Without saying the word Romney, tell me why you Support Obama.

ACA
OBL
INTEREST RATES
Supreme Court
Forign Policy
>Iraq
>Lybia
>Egypt
>Afganistan
The fact that the economy is not worse.

Right....Killing OBL has made such a major difference in the lives of US citizens....
Foreign policy has been so very successful....Iraq, Iran, Lybia, Egypt, Afghanistan....the rioting killing of our Ambassadors..only a bump in the road.....
and the economy....?
Thats like saying "My broken arm is useless and I'm in terrible pain for the last four years, but thankfully its not any worse than the first time I saw this new doctor....
so I'm gonna keep going to see him for four more years and hope the pain doesn't get any worse"
Interest rates ?.....I can't believe a whooping .9% on my life savings....just living off the fat of the land....I hope it climbs to an astounding 1% over the next 4 years.

What planet are you living on ?
 
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Right....Killing OBL has made such a major difference in the lives of US citizens....
Foreign policy has been so very successful....Iraq, Iran, Lybia, Egypt, Afghanistan....the rioting killing of our Ambassadors..only a bump in the road.....
and the economy....?
Thats like saying "My broken arm is useless and I'm in terrible pain for the last four years, but thankfully its not any worse than the first time I saw this new doctor....
so I'm gonna keep going to see him for four more years and hope the pain doesn't get any worse"

What planet are you living on ?


OBL being dead helps me sleep at night, one because justice was served, two because he was a major factor in Al QUeda's ability to hurt me.

I dont believe the President is responsable for the fact that the people we were fighting in Lybia killing our ambassador, in fact it proves that taking down the Quadaffy regime (without losing one American life) was the correct thing to do.

I live on Earth.
 
Why? What's the point? I can list a laundry list of items. His supporters will agree and the opponents will ridicule anything said about the mans positive accomplishments.

The main reason I'm voting for Obama is a took a solemn oath before God to support whichever President who took out Bin Ladin for re-election.

But it's not hard to justify voting for Obama considering how far to the right and extreme the Republicans have become. Besides, it's also a moot point. How can Republican build a competent ruling coalition of a hand full of plutocrats and a whole bunch of poorly educated angry white rednecks? Dems have their own weak points but at least their not the ignorant fuckups that Republicans are.

The fact is, neither party is trustworthy because we've allowed our primary system to create a situation that only those on the extremes can get elected. Is the solution a third party? Naaa, Libertarians have a platform that's a self fullfilling prophecy for inept government. Chaos light.

No, what we need to do is reform our closed primary system into an open runoff primary system where the primary candidates who get the most votes compete in a runoff election for office. That way sane, competent and reasonable peole can get elected to public office.

It's bad, getting worse, and still getting worse, etc. Ad nausium, but thank God the libertarians aren't in office to fuck everything up!!
 
OBL being dead helps me sleep at night, one because justice was served, two because he was a major factor in Al QUeda's ability to hurt me.

I dont believe the President is responsable for the fact that the people we were fighting in Lybia killing our ambassador, in fact it proves that taking down the Quadaffy regime (without losing one American life) was the correct thing to do.

I live on Earth.


Yeah...AQ is sure under control and almost invisible....expecially in the last 2 or 3 weeks....just about impotent now...
So glad you sleep better now that OBL won't show up under your bed or whatever the hell you imagined about him.....I happen to sleep better every time some scum gets the needle and justice is served.....
Of course Obama isn't responsible ....for anything....ever....it was probably Bush's fault....we'll just apologize to the murderers and hope it all goes away...
And the people killing our Ambassador in Lybia 'proves that removing Gaddafi was the correct thing to do' ?....sorry, that kind of logic defies common sense...

If you're really on this planet, try coming out from under that rock and take a good look around, a real good look.
 
the Navy Seals for President!!!.....

So you think the president is a Navy S.E.A.L.?



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Even if we use unemployment as a metric, the economy is worse. Unemployment was 7.8% when Obama took office. It is now 8.3%, not including the people that have given up looking for a job.

