and who spend much of their time supporting a system that destroys any prospect of a worthwhile life for those they force to be born, and who spend any other time they have spare on buying and propagandising for their murderous bang-bangs. Yours is a most peculiar country!
 
I got bit by a brown recluse spider several years ago. It was horrible. And yes, I still capture and release spiders. Also, I am not stupid enough to call spiders "evil."




I say you are a fucking asshole. So we both get our say.



Yup.



Because only the female is carrying the pregnancy. Likewise, the female should get no say in whether you get a vasectomy's or not.



Horse shit!



More horse shit. You are posting like a moron right now. Wake the fuck up.




Holy shit. That was so lame, you should be ashamed of yourself.

So, I'm an asshole because I was bitten by a spider and hate them for almost causing an amputation?
I guess we'll let it go at that, I'll let you win, Frank.

Talk about horseshit...
 
It is my guess that the vast majority of those who hold forth about their 'respect for life' are males who could never bear a baby and who spend much of their time supporting a system that destroys any prospect of a worthwhile life for those they force to be born, and who spend any other time they have spare on buying and propagandising for their murderous bang-bangs. Yours is a most peculiar country!

Your "guess" is wrong, stupid foreigner.
 
It is my guess that the vast majority of those who hold forth about their 'respect for life' are males who could never bear a baby and who spend much of their time supporting a system that destroys any prospect of a worthwhile life for those they force to be born, and who spend any other time they have spare on buying and propagandising for their murderous bang-bangs. Yours is a most peculiar country!

And you're a raging fucking idiot.
 
I do not even kill spiders in my house. I catch and release them outdoors. My wife understands that I do not intend to do any killing...and sometimes takes matters into her own hands.

I personally would probably never choose abortion...if I were a woman and if I were pregnant.

BUT I THINK A WOMAN SHOULD HAVE A CHOICE IN THE MATTER...and I think that choice should prevail over some asshole like you who wants to make personal choices for others. I understand that assholes like you think you have that right...even that obligation.

I suspect it has something to do with religion.

Fuck your religion...and fuck your refusal to allow women to have a choice.

They had a choice, stop pretending they didn't.
 
It is my opinion that a woman with a pregnancy occurring in her own body should have the right to terminate that pregnancy if she chooses. It further is my opinion that she should be able to do that termination safely...with the assistance of a doctor.

Let me educate yo, she engaged in sex with a man that is how pregnancies happen, pregnancies create life at conception. What has happened is women have been given the right to play god for convenience, while the father whose is equally responsible and equally a part of that child gets no choice based on the biology of how pregnancy works and that is utter B.S the child she kills is not her body!
 
So, I'm an asshole because I was bitten by a spider and hate them for almost causing an amputation?
I guess we'll let it go at that, I'll let you win, Frank.

Talk about horseshit...

I understand it is great for rosebushes.

Ya gotta give it that.
 
You do know the REAL reason the left has always supported abortion right?

Because the leaders of their herd don't like competition from within it...
 
Let me educate yo, she engaged in sex with a man that is how pregnancies happen, pregnancies create life at conception. What has happened is women have been given the right to play god for convenience, while the father whose is equally responsible and equally a part of that child gets no choice based on the biology of how pregnancy works and that is utter B.S the child she kills is not her body!

If a woman has a pregnancy occurring in her own body...she should have the choice about whether to terminate it or not.

Some guy who may or may not have been part of the process of the pregnancy should have a say IF THE WOMAN ASKS FOR A COMMENT OR OPINION...but he should not be able to require her to carry the pregnancy to term.

If some guy rapes a woman and impregnates her...you actually think she should be required to get his permission to abort?

If so...you are a moron.

And if the guy says "Okay with me"...you are okay with the abortion?

Or if the woman does not want to abort and the guy insists on an abortion...you are okay with the abortion?

Get a fucking clue!
 
If it is a "woman's right to choose, and her decision and her decision alone" we need to abolish child support payment by men under most circumstances.
 
If it is a "woman's right to choose, and her decision and her decision alone" we need to abolish child support payment by men under most circumstances.

Well is most assuredly IS a woman's right to choose to terminate a pregnancy occurring in her own body...and hers alone.

How you see that as a reason for terminating child support payments is beyond any rational mind, though.

In any case, good luck with using that argument in a court of law.
 
