You do know the REAL reason the left has always supported abortion right?

Minorities and people living in poverty seem to have a high abortion rate. We conservatives are against abortion, mostly for moral and religious reasons. But I thought we conservatives were against minorities and the poor according to the left??? Yet WE ARE THE ONES fighting for their unborn while the leadership of the left are the ones pushing the idea of killing them. Does this make sense ? No,.... it doesnt. It is just yet another untrue narrative pushed by the left.
 
StoneByStone said:
But would you at least accept that she wasn't trying to kill black people?
I just want to know if the facts matter.
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Facts do matter. I have read some pretty damning statements attributed to Sanger. Having said that it would not change my opinion on abortion one bit. Not one little bit.
 
Stone said:
Facts do matter. I have read some pretty damning statements attributed to Sanger. Having said that it would not change my opinion on abortion one bit. Not one little bit.
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I know, I'm not asking about that.
I'm asking, if the racial accusations about Sanger are debunked, would you accept that? Would you agree that she wasn't trying to kill black people? Or do facts not matter? Will you repeat this talking-point no matter what?
 
StoneByStone said:
I know, I'm not asking about that.
I'm asking, if the racial accusations about Sanger are debunked, would you accept that? Would you agree that she wasn't trying to kill black people? Or do facts not matter? Will you repeat this talking-point no matter what?
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They would have to be ACTUALLY debunked,...not just someone saying they were debunked. I would have to see multiple sources on the subject that had cold hard evidence PROVING BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT with no wiggle room that the statements attributed to Sanger were never said.
 
WHY does the man have zero say so when it comes to the matter of aborting his child ? This is wrong! Man was created by God in the image of God, Woman was created By God FROM Man as a help mate.
 
Stone said:
They would have to be ACTUALLY debunked,...not just someone saying they were debunked. I would have to see multiple sources on the subject that had cold hard evidence PROVING BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT with no wiggle room that the statements attributed to Sanger were never said.
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So what you're asking for here is proof of a negative, which is impossible.

I can prove that there's no evidence that Sanger said the things she's accused of. But can I prove she never said it? Of course not. I also can't prove that Trump doesn't eat babies.

See, the Right WANTS to believe that Sanger was a racist. So they're going to believe that no matter what. That's why you have impossible standards for this.

This is one of the big differences between Left and Right. The Left values facts, the Right values emotion.
 
StoneByStone said:
So what you're asking for here is proof of a negative, which is impossible.

I can prove that there's no evidence that Sanger said the things she's accused of. But can I prove she never said it? Of course not. I also can't prove that Trump doesn't eat babies.

See, the Right WANTS to believe that Sanger was a racist. So they're going to believe that no matter what. That's why you have impossible standards for this.

This is one of the big differences between Left and Right. The Left values facts, the Right values emotion.
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In this case it doesnt matter though. Even if Sanger would not have said those things I would still be pro life. What she said or didnt say literally has no bearing whatsoever on how I feel about the subject.
 
Stone said:
In this case it doesnt matter though. Even if Sanger would not have said those things I would still be pro life. What she said or didnt say literally has no bearing whatsoever on how I feel about the subject.
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But you still bring up the debunked eugenics argument.
 
Granule said:
You're full of shit. Any embryology text book will tell you that life begins at conception.

I'm opposed to murder, and MY choice is to fight murder. THAT is my actual choice. ;)

I'm frenzied about legalized murder and that needs to be fixed.

I'm not happy about abortion no matter which bitch is having it done. It's wrong ALL the time and in every instance.
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Not murder. You believe it to be. However an embryo is no person. https://www.chicagotribune.com/colu...-williamson-homicide-0429-20180427-story.html
 
About 1 in 4 American womn will have an abortion by age 45. They get them through all walks of life and all financial levels.
 
Nordberg said:
It is a woman's decision what to do with her own body. It really is the simple. Nobody is forcing rightys to have abortions, although they do. Catholics have abortions.
You do not end abortion, you drive it underground where is is more expensive and more dangerous.
We had abortion declared illegal many years ago. It was a terrible time. Teens, and adult women went for back alley abortions. They were expensive and dangerous. Desperate women and their escorts were beaten and robbed. Sometimes raped and killed. The procedures themselves were botched and they wound up in ERs and hospitals. Some died and suffered serious damage.
It was a huge topic of conversation. Books and movies were made with it as a theme. It was never about the good ending abortion did, because it didn't.
Stopping legal abortion did not end it, but created larger and more serious problems that infected society.
Girls tried self abortion with bad results. They did serious damage to them selves in a desperate attempt to end it.
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How can it ever be acceptable to murder ?
 
Stone said:
Actually no I did not. Legion brought it up. I simply agreed with him somewhat in a later post.
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By agreeing with him, you're still using it as an argument against abortion.

I think we have a problem with police brutality in America, but I never agree with people who say the cops are racist, because that's just not true.

So again, I ask, does it matter that the eugenics argument has been debunked? Or will Rightists use any argument they want, even when it's wrong?
 
Stone said:
Anyone can estimate pretty closely how many abortions have taken place in the U.S from 1973 to now. Its a TON. With a little digging you can also estimate how many of the unborn would have been born into cradle to grave dependency on the welfare state like their mothers were. Again,....it is A TON. Now you can estimate how many would have made it out of poverty and how many stood a great chance of staying dependent on the welfare state. Again,.... a ton. Truth is,........ if those babies would have been born instead of aborted the welfare state would have crashed and burned a long time ago already and THOSE WHO CREATED IT would have been chased from office and would have lost their power along with it. Simple as that. No welfare state=no power.
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You're an idiot if you think no repugs support abortion and no repug women have abortions.
 
Granule said:
Murder should never be legalized. If women want to make decisions about their own pregnancies then they have the right to not get pregnant.

Also, we do understand that abortions will never end. We're just going to remove the ability to get an abortion legally. In fact, I would even be willing to go one step further and take these selfish bitches to court to try them for murder.
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If men don't want women to make decisions about their own pregnancies then they have the right not to get women pregnant.
 
Wolverine said:
Screw you, she did decide, she laid down with a man, and had sex! No one forced that. It's called being an responsible adult, Stone is absolutely correct you ghoul! No one is forcing you to have zero empathy, but you have zero empathy, you care only about the political. not the person. or persons involved. you are a good little socialist, party first, party only!
Teach young people that sex is enjoyable but only when you are responsibnle enough to handle the consequences of sex and can afford to have children! Sick of you idiots, trying to frame this argument as women's rights, or privacy, especially when the second party involved in the pregnancy get ZERO Rights, If she keeps it the equally responsible male is on the hook to pay, if she decides to kill, it he gets no say, you absolute friggin moron!
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No one was forcing the man to lie down and have sex with anybody, dope. It's a two-person decision.
 
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