Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker leads latest recall election poll

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Derp Derp said:
Rassmusin and Newsmax. RCP has the polling at 3% in Walkers favor.
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Why is Rasmussen unreliable? Because they only include likely voters - not dead people and felons? Well, that is an excellent point. It is highly possible that the margin of victory will be less than 5%, but thankfully, the union slugs won't be able to cheat enough for him to be defeated.

Also, Newsmax didn't take the poll, hence they are not the "source." The poll was conducted by We Ask America. But just out of curiosity, do you trust polls taken by CNN? Do you consider that to be a reliable source?
 
Derp Derp said:
You've cited to unrealiable sources. Rassmusin and Newsmax. RCP has the polling at 3% in Walkers favor.
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LMAO... also Mutt... how did RCP get to the 3% number you quote?

Oh yeah, they included the poll results from Rasmussen, We Ask America, Marquette and PPP.

so why would you quote a number that included two polls that you proclaim are unreliable? Why Mutt? Why?
 
Superfreak said:
LMAO... also Mutt... how did RCP get to the 3% number you quote?

Oh yeah, they included the poll results from Rasmussen, We Ask America, Marquette and PPP.

so why would you quote a number that included two polls that you proclaim are unreliable? Why Mutt? Why?
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LOL

Poor Mutt.
 
KingOfGods said:
Why is Rasmussen unreliable? Because they only include likely voters - not dead people and felons? Well, that is an excellent point. It is highly possible that the margin of victory will be less than 5%, but thankfully, the union slugs won't be able to cheat enough for him to be defeated.

Also, Newsmax didn't take the poll, hence they are not the "source." The poll was conducted by We Ask America. But just out of curiosity, do you trust polls taken by CNN? Do you consider that to be a reliable source?
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Institutional bias. No one takes Rasmussen seriously and Newsmax is just a right wing propaganda organ no unlike the Daily KOS.
 
Superfreak said:
LMAO... also Mutt... how did RCP get to the 3% number you quote?

Oh yeah, they included the poll results from Rasmussen, We Ask America, Marquette and PPP.

so why would you quote a number that included two polls that you proclaim are unreliable? Why Mutt? Why?
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Yes Tinkerbell and that would bias the RCP polling to but since it is an average it would still be more accurate then the right leaning Rasmussen.
 
Derp Derp said:
Yes Tinkerbell and that would bias the RCP polling to but since it is an average it would still be more accurate then the right leaning Rasmussen.
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Poor Mutt, if you quote a number based on unreliable data, that number is just as unreliable. What you should have done is cherry picked your self proclaimed approved pollsters and then averaged them instead. But you didn't do that, because you are an inbred mouthbreather from Ohio with a fondness for sheep.
 
Darla said:
Is Sf really arguing that if one of the data points computing an average is wrong it doesn't matter?

Hilarious.
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No, I am stating that Mutt's proclamation that two of the five data points are unreliable only to quote the average using those same unreliable points rather than simply calculating the average based on the 'reliable' sources (ie... the ones that show what Mutt wants them to show) is comical.
 
as I recall Mott also predicted that Walker would never sign the legislation to limit union bargaining, after predicting it would never pass, after predicting that the Democrats in Wisconsin would never let it go to a vote.......
 
The majority of polls show Walker once against beating Barrett, with a recent Public Policy Polling poll showing Walker garnering 50 percent of the vote to Barrett’s 45 percent.

This 5 percent margin was unchanged since PPP last polled Wisconsin voters in April, showing that the May 8 Democratic primary did nothing to help boost Barrett’s chances at beating Walker in June.

However, Barrett’s failure to catch steam might be at the fault of the Democratic National Committee (DNC). In an exclusive report by the Washington Post, top Wisconsin Democrats are furious at the DNC for not helping to fund Barrett’s gubernatorial bid against Walker. “We are frustrated by the lack of support from the Democratic National Committee and the Democratic Governors Association,” a top Wisconsin Democratic Party official told the Washington Post. “Scott Walker has the full support and backing of the Republican Party and all its tentacles. We are not getting similar support.”

On top of that, the far-left group, MoveON.org, blasted the DNC in an email this week saying “The Democratic National Committee isn't investing in the massive get out the vote effort in Wisconsin to recall Scott Walker....Wisconsin is ground zero for Democrats this summer....the DNC’s lack of support has left a huge hole”.

The Wisconsin Democratic Party has reportedly asked the DNC for a lump sum of $500,000 to help recall Walker. While the DNC has vocally supported the recall effort, their financial contributions to Wisconsin tell a different story.

