Witnesses in Zimmerman/Martin case change testimonies.

Bijou said:
Which lie would that be? The one you keep talking about but never point out? Duly noted. :)
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We can take one at a time. :)
The one that Zimmerman continued to "persue" Martin, after being told not to by the dispatcher.
It's also been duly noted that I've challanged this presentation before and you obviously have a liberal filter that keeps things from your limited cognitive thought; because it interfers with your desire for vengance.
 
Bijou said:
Where's the lie? Martin's not dead? Proof, please.
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You want me to disprove your assertion that Martin was placed on trial and found guilty, when it's you responsibility to show that when the trial occured.
Who was the defense lawyer, how long were the 12 jurist in deliberation?
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
We can take one at a time. :)
The one that Zimmerman continued to "persue" Martin, after being told not to by the dispatcher.
It's also been duly noted that I've challanged this presentation before and you obviously have a liberal filter that keeps things from your limited cognitive thought; because it interfers with your desire for vengance.
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I already admitted that I cannot find evidence for whether or not he continued to follow after the dispatcher said not to. That said, you cannot prove that he DIDN'T follow Martin after the dispatcher told him not to. The phone conversation Martin had with his girlfriend suggests that Zimmerman continued to follow Martin despite the dispatcher's suggestion.

Zimmerman shot the kid. That much is known. How the courts want to suss it out as to why and how it happened won't change the fact that he did indeed shoot the kid and the kid's dead as a result. A dozen or so years in prison is justice enough for me. I hope he gets at least that much. As of right now, he's a dead man walking while he's free, unless he's hiding in a bunker.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
At least you have the ability to admit that you don't care about justice; because if a member of your family was the one on trail, you would be screaming bloody murder about lies being spread.
Thanks for admitting you're just a hypocrite. :palm:
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Your assertions hinge on a lot of mind-reading on your part. :D
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
What people seem to overlooking; is that the autopsy report will determine Martin's position, at the time of him being shot.

The muscles in the body interact with each other and when the coroner lines up the bullet hole(s), it's going to show a lot of information.
Things like:
Was Martin sitting when he was shot (like on top of someone)
Where were Martin's arms positioned
Was the bullet fired in a forward path, a downward path, or an upward path
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they dont' care.

a lot of evidence already exists that trayvon was beating the shit out of zimmerman.

for many people here, the very mere act of following trayvon, (even if he actually did stop when the dispatcher told him to) gives license for trayvon to start curb stomping zimmerman. there is literally no scenario that the anti-zimmermans will accept for him to be able to use his weapon.
 
KingofOwls said:
they dont' care.

a lot of evidence already exists that trayvon was beating the shit out of zimmerman.

for many people here, the very mere act of following trayvon, (even if he actually did stop when the dispatcher told him to) gives license for trayvon to start curb stomping zimmerman. there is literally no scenario that the anti-zimmermans will accept for him to be able to use his weapon.
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That's correct, because Zimmerman should've allowed the police to handle it. He ignored the dispatcher's advice. The shooting was completely avoidable and all necessary elements - police were advised and were being dispatched to the scene - to avoid it were being implemented. Except that Zimmerman just couldn't leave it alone. Yes, this is all speculative. Had Zimmerman turned around and gone home after calling the cops to the scene, it can be SPECULATED that the shooting would've never happened.

That isn't an 'Anti-Zimmerman' point of view. It's a sound assessment of what probably happened, and what could've been avoided.
 
Bijou said:
That's correct, because Zimmerman should've allowed the police to handle it. He ignored the dispatcher's advice.
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stop. saying. this. you've already admitted yourself you don't have any evidence to back up this assertion.
 
KingofOwls said:
stop. saying. this. you've already admitted yourself you don't have any evidence to back up this assertion.
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You can speculate, and so can I. It is reasonable to SPECULATE that had Zimmerman taken the advice and gone home, the shooting would've never happened.
 
Bijou said:
I already admitted that I cannot find evidence for whether or not he continued to follow after the dispatcher said not to. That said, you cannot prove that he DIDN'T follow Martin after the dispatcher told him not to. The phone conversation Martin had with his girlfriend suggests that Zimmerman continued to follow Martin despite the dispatcher's suggestion.

Zimmerman shot the kid. That much is known. How the courts want to suss it out as to why and how it happened won't change the fact that he did indeed shoot the kid and the kid's dead as a result. A dozen or so years in prison is justice enough for me. I hope he gets at least that much. As of right now, he's a dead man walking while he's free, unless he's hiding in a bunker.
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So after DAYS, if not WEEKS, you suddenly can't find any evidence to support what you've been promoting and it only took 24 minutes of thinking.

Bijou said:
The dispatcher asking Zimmerman not to follow: recorded:D
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Bijou said:
I couldn't find any evidence for this, either. However, Martin's girlfriend claims that Martin was uneasy about being 'followed'.
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So why were you making the claim, regarding what the dispatcher said, in the first place?

As to anyone "proving" that Zimmerman DIDN'T follow the dispatchers suggestion, isn't necessary; because we have a system that assumes the innocence of the person charged, until PROVEN to be guilty.

You just want vengence, so any further debate with you isn't going to change anything.
Have fun presenting your lies. :palm:
 
Bijou said:
That's correct, because Zimmerman should've allowed the police to handle it. He ignored the dispatcher's advice. The shooting was completely avoidable and all necessary elements - police were advised and were being dispatched to the scene - to avoid it were being implemented. Except that Zimmerman just couldn't leave it alone. Yes, this is all speculative. Had Zimmerman turned around and gone home after calling the cops to the scene, it can be SPECULATED that the shooting would've never happened.

That isn't an 'Anti-Zimmerman' point of view. It's a sound assessment of what probably happened, and what could've been avoided.
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i believe that following someone, doesn't give the right for the other person to beat the shit out of you. Following is not a crime. Assault is. Trayvon was likely the first one to commit a crime, given the extent of injuries that zimmerman had.
 
KingofOwls said:
i believe that following someone, doesn't give the right for the other person to beat the shit out of you. Following is not a crime. Assault is. Trayvon was likely the first one to commit a crime, given the extent of injuries that zimmerman had.
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Do you know the definition of assault?
 
Bijou said:
You can speculate, and so can I. It is reasonable to SPECULATE that had Zimmerman taken the advice and gone home, the shooting would've never happened.
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well, tie goes to the defense. in our country one is innocent until proven guilty, and we demand that the burden of proof is on the prosecution. my speculation is more relevant, because the burden of proof is not on me. and it's not on zimmerman. it's on the state.
 
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