Would I have stood with MLK?

Government policies do matter. They are important. But ultimately change is going to come from within, not via the government. (And that comment isn't directed just at black people). Take white people, why do certain subsets of white people do better than others? What's emphasized in the community? What's emphasized in the home? Those things matter as much, or more, than government policy.
of course. poverty is largely a matter of circumstance however that breeds the mindset we are unable to change

Throw off the mental restricts -but the circumstances still need to be "changed"
 
After Clinton's welfare reform nearly 28 years ago. Most Blacks aren't sitting around doing nothing & getting TANF.
In fact TANF is almost exclusively given to single mothers & really poor families to prevent homelessness of children.
It's also temporary only 5 years & I believe requires volunteer work.

The truth is post welfare reform nothing changed for Blacks.

The truth is the massive drop in racism didn't change Blacks.

It couldn't possibly be just Democrat policies.

Jamaica has even more out of wedlock births & higher murder rates than even African Americans.

Jamaica has very little if any social programs.

Jamaica makes East Saint Louis look rich.

Clinton didn't have welfare reform. The Republicans in Congress did.

Don't expect blacks to do any better when they support a party that enables them to do worse.
 
where do you get magically? No but it would get rid of the corrupt Democratic big city machine politics
that have been proven beyond a doubt to utterly fail the black community.
That would at least bring in some accountability for city officials

I swear I used to laugh at "plantation mentality" - but there isnt any other way to look at it
since urban blacks (at least in the north) keep voting the same way

I suspect Southern cities are no better with " Blacks"

I was surprised by the much higher criminality in Sarasota vs New York.
I do believe Sarasota is run by Republicans.

Sarasota was worse than Poughkeepsie for crime.

Poughkeepsie around here has a bad reputation.
 
Clinton didn't have welfare reform. The Republicans in Congress did.

Don't expect blacks to do any better when they support a party that enables them to do worse.

Tell me the welfare programs in Africa, Haiti & Jamaica keeping them behind!?

Racial equality is a fantasy.
 
If I may ask, what does standing with #BLM mean to you? Because it’s become a thing (in the Bay Area at least) that (white) people will put #BLM signs in their yard and will post support for #BLM on social media and then do nothing else. And you have black people saying while that’s nice and all it’s easy for you (white people) to do because it changes nothing in your life.

We as individuals can only do so much of course but do you find yourself doing anything different in your life to support #BLM?

To me, BLM means that you stand for the principal that Americans (especially police forces) need to recognize that many Americans have never believed that Black lives are important or deserving of the same respect as White lives. IN San Francisco putting a BLM sign in your yard might not change your life at all, here in suburban Florida it will. I do not have a sign in my yard, but I can tell you a story about what happened in the life of several teachers and a principal who put such a sign up at the school.

Verbal support is nice, and important from white community, but actions are more important and will result in more change. I do several things to support the ideals of BLM, I work on a social justice program at a local public school, I present educational information on how the Civil Rights movement of the 60's changed American law as it relates to public school and another educational piece on how unconscious prejudices and cultural biases of teachers can adversely affect minority students. I go out of my way to ensure that my children have the opportunity to further develop and strengthen their friendships with black friends. My neighborhood has very few black people, my sons best friend is a black kid from two blocks away, that happened naturally. My daughter has lots of white friends in the neighborhood, but several at school, I often make the effort to ensure she gets to spend out of school time with her black friends, that simply involves me providing lots of transportation to their homes that are often far away from our neighborhood.

What I do is not enough, but even having a sign and being public matters. Its not going out on a limb in SF, but most places in America a BLM sign would likely expose you to prejudice from your neighbors and likely the police department.
 
They're already so far behind they didn't need any help.

Leftists & Conservatives need to go back to the drawing board on ( Blacks)

Conservatives blame Socialism & Welfare.
Meanwhile China was in 1973 poorer than Africa.
After decades of China having more Socialist & welfare than Africa the Chinese have propelled way ahead of Africa.

Leftists blame Colonialism & discrimination.

So, why is South Africa colonized the longest in Africa the richest among Africa!?

Why is Liberia & Ethiopia not officially colonized poor by African standards.

As for African Americans why did discrimination probably halve since Civil Rights, but no wealth progress was made in terms of Black American wealth!?
 
Blacks have been voting for Democrats in overwhelming numbers for over 50 years. The government has taken the place of the father as shown by a 75% bastard birth rate. Blacks live in poverty at a percentage 2 1/2 x that of whites. The dropout rate for blacks is higher. And the list goes on. So, continuing to vote Democrat is going to solve those things?

god, you are such a stupid fuck racist. who, besides stupid shit bitches like you, believe the government has taken the place of the father in black homes, you stupid shit bitch?

this is a fairly interesting fact about single mothers in this country-

DEMOGRAPHIC
Around half (49.5%) of single mothers have never married, almost a third (29.9%) are divorced, 20.5% are either separated or widowed. Half have one child, 30% have two. 6 About two thirds are White, one third Black.

https://singlemotherguide.com/single-mother-statistics/
 
In honor of MLK, I wanted to share this quote from Untamed by Glennon Doyle. “I imagined myself to be the kind of white person who would have stood with Dr. King because I respect him now. Close to 90 percent of white Americans approve of Dr. King today. Yet while he was alive and demanding change, only about 30 percent approved of him—the same rate of white Americans who approve of Colin Kaepernick today. So, if I want to know how I’d have felt about Dr. King back then, I can’t ask myself how I feel about him now; instead I have to ask myself: How do I feel about Kaepernick now? If I want to know how I’d have felt about the Freedom Riders back then, I can’t ask myself how I feel about them now; instead, I have to ask myself: How do I feel about Black Lives Matter now? If I want to know how I’d have shown up in the last civil rights era, I have to ask myself: How am I showing up today, in this civil rights era?”

