Women Having To Flee States With Insane Restrictions on Abortions

Walt said:
https://www.economist.com/united-st...ful-maternal-mortality-rate-looks-set-to-rise

We will already have the worst maternal mortality rate in the industrial world. Where a typical country has three mortality out of 100,000 live births, while the USA has a mortality rate of 17 (more than five times higher). States like Alabama, Arkansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi and Tennessee, are becoming illegal, already had mortality rates above 30. They will get much worse.

There are about 3.6 million births per year in the USA. If the mortality rate goes up by 10, there will be 3,600 more women that die. If you think abortion is murder, that might not be a lot of deaths. There might be about 600,000 abortions per year, and anti-abortion laws in some states might reduce the number of abortions by 10%. That would be 60,000 fetuses (or "unborn babies" as the Republicans call them). Maybe 3,600 women dying is worth saving 60,000...

But we should not lie. This is going to kill women.
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The Conservative Southern States are quickly becoming even more third world. Somehow Georgia, North Carolina and Virginia are emerging out of the morass.

Most people with the funds to leave have done so. I just sold my last bid of Alabama.
 
AssHatZombie said:
later stage abortions definitely involve head crushing and dismemberment.
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Less than 1% of all abortions are late term...and only a small percentage of them involve "head crushing." And most of them are performed to save the life of the woman...who definitely is a person.

you're a fucking ignorant fool who prattles on with no facts.
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You, on the other hand, are a fucking ignorant fool who posts things because you have a keyboard at hand.
 
Walt said:
https://www.economist.com/united-st...ful-maternal-mortality-rate-looks-set-to-rise

We will already have the worst maternal mortality rate in the industrial world. Where a typical country has three mortality out of 100,000 live births, while the USA has a mortality rate of 17 (more than five times higher). States like Alabama, Arkansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi and Tennessee, are becoming illegal, already had mortality rates above 30. They will get much worse.

There are about 3.6 million births per year in the USA. If the mortality rate goes up by 10, there will be 3,600 more women that die. If you think abortion is murder, that might not be a lot of deaths. There might be about 600,000 abortions per year, and anti-abortion laws in some states might reduce the number of abortions by 10%. That would be 60,000 fetuses (or "unborn babies" as the Republicans call them). Maybe 3,600 women dying is worth saving 60,000...

But we should not lie. This is going to kill women.
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Total Bullshit!

Rank Country Maternal mortality rate (deaths/100,000 live births)
1 South Sudan 1,150
2 Chad 1,140
3 Sierra Leone 1,120
4 Nigeria 917
5 Central African Republic 829
6 Somalia 829
7 Mauritania 766
8 Guinea-Bissau 667
9 Guyana 667
10 Liberia 661
11 Afghanistan 638
12 Gambia, The 597
13 Guinea 576
14 Mali 562
15 Burundi 548
16 Lesotho 544
17 Cameroon 529
18 Tanzania 524
19 Niger 509
20 Haiti 480
21 Eritrea 480
22 Congo, Democratic Republic of the 473
23 Zimbabwe 458
24 Swaziland 437
25 Ethiopia 401
26 Benin 397
27 Togo 396
28 Congo, Republic of the 378
29 Uganda 375
30 Malawi 349
31 Kenya 342
32 Madagascar 335
33 Burkina Faso 320
34 Senegal 315
35 Ghana 308
36 Equatorial Guinea 301
37 Sudan 295
38 Mozambique 289
39 Comoros 273
40 Gabon 252
41 Burma 250
42 Djibouti 248
43 Rwanda 248
44 Angola 241
45 Zambia 213
46 Nicaragua 198
47 Namibia 195
48 Nepal 186
49 Laos 185
50 Bhutan 183
51 Indonesia 177
52 Bangladesh 173
53 Yemen 164
54 Cambodia 160
55 Bolivia 155
56 India 145
57 Papua New Guinea 145
58 Botswana 144
59 East Timor 142
60 Pakistan 140
61 Sao Tome and Principe 130
62 Venezuela 125
63 Philippines 121
64 Suriname 120
65 South Africa 119
66 Saint Lucia 117
67 Algeria 112
68 Solomon Islands 104
69 Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 98
70 Dominican Republic 95
71 Guatemala 95
72 Kiribati 92
73 Korea, North 89
74 Peru 88
75 Micronesia, Federated States of 88
76 Paraguay 84
77 Colombia 83
78 Jamaica 80
79 Iraq 79
80 Libya 72
81 Vanuatu 72
82 Morocco 70
83 Bahamas, The 70
84 Trinidad and Tobago 67
85 Honduras 65
86 Mauritius 61
87 Kyrgyzstan 60
88 Brazil 60
89 Ecuador 59
90 Cape Verde 58
91 Maldives 53
92 Panama 52
93 Tonga 52
94 Jordan 46
95 El Salvador 46
96 Mongolia 45
97 Vietnam 43
98 Tunisia 43
99 Samoa 43
100 Argentina 39
101 Egypt 37
102 Thailand 37
103 Cuba 36
104 Belize 36
105 Sri Lanka 36
106 Fiji 34
107 Mexico 33
108 Brunei 31
109 Syria 31
110 Uzbekistan 29
111 China 29
112 Malaysia 29
113 Lebanon 29
114 Barbados 27
115 Gaza Strip 27
116 Costa Rica 27
117 West Bank 27
118 Armenia 26
119 Azerbaijan 26
120 Grenada 25
121 Georgia 25
122 Puerto Rico 21
123 Romania 19
124 Oman 19
125 Latvia 19
126 Moldova 19
127 Ukraine 19
128 United States 19
129 Turkey 17
130 Uruguay 17
131 Tajikistan 17
132 Saudi Arabia 17
133 Russia 17
134 Iran 16
135 Albania 15
136 Bahrain 14
137 Chile 13
138 Hungary 12
139 Kuwait 12
140 Serbia 12
141 Korea, South 11
142 Kazakhstan 10
143 Canada 10
144 Bulgaria 10
145 Bosnia and Herzegovina 10
146 Estonia 9
147 Qatar 9
148 New Zealand 9
149 Portugal 8
150 Croatia 8
151 France 8
152 Singapore 8
153 Slovenia 7
154 Turkmenistan 7
155 United Kingdom 7
156 Germany 7
157 Macedonia 7
158 Malta 6
159 Montenegro 6
160 Australia 6
161 Austria 5
162 Belgium 5
163 Ireland 5
164 Luxembourg 5
165 Slovakia 5
166 Lithuania 5
167 Japan 5
168 Netherlands 5
169 Switzerland 5
170 Sweden 4
171 Spain 4
172 Iceland 4
173 Denmark 4
174 Greece 3
175 Czech Republic 3
176 Finland 3
177 Israel 3
178 United Arab Emirates 3
179 Italy 2
180 Norway 2
181 Poland 2
182 Belarus 2
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Most of the above countries allow abortion your facts are hysteria. States have the right to decide abortion rights per the constitution.
 
