Yippy North Korea threatens to sink U.S. aircraft carrier.....War is inevitable and

North Korea could easily level Seoul just using its artillery installations.

not before the artillery was destroyed. People act like artillery is the be all end all of combat. Stalingrad, Manila, Warsaw. There are plenty of cities that took punishment for months, if not years, from artillery and are still running. Some factories of Stalingrad were even producing things.
 
I like that Trump is letting the Generals and Admirals make the decisions on, you know, the little stuff. Like which bombs to drop. That MOAB drop, our first use of it, has to have Lil' Kim shitting his pants. We will never know how many ISIS scum it killed since so many were simply vaporized. LOL
 
I like that Trump is letting the Generals and Admirals make the decisions on, you know, the little stuff. Like which bombs to drop. That MOAB drop, our first use of it, has to have Lil' Kim shitting his pants. We will never know how many ISIS scum it killed since so many were simply vaporized. LOL

The Military was never meant to be "micro-managed" and doesn't function well, when it's been attempted.

 
Bull.
The military was meant to be controlled by civilians, idiot.

Nice try at straw-man, but as usual you FAIL. lol

Both USF and I were talking about tactical decisions, not foreign policy. Key words: "little stuff", "micromanage".
 
Lying by omission is bad, m'kay? When you implied you went to Notre Dame you shouldn't have left out the part about having to wear a hairnet in order to do your job on campus. Oh, and there's no fucking way you're old enough to have gone to college in the 1970's.

Hmmm. Never said I wore a hairnet because I never had a job that required it. Wrong again.

You don't know how old I am, weaseldick. Thus, unable to make that conclusion. Fail.

Quit drinking the bong water, bro'. It's fucking you up.
 
Bull.
The military was meant to be controlled by civilians, idiot.

civilians were supposed to designed when and how it was used not the actual tactics and armaments involved. I mean if that was so then you should just replace all officers with elected representatives.
 
Nice try at straw-man, but as usual you FAIL. lol

Both USF and I were talking about tactical decisions, not foreign policy. Key words: "little stuff", "micromanage".


Civilian control of the military is a doctrine in military and political science that places ultimate responsibility for a country's strategic decision-making in the hands of the civilian political leadership, rather than professional military officers. The reverse situation, where professional military officers control national politics, is called a military dictatorship. A lack of control over the military may result in a state within a state. One author, paraphrasing Samuel P. Huntington's writings in The Soldier and the State, has summarized the civilian control ideal as "the proper subordination of a competent, professional military to the ends of policy as determined by civilian authority".[SUP][1][/SUP]
Civilian control is often seen as a prerequisite feature of a stable liberal democracy. Use of the term in scholarly analyses tends to take place in the context of a democracy governed by elected officials, though the subordination of the military to political control is not unique to these societies. One example is the People's Republic of China. Mao Zedong stated that "Our principle is that the Party commands the gun, and the gun must never be allowed to command the Party," reflecting the primacy of the Communist Party of China (and communist parties in general) as decision-makers in Marxist–Leninist and Maoist theories of democratic centralism.[SUP][2][/SUP]
 
civilians were supposed to designed when and how it was used not the actual tactics and armaments involved. I mean if that was so then you should just replace all officers with elected representatives.
Thanks for again
proving your lack of knowledge of civics, boy.
 
Nice try at straw-man, but as usual you FAIL. lol

Both USF and I were talking about tactical decisions, not foreign policy. Key words: "little stuff", "micromanage".

Exactly.

Civilians control the overall policy/philosophy/broad objectives but they don't tell [or they aren't supposed to] the commanders what kinds of bombs to drop and even when they get dropped.

Trump, as an experienced executive, gets that.
 
Exactly.

Civilians control the overall policy/philosophy/broad objectives but they don't tell [or they aren't supposed to] the commanders what kinds of bombs to drop and even when they get dropped.

Trump, as an experienced executive, gets that.

Really?
Is that why the president alone controls the football?

Fucking retard.
 
Really?
Is that why the president alone controls the football?

Fucking retard.
Rune doesn't understand the difference between tactics and strategy..
Tsuke even used the word tactics, and Run posted about military strategy by civilian control! -still no clue! :awesome:
 
Rune doesn't understand the difference between tactics and strategy..
Tsuke even used the word tactics, and Run posted about military strategy by civilian control! -still no clue! :awesome:
Why does the president alone control the football, cunt?
 
Why does the president alone control the football, cunt?
the short answer is civilian control of the military. He is CIC
Using a nuke on civilian populations is a (crazed but) STRATEGIC decision in a world gone MAD.
 
the types of weapons on the battlefield ( not population centers) would be a tactical decision.
Tactics are generally left up to the commanders in the field
 
I don't think this is going to be FUBAR---I think someone is going to blink first.

I think Trump is trying to get China to budge on NK. I don't think it was a coincidence that Trump Tomahawked Putin/Assad while Xi J was at the dinner table. China has to be wondering how far Trump is going to push NK before China has to step in and say 'wait, ok, we'll do this to try and reign-in the little dictator'.

It's kind of a high stakes deal---but it's Trump playing the dealer.

I don't think China cares much about North Korea. The only use N. Korea has for China is as a minor thorn in the paw of the west but China wouldn't lose much at all if we annihilated N. Korea tomorrow.
 
Hmmm. Never said I wore a hairnet because I never had a job that required it. Wrong again.

You don't know how old I am, weaseldick. Thus, unable to make that conclusion. Fail.

Quit drinking the bong water, bro'. It's fucking you up.

Actually I have a pretty good idea how old you are. Your memory of events which happened prior to 2000 is shaky at best. I think you're 37 at the oldest.
 
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