The Republican National Committee (RNC) on the other hand is spending top-dollar to help squash the recall efforts by the Democrats.
It is curious to see as to why the DNC isn’t helping in the efforts to recall Walker. Not only is Wisconsin the battleground for big labor to be squashed, but it is also a key swing-state that Obama could very well lose in November.

Walker is leading in all the polls by at least a five-point margin and the Democrats are looking the other way. Either they have some kind of yet to be unveiled master plan to defeat Walker, or they’ve simply given up so soon.


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Its all over for the unions.
 
Funny, how the right wing is importing MILLIONS for Walker to beat out this recall....being that if he had to rely solely on local resources, it would be a guarantee that he'd get the boot.

And in typical fashion, the DNC are shooting themselves in the foot by NOT helping out the locals in their campaign. Coupled with Walker's actions to stymie new voter registration, and this one might be a win for the GOP.

But before the neocons and teabaggers all dance with glee, let's have a reality check as to just what old Scotty has actually done for Wisconsin:

Partial Truth: “We wiped out a $3.6 billion deficit.” — Walker in a campaign ad.
What’s Left Out: That’s true if you use the cash accounting method. However, using Generally Accepted Accounting Principles (GAAP) accrual accounting methods, there is a $3 billion deficit in Wisconsin’s budget in each of the next two years. While it’s perfectly legitimate for Walker to cite the cash accounting figure, that may confuse some folks who may remember that Walker used the GAAP figures to argue for cuts in state health programs.

Partial Truth: Walker says he balanced the budget “without raising taxes.” — Walker in a campaign ad.
What’s Left Out: Walker did reduce taxes overall, but his budget included reductions to two tax credits. Walker does not consider those tax increases, but the state’s nonpartisan Legislative Fiscal Bureau does.

http://factcheck.org/2012/04/the-whole-truth-in-wisconsin-air-wars/
 
Taichiliberal said:
Funny, how the right wing is importing MILLIONS for Walker to beat out this recall....being that if he had to rely solely on local resources, it would be a guarantee that he'd get the boot.

And in typical fashion, the DNC are shooting themselves in the foot by NOT helping out the locals in their campaign. Coupled with Walker's actions to stymie new voter registration, and this one might be a win for the GOP.

But before the neocons and teabaggers all dance with glee, let's have a reality check as to just what old Scotty has actually done for Wisconsin:

Partial Truth: “We wiped out a $3.6 billion deficit.” — Walker in a campaign ad.
What’s Left Out: That’s true if you use the cash accounting method. However, using Generally Accepted Accounting Principles (GAAP) accrual accounting methods, there is a $3 billion deficit in Wisconsin’s budget in each of the next two years. While it’s perfectly legitimate for Walker to cite the cash accounting figure, that may confuse some folks who may remember that Walker used the GAAP figures to argue for cuts in state health programs.

Partial Truth: Walker says he balanced the budget “without raising taxes.” — Walker in a campaign ad.
What’s Left Out: Walker did reduce taxes overall, but his budget included reductions to two tax credits. Walker does not consider those tax increases, but the state’s nonpartisan Legislative Fiscal Bureau does.

http://factcheck.org/2012/04/the-whole-truth-in-wisconsin-air-wars/
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I just do not get this, why the DNC isn't helping.
 
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Rana said:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Funny, how the right wing is importing MILLIONS for Walker to beat out this recall....being that if he had to rely solely on local resources, it would be a guarantee that he'd get the boot.

And in typical fashion, the DNC are shooting themselves in the foot by NOT helping out the locals in their campaign. Coupled with Walker's actions to stymie new voter registration, and this one might be a win for the GOP.

But before the neocons and teabaggers all dance with glee, let's have a reality check as to just what old Scotty has actually done for Wisconsin:

Partial Truth: “We wiped out a $3.6 billion deficit.” — Walker in a campaign ad.
What’s Left Out: That’s true if you use the cash accounting method. However, using Generally Accepted Accounting Principles (GAAP) accrual accounting methods, there is a $3 billion deficit in Wisconsin’s budget in each of the next two years. While it’s perfectly legitimate for Walker to cite the cash accounting figure, that may confuse some folks who may remember that Walker used the GAAP figures to argue for cuts in state health programs.

Partial Truth: Walker says he balanced the budget “without raising taxes.” — Walker in a campaign ad.
What’s Left Out: Walker did reduce taxes overall, but his budget included reductions to two tax credits. Walker does not consider those tax increases, but the state’s nonpartisan Legislative Fiscal Bureau does.

http://factcheck.org/2012/04/the-who...nsin-air-wars/
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I just do not get this, why the DNC isn't helping.
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Well, supposedly help is on the way now:


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...all-criticism/2012/05/17/gIQABcstWU_blog.html
 
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