Walt said:
https://www.economist.com/united-st...ful-maternal-mortality-rate-looks-set-to-rise

We will already have the worst maternal mortality rate in the industrial world. Where a typical country has three mortality out of 100,000 live births, while the USA has a mortality rate of 17 (more than five times higher). States like Alabama, Arkansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi and Tennessee, are becoming illegal, already had mortality rates above 30. They will get much worse.

There are about 3.6 million births per year in the USA. If the mortality rate goes up by 10, there will be 3,600 more women that die. If you think abortion is murder, that might not be a lot of deaths. There might be about 600,000 abortions per year, and anti-abortion laws in some states might reduce the number of abortions by 10%. That would be 60,000 fetuses (or "unborn babies" as the Republicans call them). Maybe 3,600 women dying is worth saving 60,000...

But we should not lie. This is going to kill women.
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You've killed 65 million through abortion. Shut the fuck up
 
Eagle_Eye said:
Total Bullshit!


https://www.indexmundi.com/g/r.aspx?v=2223
Most of the above countries allow abortion your facts are hysteria. States have the right to decide abortion rights per the constitution.
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EE...Walt wrote, "We will already have the worst maternal mortality rate in the industrial world."

I do not see a single country from the Industrialized World in your list that has a higher rate. Am I missing something?
 
Eagle_Eye said:
Total Bullshit!
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You give a list of countries, with all the developed countries having a lower rate than us. It is a national disgrace. We have states with worse rates than Mexico. Overall, we are doing worse than Bulgaria... TWICE AS BAD!!!

Rather than making things better from a bad situation, we are about to make them worse.
 
Walt said:
https://www.economist.com/united-st...ful-maternal-mortality-rate-looks-set-to-rise

We will already have the worst maternal mortality rate in the industrial world. Where a typical country has three mortality out of 100,000 live births, while the USA has a mortality rate of 17 (more than five times higher). States like Alabama, Arkansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi and Tennessee, are becoming illegal, already had mortality rates above 30. They will get much worse.

There are about 3.6 million births per year in the USA. If the mortality rate goes up by 10, there will be 3,600 more women that die. If you think abortion is murder, that might not be a lot of deaths. There might be about 600,000 abortions per year, and anti-abortion laws in some states might reduce the number of abortions by 10%. That would be 60,000 fetuses (or "unborn babies" as the Republicans call them). Maybe 3,600 women dying is worth saving 60,000...

But we should not lie. This is going to kill women.
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Bye ladies.

I'd rather have the states divided anyways. Let the baby killers revel in their killing, together. ;)
 
Walt said:
You give a list of countries, with all the developed countries having a lower rate than us. It is a national disgrace. We have states with worse rates than Mexico. Overall, we are doing worse than Bulgaria... TWICE AS BAD!!!

Rather than making things better from a bad situation, we are about to make them worse.
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I am not anti abortion but I do support the constitution and abortion is covered by states rights if a state wants to allow or ban abortion you have no say in the matter. If a woman wants an abortion nothing stops her from going to a nearby state, and don't give me the lefty the poor will suffer bus fare is relatively inexpensive. In fact less than $50 in most cases.
 
Frank Apisa said:
My point is that you were suggesting he was wrong...when he was not wrong.

Am I missing something?
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Oh he was wrong big time I quote"
There are about 3.6 million births per year in the USA. If the mortality rate goes up by 10, there will be 3,600 more women that die. If you think abortion is murder, that might not be a lot of deaths. There might be about 600,000 abortions per year, and anti-abortion laws in some states might reduce the number of abortions by 10%. That would be 60,000 fetuses (or "unborn babies" as the Republicans call them). Maybe 3,600 women dying is worth saving 60,000...
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We lose less than 20 per 100,000 births the 3600 deaths is a whopper of a lie. Do you oppose states' rights on abortion? If so then you oppose the constitution.
 
Eagle_Eye said:
Oh he was wrong big time I quote"

We lose less than 20 per 100,000 births the 3600 deaths is a whopper of a lie. Do you oppose states' rights on abortion? If so then you oppose the constitution.
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EE...not sure of what in hell you are doing, but you really gotta get a grip.

Walt wrote: "We will already have the worst maternal mortality rate in the industrial world."

You posted that long list in rebuttal to that.

BUT I DO NOT SEE A SINGLE COUNTRY FROM THE INDUSTRIALIZED WORLD ON YOUR LIST WITH A HIGHER RATE THAN OURS.

The list YOU posted shows Walt to be correct.

So how can you claim that you are correct...and he wrong?
 
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