WV ballots have no President line on them

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Good Luck said:
The reason for keeping the tickets separate (D, R and I) is to keep the primaries separate. One cannot declare as an independent, then go vote for a republican presidential candidate, a democratic senate candidate, an independent house candidate, etc. Each individual is limited to ONE party ticket. Want to vote D, ask for a D ticket. Want to vote R, ask for an R ticket, and get an I ticket if you want to vote I. It is the individual's choice. But since Obama is not running as an I, he is not going to be on the I ticket. Hence the lack of a presidential line, since there are no declared Independents running for President in the primary.
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They are allowed to vote in the R or D primary.

If you put on the Independent ballot all the R and D pres candidates then they can vote for one only.

If they vote for one only they have made the choice of which party ticket to vote in GET IT!

You dont have to supply extra ballots now do you?

its called being smart and saving paper.
 
Desh said:
They are allowed to vote in the R or D primary.

If you put on the Independent ballot all the R and D pres candidates then they can vote for one only.

If they vote for one only they have made the choice of which party ticket to vote in GET IT!

You dont have to supply extra ballots now do you?

its called being smart and saving paper.
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Or you can instruct them on how to vote and expect them to follow those instructions.
 
Dungheap said:
So you have no frame of reference here, Donny. You're like a child who wanders into the middle of a movie...
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and you are like a complete moron who trys to duck the issue of how blatantly wrong you are.

The voters were informed of the procedures by the state. But please, continue with your mindless mumbling... it makes Darla happy to know that someone else is with her on that level of total ignorance.
 
Superfreak said:
and you are like a complete moron who trys to duck the issue of how blatantly wrong you are.

The voters were informed of the procedures by the state. But please, continue with your mindless mumbling... it makes Darla happy to know that someone else is with her on that level of total ignorance.
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Donny was a good bowler, and a good man. He was one of us. He was a man who loved the outdoors... and bowling, and as a surfer he explored the beaches of Southern California, from La Jolla to Leo Carrillo and... up to... Pismo. He died, like so many young men of his generation, he died before his time. In your wisdom, Lord, you took him, as you took so many bright flowering young men at Khe Sanh, at Langdok, at Hill 364. These young men gave their lives. And so would Donny. Donny, who loved bowling. And so, Theodore Donald Karabotsos, in accordance with what we think your dying wishes might well have been, we commit your final mortal remains to the bosom of the Pacific Ocean, which you loved so well. Good night, sweet prince.
 
Dungheap said:
Donny was a good bowler, and a good man. He was one of us. He was a man who loved the outdoors... and bowling, and as a surfer he explored the beaches of Southern California, from La Jolla to Leo Carrillo and... up to... Pismo. He died, like so many young men of his generation, he died before his time. In your wisdom, Lord, you took him, as you took so many bright flowering young men at Khe Sanh, at Langdok, at Hill 364. These young men gave their lives. And so would Donny. Donny, who loved bowling. And so, Theodore Donald Karabotsos, in accordance with what we think your dying wishes might well have been, we commit your final mortal remains to the bosom of the Pacific Ocean, which you loved so well. Good night, sweet prince.
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Do you then bowl him into the ocean?
 
Desh said:
They are allowed to vote in the R or D primary.

If you put on the Independent ballot all the R and D pres candidates then they can vote for one only.

If they vote for one only they have made the choice of which party ticket to vote in GET IT!

You dont have to supply extra ballots now do you?

its called being smart and saving paper.
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The indy ballots would also have independent candidates for congress, the senate, as well as state and local independent primary candidates. Or do you think independent ballots are COMPLETELY blank? Think it through.

If the presidential primary candidates were included, it would allow independents to vote in TWO primaries - independent AND democratic -OR- independent AND Republican. Voting in two primaries is against the law.

However, if an independent voter DOES want to vote in the presidential primary, all they need do is ask for either a democratic or a republican primary ballot. Problem solved for those who want to put in their vote for Obama. (or Clinton _OR_ Paul or McCain)
 
Independent isnt a party its just what it sounds indendent voters.

Even if there is something on the ballot already that does not mean you cant put a pres line on too.

Heres how you could solve it even if it was like you say. When an independent voter walks up the poll worker asks them which ballot they perfer. That way the voter is informed at the momment of voting on their options.
 
Desh said:
Independent isnt a party its just what it sounds indendent voters.

Even if there is something on the ballot already that does not mean you cant put a pres line on too.

Heres how you could solve it even if it was like you say. When an independent voter walks up the poll worker asks them which ballot they perfer. That way the voter is informed at the momment of voting on their options.
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In some states, independent means the voter is not registered under any party name. That is the way it is in MT. Here there is no independent ballot at all. In primaries people who do not have a declared party affiliation are asked which party ballot they want. That is kosher under both MT and federal law because the independent voter MUST make a choice at the polling place.

That is not the case in WV. There there is a registration as independent and candidates who declare as independent get their own primary ballot. While it is not technically a third party, the way WV treats independents makes them functionally a third party. As such, yes it DOES mean they cannot include democratic or republican candidates on the independent ballot.

At the polls a voter is handed the ballot that corresponds to their registration INCLUDING a ballot specifically for independents. According to the way WV treats independent voters, asking which ballot an independent voter wants would be "suggesting" the idea that the voter needs not vote in their declared, registered party. An independent voter could say "oh, I can choose?" and thus the question by the pollster changes the way that individual votes.

Any suggestion at the polling place that may influence ones vote is strictly illegal.
 
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