Fucking bullshit, I remember back then very well. There is no way that the totally non-violent times back in the Sixties can be compared to now. You're too young to remember, which is why you feel that you can spout such unadulterated bovine excrement.
 
do you stand with him now?

how about judging people by the content of their character rather than the color of their skin?

I agree with judging people by things other than the color of their skin.

Facing adversity is one thing that can show a persons character, being born a minority in America very often results in adversity so many black people in America have had a better chance to show character than many white people. Trump is orange (by choice) but that factor has nothing to do with what we have seen of his character. When faced with the adversity of facing a consequence of his actions, his lies and abusiveness of others was a particularly telling example of his character.
 
It's a shame that so many blacks and their white enablers go against the words of MLK. He wanted blacks to be judged by the content of their character not their skin color yet programs exist where the latter is used in order to benefit those that have no character. Strange how those that say skin color shouldn't be used have no problem using it to their benefit when character doesn't exist.

You keep getting in your own way- stepping in your own SHIT!

YOU are beyond help- YOU JUST CAN'T HELP YOURSELF BEING A RACIST!

YOU STILL THINK- BECAUSE YOU ARE WHITE- YOU ARE SUPERIOR TO ALL MINORITIES!

Until you scrap that thought- YOU WILL NEVER GROW. YOU WILL JUST REMAIN RETARDED FOREVER- STUCK ON WHITE!
 
Leftists & Conservatives need to go back to the drawing board on ( Blacks)

Conservatives blame Socialism & Welfare.
Meanwhile China was in 1973 poorer than Africa.
After decades of China having more Socialist & welfare than Africa the Chinese have propelled way ahead of Africa.

Leftists blame Colonialism & discrimination.

So, why is South Africa colonized the longest in Africa the richest among Africa!?

Why is Liberia & Ethiopia not officially colonized poor by African standards.

As for African Americans why did discrimination probably halve since Civil Rights, but no wealth progress was made in terms of Black American wealth!?

why are eastern european countries so poor and fucked up? are they just more stupid than other europeans? or could there be other factors at play, outside of stupid fuck racist theories?

While the countries of Eastern Europe and the Former Soviet Union have made significant progress in reducing poverty in the past five years, poverty and vulnerability remain significant problems. More than 60 million are poor and more than 150 million are vulnerable.
https://openknowledge.worldbank.org...es of Eastern,than 150 million are vulnerable.


Poverty and Inequality in Eastern Europe and the CIS ...www.un.org › esa › desa › papers
PDF
According to the Report the national incidence of poverty is close to 20 per cent. The rural population has the highest rates of poverty (30.4 per cent), while the urban population has a poverty rate of 15.7 per cent. The majority of the poor, close to 60 per cent, live in urban areas.
 
I agree with judging people by things other than the color of their skin.

Facing adversity is one thing that can show a persons character, being born a minority in America very often results in adversity so many black people in America have had a better chance to show character than many white people. Trump is orange (by choice) but that factor has nothing to do with what we have seen of his character. When faced with the adversity of facing a consequence of his actions, his lies and abusiveness of others was a particularly telling example of his character.

should there be raced based quotas in school admissions, hiring, and government?
 
good for you.
then dont act like the Civil Rights act of 1964 never happened and supports such nonsense that BLM puts out
like this is a white privledged society, and we are still suffering from slavery.

we are not. and if you buy into it, you are stoopid, as well as making excuses for failure, which MLK would never do

It's always difficult for me to tell if you insane fucking retards are serious about this, or just being edgy for shock value.
 
I agree with judging people by things other than the color of their skin.

Facing adversity is one thing that can show a persons character, being born a minority in America very often results in adversity so many black people in America have had a better chance to show character than many white people. Trump is orange (by choice) but that factor has nothing to do with what we have seen of his character. When faced with the adversity of facing a consequence of his actions, his lies and abusiveness of others was a particularly telling example of his character.

I'm calling BS.
I think I've suffered more discrimination than a lot of Blacks.

Denzel Washington admits it 30 years ago he was discriminated against.

https://www.bostonmagazine.com/arts...9/09/denzel-washington-boston-discrimination/

You want to know how many times I feel discrimination from.people in the past 2 years!?

For my Polish half I was told twice Pokes drink more than Irish.

Told Poles are really dumb it's no joke.

Told on my Irish half that Irish are A holes.

Told twice best that Irish have small wee wee .

I was stared down for about 90 seconds with mean stares by a random Black person.
 
should there be raced based quotas in school admissions, hiring, and government?

The logic is that blacks were kept out of schools, jobs, home buying, and many other societal advantages. Giving them the advantage for a while was a way for them to catch up. It makes sense.
 
You keep getting in your own way- stepping in your own SHIT!

YOU are beyond help- YOU JUST CAN'T HELP YOURSELF BEING A RACIST!

YOU STILL THINK- BECAUSE YOU ARE WHITE- YOU ARE SUPERIOR TO ALL MINORITIES!

Until you scrap that thought- YOU WILL NEVER GROW. YOU WILL JUST REMAIN RETARDED FOREVER- STUCK ON WHITE!

I'm not the one that supports programs where race is a consideration. You do, though, and that is racist.

You don't know what I think. My superiority to you has nothing to do with race. I'm simply superior.
 
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