Not sure what planet you live on, Jarod, but there's a dose of reality.
And I will ask you what I asked Damo. Keep in mind I am not supporting Obama. What specific policy or policies did this administration enact that drove the unemployment rate up. Historically, we credit the administration that came before for the economy for the next year after the new administration took over. Do you believe that in March 2009 the unemployment rate was on its way down and Obama did something specific to drive it back up again? If so What?
 
the Navy Seals for President!!!.....
Agreed, but your point is utter bullshit. ONLY the CIC could have given the order to invade the sovereign airspace of a country that we were not at war with, to take out someone that the prior president REFUSED to go after. Only one other person in his administration agreed, every other person said not to do it. IF it had failed you and all the other righties would STILL BE BLAMING the president. You and all your ilk are the most intellectually dishonest people on this issue. If he would have gotten the blame for the failure (See Carter Iran Hostage rescue failure 1980) then he gets the credit for stepping up, taking the chance and ordering the mission.
 
And I will ask you what I asked Damo. Keep in mind I am not supporting Obama. What specific policy or policies did this administration enact that drove the unemployment rate up. Historically, we credit the administration that came before for the economy for the next year after the new administration took over. Do you believe that in March 2009 the unemployment rate was on its way down and Obama did something specific to drive it back up again? If so What?


I get a weekly e-mail from economist John Mauldin who I'm a big fan of. Here is a small portion below which lays out the economic results which come from the overregulation by the Obama Administation and I would argue the lack of leadership.


We Live in Uncertain Times

The Wall Street Journal op-ed I mentioned (which we will look at in greater depth in a minute) noted:

"In 2010, the number of Federal Register pages devoted to proposed new rules broke its previous all-time record for the second consecutive year. It's up by 25% compared to 2008. These regulations alone will impose large costs and create heightened uncertainty for business and especially small business."

A recent survey by the National Federation of Independent Business shows that small-business concern over government regulation has risen to match the level of concern about taxes and poor sales.



Uncertainty is clearly a contributing factor to the economic malaise we are in.

"Policy uncertainty is another beast altogether. Two recent studies offer hard evidence to back the intuition that confusion about what Uncle Sam is going to do has dampened the recovery, leading to subpar job creation. Stanford University economists Scott Baker andNicholas Bloom joined the University of Chicago's Steven Davis in using a variety of measures, such as news stories and the number of federal tax code provisions set to expire, to construct an index of policy uncertainty levels. The results show entrepreneurs have more doubts today about where policy is headed than they did just a few years ago.

"The economists estimated the rise in uncertainty from 2006 to 2011 resulted in a 16 percent plummet in private-sector investment and an employment drop of 2.3 million jobs. Their findings are consistent with earlier studies, such as the one by Harvard's Dani Rodrik, which showed uncertainty acts like a tax on investment. In fact, the literature on the depressing effects of uncertainty is vast. No less an authority than now-Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke argued as far back as 1983 that higher uncertainty encourages firms to postpone high-expense investment.

"In a just-released study, San Francisco Federal Reserve economists Sylvan Luc and Zheng Liu offer more hard evidence of uncertainty's depressing effect. When people don't know what government will do next, they're less willing to invest and spend. They found higher uncertainty levels during the Great Recession increased the unemployment rate by 1 to 2 percent. That is, if uncertainty levels had remained stable, they say, 'the unemployment rate would be closer to 6 or 7 percent rather than to the 8 or 9 percent it actually registered.' Each percentage point difference means 1.5 million wind up in the unemployment lines." (Nita Ghei for The Washington Times, athttp://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/sep/21/uncertainty-and-unemployment/)

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-unintended-consequences-of-qe-infinity-2012-9
 
Do you believe that in March 2009 the unemployment rate was on its way down and Obama did something specific to drive it back up again? If so What?

straightforward response......the ACA makes it more expensive for employers to provide health care for its employees and requires them to provide it and dictates what the employer's percentage of contribution must be.....however, the actual cost of doing so is unknown until at least 2013 when the law takes effect.......now, suppose you are a company owner.......do you expand your business now without knowing what your costs are going to be next year?.......
 
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