Well is most assuredly IS a woman's right to choose to terminate a pregnancy occurring in her own body...and hers alone.

How you see that as a reason for terminating child support payments is beyond any rational mind, though.

In any case, good luck with using that argument in a court of law.

It's simple.

The woman doesn't get pregnant by magic--except possibly the virgin Mary I suppose. It takes two, her and some man to procreate. That's how it is. When two people willingly and consensually enter into an exchange it becomes in a legal sense a contract.

So, the two have sex. She gets pregnant.

If it's solely her decision to have or not have the resulting child, then that's the contract both parties agreed to. That shouldn't change once she has the child. The child would be her responsibility from conception to age of majority and hers alone.

Now, if it's the couple's right to choose, the man gets a say too, then they decide between them what the outcome will be. Then child support can be--and should be--part of the contract decided upon.

Right now, women get it both ways in their favor. It's the woman's right to choose up until birth when suddenly (and contrary to all contract law ever) the man is now responsible for paying for the child's upbringing when he had no part in the decision making to have the child or not. That's completely unfair and unequal and needs to be changed.

Or, are you saying you don't give a shit about the man's position in this and that regardless of how one-sided, unfair, and unequal it is he should just shut up and pay?

My argument here is completely consistent and follows well-established contract law. Your version is sort of I want... based on feelings and nothing else.
 
If a woman has a pregnancy occurring in her own body...she should have the choice about whether to terminate it or not.

Some guy who may or may not have been part of the process of the pregnancy should have a say IF THE WOMAN ASKS FOR A COMMENT OR OPINION...but he should not be able to require her to carry the pregnancy to term.

If some guy rapes a woman and impregnates her...you actually think she should be required to get his permission to abort?

If so...you are a moron.

And if the guy says "Okay with me"...you are okay with the abortion?

Or if the woman does not want to abort and the guy insists on an abortion...you are okay with the abortion?

Get a fucking clue!

Biology is she carries it however she is not the only one involved! Ghoul
 
It's simple.

The woman doesn't get pregnant by magic--except possibly the virgin Mary I suppose. It takes two, her and some man to procreate. That's how it is. When two people willingly and consensually enter into an exchange it becomes in a legal sense a contract.

So, the two have sex. She gets pregnant.

If it's solely her decision to have or not have the resulting child, then that's the contract both parties agreed to. That shouldn't change once she has the child. The child would be her responsibility from conception to age of majority and hers alone.

Now, if it's the couple's right to choose, the man gets a say too, then they decide between them what the outcome will be. Then child support can be--and should be--part of the contract decided upon.

Right now, women get it both ways in their favor. It's the woman's right to choose up until birth when suddenly (and contrary to all contract law ever) the man is now responsible for paying for the child's upbringing when he had no part in the decision making to have the child or not. That's completely unfair and unequal and needs to be changed.

Or, are you saying you don't give a shit about the man's position in this and that regardless of how one-sided, unfair, and unequal it is he should just shut up and pay?

My argument here is completely consistent and follows well-established contract law. Your version is sort of I want... based on feelings and nothing else.

One...there is no contract...actual or implied, TA. (Do you see this "contract" in actuality or implied in the case of a rape or incest?)

In any case, I'm not sure if you are just fucking around here...or if you are not very bright.

If a woman terminates her pregnancy...there is no child to support.

If the woman does not terminate her pregnancy and there is a child...then the man IS obligated to support the child.

All the other stuff you wrote there does not even apply.
 
Biology is she carries it however she is not the only one involved! Ghoul

She may not be the only one involved...but she is the only one who should have a say about whether she remains pregnant or not.

How about you, Asshole, do you think a rapist should dictate whether a woman must carry a pregnancy he caused to term?

Do you think the person involved in incest should?
 
She may not be the only one involved...but she is the only one who should have a say about whether she remains pregnant or not.

How about you, Asshole, do you think a rapist should dictate whether a woman must carry a pregnancy he caused to term?

Do you think the person involved in incest should?

Why is she the only one who gets a say? Did she agree in 97% of abortion cases to have sex? Yes she did, and since that baby is equally the mans he should get a say! Rape, incest and medical emergencies account for 3% or less of all abortions! I say you were a mistake, an oops, should i therefore be allowed to kill you!
 
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